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Old 10-20-2011, 01:53 AM
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If you had $100,000 USD to spend on a diesel, reliable, seaworthy ship

On a ship, what would you get? Specifically a diesel, reliable, seaworthy ship... Do these three terms go together on such a budget?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/One-K...c99871da#v4-35

Is something such as this capable of getting from Miami to South East Asia(and maybe then down to New Zealand) under its own power? If so, would it require a larger fuel capacity, is island hopping feasible?

p.s Recommended reading on such subjects?

p.p.s Sorry if I'm in the wrong forum...
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:32 AM
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It might be possible to get this to Asia on its own power, but it would be tricky. It only has a 300 mile max range at cruise, so it would require stoping every day for fuel, or adding large external fuel bladders to add enough range.

I don't know anything about the design, but to me the max range would be a killer for long trips. Generally I would say 100k is on the light end for a boat this size contemplating such a trip, particularly if you include the trip costs in the calculations. Figure $10/mile you want to travel in fuel, add water costs, food, first mate, ect. 100k might not even pay for the delivery fuel from Florida to Asia.
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:59 AM
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Nice boat. Regardless of fuel range any vessel crossing oceans need to be fit out specifically for the voyage and its equipment needs to be in first class order. This could easily cost an additional 100 thousand.

A better way to cruise SE Asia would be to purchase a vessel currently on station in the region. These vessels many times are on discount because they are so far from the main market for yachts. With an on station vessel Money that must be spent on refit can be directed at systems like tenders, watermakers, generators, battery banks..... that make cruising enjoyable
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:47 AM
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I would say the approach is not correct.

For a boat, you have several prices :

The initial price : what you quotes, but you will pay it only once.

The fixed ownership price : what you will pay yearly, whether you use the boat, or not. (typically insurance, docking etc ..)

The variable ownership price : what you will pay varying with usage ( typically fuel ...)

And what I call unexpected price for used things. For this very boat, one engine has been rebuilt. The other not. It is not too foolish to expect the second engine will need a rebuilt one day or other.
It may not need it. But the engine may also fail at the worst time, with a total price of failure recovery well above a planned engine rebuild. It is just a bet, and I suggest you consider you could lose it.
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:08 PM
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Fcfc,

Certainly at 2k hours a rebuild on that engine is a consideration, but total failure not so much. In 30 years of boating the only engine I have ever had that was a total loss was the one I dropped of the boat and couldn't recover.
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:21 PM
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With the fuel capacity, the boat will run maybe thirteen hours at top speed. 240HP will use about 20 gallons per hour. That will give you about 20 hours at cruising speed; say 12-15 kt. In ideal conditions, you will have to stop every 250-300 miles to refuel. Huge openings, lack of sea berths, and rather high superstructure indicate a vessel designed for protected waters or near costal use.
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Old 10-20-2011, 08:01 PM
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300 gallons fuel capacity (150 gal on each side going to small daytank)

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gonzo: With the fuel capacity, the boat will run maybe thirteen hours at top speed.
The term "daytank" is a bit of a misnomer; seems like the main tanks barely qualify as a day tank.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:14 PM
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I wouldn't want to be blue water with that thing.
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Old 10-22-2011, 04:40 AM
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For 2K you can get 50 meters long cargo ship, make a lot of money and travel around a world without much pain about fuel and other staff.
http://www.sailing-ships.net/?boat=2...-24%2008:12:58
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:38 PM
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Having sailed from China to Korea-Japan-Shanghai-Hong Kong-Vietnam-Thailand-Singapore-Indonesia (Bali) I can tell you that in December waves in the S China Sea can get up to 12 ft. (more if there is a typhoon)More rain than I ever saw in my life. The ports and open ocean are to busy and not
like most ports as they have lanes to say in and too many ships, junks and tugs. Too many is not the amount either. Thousands!and they all ignore you. We saw a near collicion between apassenger ship and a tug that decided to cut in front of him. People were very rude including most fo the customs inspectors. They were just waiting for anything to be "Wrong" including dirt on the cabin sole. Take a cruise or buy a locally flagged boat.
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Old 10-28-2011, 11:49 PM
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It might be possible to get this to Asia on its own power, but it would be tricky. It only has a 300 mile max range at cruise, so it would require stoping every day for fuel, or adding large external fuel bladders to add enough range.
Wrong. With 300 gallons fuel, range is more like 900 nautical miles (at about 6 knots it will run 2 gallons/hour. That's 150 hours. The figure quoted as "cruise" speed at 4 gallons/hour is pretty close to top speed, and an absurd quote as cruise speed.
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:15 PM
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A good sail boat would be more seaworthy and much less fuel needy. While the boat you are interested in might get you there your margin of success is greater with the sailing option.
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Old 10-29-2011, 07:56 PM
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The ocean no more ?

I heard the oceans have hundreds of square mile of floating wreckage & garbage floating around the Pacific. Hit a submerged cargo container box just at the surface. You are in deep POO.

We have managed to screw up the oceans. A couple of big container ships go down each year. The cargo on deck comes up as a hazard.

& are you seaworthy enough to survive those Rouge Waves that pop up anywhere & anytime.

My St. Lawrence River is all I can handle.
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Old 10-30-2011, 04:36 PM
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Look into some of the yacht transport companies like dockwise yacht transport. Great way for a small medium vessel to travel trans ocean.
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Something like this might be better?

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42' Kadey Krogen 42 Pilothouse Trawler Yacht
The Perkins 135-hp Turbocharged NA FWC diesel engine is a newer model, runs great, has wet exhaust out stern, and has around 2000 hours usage. With her 710 gallon fuel capacity, cruising at 6 knots she has approximately a 5,000 mile range in between fuel stops!

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982.../United-States
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