Keeping a Mini Cooper on my catamaran

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by JonathanCole, Jun 22, 2005.

  1. JonathanCole
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    A 16 meter by 6 meter power catamaran for traveling inland waterways would be very nice if a small car could be carried and off-loaded in a variety of situations. Any ideas or experiences on how to accomplish this? Maybe there are even lighter vehicles that could be used. The key is a practical method of loading and offloading the vehicle as well as stowing it aboard.
     

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  2. yokebutt
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    Jonathan,

    Just stick a handle on top of the mini and hand-carry it.

    Yoke.
     
  3. JonathanCole
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    Why didn't I think of that?
     
  4. Michael Chudy
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    I hear Folding Bycicles work really well... on a 16 Meter you could probably even use one that doesn't fold. Seriously, I'm not familiar with the weight a cat of this size could handle. What's going to happen to the trim and PPI? Not to mention the insurance ramifications of storing your car on a boat?
     
  5. JonathanCole
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    Well let's assume

    • the car weighs a ton or less.
    • it will on the aft deck.
    • it will have greater bouyancy aft to compensate for the weight.
    • it will have sufficient ballast balance for reasonable CG
    • it will have weather protection and be firmly secured to the deck
    • It will probably not have water damage insurance.
     
  6. Skippy
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    Two thoughts: First, a short flip-up ramp that doubles as part of the coaming. Second, trucks (lorries) often have a longer plank that slides underneath the bed (deck). The flip-up can span the step between deck and plank.
     
  7. MarkC
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    Why dont you start with a motor-scooter first? Not a 50cc nifty-shifty one (although they may be easiest and cheapest to register) but a good 150 or 200cc. Honda or Vespa. There are some funky hondas being sold now. Put a back-rack on to hold the groceries.

    also - the Smart is much smaller than the mini and the Smart has amazing room inside.

    I would try a scooter first.
     
  8. yipster
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    i've been doodling for transport. inland freightships often have a crane and car on deck but it aint so easy doing that on a pleasure boat. there is a need for transport once in a new marina though. i had a small scooter like the one above till the law was chanced and only type aproved are legal now :mad:
     
  9. jdray
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    Maybe get yourself one of these:
     

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  10. JonathanCole
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    Yipster,

    How can I found out what kind of vehicles are approved in the EU for transport on pleasure vessels?
     
  11. JonathanCole
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    I like the idea of sliding lightweight (aluminum/composite?) ramps underneath the deck. If they slide out and then pivot on the boat end, they could accomodate various height differentials between boat and shore/pier. This would also allow for variable length ramps which could possibly be telescoping. Perhaps they could be pulled out of their storage by an electric winch thru a pulley on shore. Although it would really be convenient if they extended out at the push of a button , with controllable angle of elevation. That might be accomplished by a set of rollers under the ramps which could hydraulically or manually be adjusted for height. Then you could back into the pier and with a one man operation prepare the ramps for offloading the vehicle.
     
  12. yago
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    what European inland waterways are you targeting with a 16 by 6 m cat...? ;)

    Gerd
     
  13. yipster
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    beats me, another new law? i meant legal roadworthy for insurance etc. DMV in holland is called RDW but if that is EU law? my 1 pers lightweight fold up was fast and handy, could carry a krate full of groceries between the legs, its not the small car you want though...
     
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  15. JonathanCole
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    Hey if this little boat can carry a 3 ton SUV, my 50 foot catamaran should be able to handle a Mini or a Smart car. Thanks for the encouragement Thunderhead.
     

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