ice class containership

[jacckko]

hi guys!!!
anyone of you have a project or design of a iceclass containership??

[JRMacGregor]

What size of ship are you looking for ?

These are a bit small, but if they are in your size range you may wish to check them out.................

132 TEU on multi purpose coaster, 82.5m loa
FLINTHORN, built 1999 by Bodewes Volharding, Netherlands
GL ice class E3

572 TEU, 113m LOA
MARY ARCTICA, container ship for Greenland
Built 2005, Remontowa, Poland
DnV ICE 1A

648 TEU, 169m LOA
Norilskiy Nickel
Double acting Arctic type, built by Aker Finnyards, 2006
Russian ice class

205m LOA, combination container and ro-ro
TIMCA
Built Poland, 2006
Finnish and LR ice class

[jacckko]

I would like to design a 5000 TEU ice classed container vessel capable of transiting the Arctic region.

I have to design it on tribon m3 but i don't know the program..
How much time have i to spend in your opinion??

If someone of you is able to help me on tribon i can pay for the support..

thank

[jacckko]

i would like to design this ship:

http://www.akerarctic.fi/publications/pdf/norilsk.pdf

anyone can help me??

[JRMacGregor]

I am sorry but your requirements regardiing design are (or were) a little unclear.

1. Do you need to design the HULL SHAPE only of the ice class container ship - perhaps for a student project ?
2. Do you need to make some overall (not just hull shape) design studies for a student project ?
3. Do you need to design the entire ship so that it can be built - not likely since there are no 5000 TEU shipyards in Austria

You would need 50,000 to 100,000 manhours and a lot of experience if the answer was 3.

Since the answer is most likely 1 or 2, you will be able to do what you need in the 100 or 200 hours which will be allocated for your student project.

In that case I think your options will be;

1) If your problem is 1 (and you truly need to break Arctic ice), then you should try to get a paper lines plan of an existing ice BREAKING hull. There are quite a few ice breaking TANKER designs around now. You can import the tanker/breaker shape to your hull design software and start distorting it to give the dimensions and proportions you need for a container ship (lower block coefficient if faster speed is needed).

2a) If you do not need to BREAK Arctic ice, but just need a standard ice class, then you can just use the hull of a standard container ship. You can add extra steel in the ice belt - but the SHAPE remains unchanged in that case. There are many ice class tankers which have the same shape as standard tankers. So same logic may apply for container ship. DWT will be a bit less due to extra weight of steel on same dimensions.

2b) Or you may want to go for DOUBLE ACTING standard ice class - in which case the vessel reverses into the ice and chops up the ice using the propeller or pod - like in the double acting tankers which are already built. In that case you will need to change the container ship stern lines a bit to accommodate the pod.

[JENO]

i'm also interested.. I'm searching a tribon expert to commisionate him a DOUBLE ACTING project in tribon.. i'l pay for that.. Is there anyone interested?