Learning scantling part 1: general arrangement. Naval Architects please help

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by magwas, Dec 26, 2009.

  1. GTO
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    GTO Senior Member

    Since I'm considered a software engineer, and have 17 years or so of software experience, I can no longer ignore the IT guy's postings. :p

    Your childish belief that boat design is a relatively easy thing to do shows how little you actually know about boats.

    Boat design requires a great deal of knowledge from several fields of math, science, and engineering - even art.

    With your initial drawings, you have demonstrated that you have NO idea about what even constitutes a proper boat, must less the basic understanding necessary for a worth while exchange of information.

    Go out and BUY (yes buy, as in pay someone for their efforts so they can pay for the things their family needs/wants) a couple of books; one about boat design and building in a general sense, and one that has at least some of the math in it necessary for boat design. Study both of them carefully.

    Then you MIGHT begin to realize just how difficult it is to design a boat and how much time and effort you are asking people to expend in support of YOUR desire to design a boat.

    You can't create an abstract boat with all the numbers. Boats aren't like that. Boats are not software. They are built for a purpose, or an amalgamation of purposes, that result in just that design. Change anything and you most likely will come up with a different design.

    GO LEARN SOMETHING. Ignorance can be bliss, but it also pisses off those that know better.

    Oh, when is the damn network going to be back up???? :p
     
  2. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Children are simple enough to ask what they do´nt know.

    Professionals are honest enough to ask what they do´nt know.

    Amateurs are not sure to ask what they do´nt know.

    Idiots know everything.

    And some people know how to ask idiots long and deep enough, to ask the professionals to solve their problems.

    The world should be ruled by children, they would eliminate parasites in a instant manner.

    my 2 cent

    Regards
    Richard
     
  3. capt vimes
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    capt vimes Senior Member

    ... because they have no clue what they do not know... ;)
     

  4. timothy22
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    timothy22 Junior Member

    I highly recommend Skene's "Elements of Yacht Design"

    http://www.macnaughtongroup.com/skenes_elements_of_yacht_design.htm


    http://books.google.com/books?id=rZbNvEWHbUoC&dq=skene's+elements+of+yacht+design&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=MMZj0rnj7p&sig=ROHamSAWNVhv1Aq0rl6GvX8
    DUgw&hl=en&ei=qONFS6XhHoWXtge_4PnyAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=skene's%20elements%20of%20yacht%20
    design&f=false

    http://www.amazon.com/Skenes-Elements-Yacht-Design-Eighth/dp/0396079687

    Here you will find a step by step guide to developing all the plans, drawings, calculations, scantlings, etc. to make a successful small yacht.
    Note that the scantling rules are several decades old-still good, but may not satisfy ISO requirements.


    Also Chappelle's "Yacht Designing and Planning"
    http://books.google.com/books?id=qc...resnum=3&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=&f=false

    http://www.amazon.com/Yacht-Designing-Planning-Yachtsmen-Students/dp/0393037568

    These are the classic beginners' texts for introducing the student to the concepts and definitions and to the process of developing the
    "boat sense" necessary to make most of the judgements and compromises that make a successful yacht design.
     
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