Hull Identification Number

[Willallison]

Does anyone have a publishable copy of the code's for determining the Hull Id Number (HIN)? Per ISO 10087

[Willallison]

Ok - I tracked that down after a lot of searching.
Part of the HIN is a three digit Manufacturers Code (MIC).
I'm now on to trying to find out how get one. I know that the USCG issues them, but I would have thought that other national bodies would too. Here in Oz, nobody seems to know what I'm talking about... NMSC, MAST etc
Also the USCG requires that you phone them so they can send you an application form - surely there's an easier way these days.....

Any help much appreciated!

[oliver.ilg]

Will, I once got a CD from the USCG, where all the info you need was in it. You should check http://www.uscgboating.org as they might have the info for download.
Below is the exerpt I guess is of your primary interest:

PART 181—MANUFACTURER REQUIREMENTS
Subpart C—Identification of Boats

Sec. 181.21—Purpose, applicability and effective dates
Source: CGD 79-013, 48 FR 40718, Sept. 9, 1983, unless otherwise noted.

This subpart prescribes the requirements for identification of boats to which section 46 U.S.C. 4301 applies.

[CGD 79-013, 48 FR 40718, Sept. 9, 1983, as amended by USCG-1998-3799, 63 FR 35534, June 30, 1998; USCG-1999-5832, 64 FR 34716, June 29, 1999]

Sec. 181.23—Hull identification numbers required
(a) A manufacturer (or importer), as defined in Sec. 181.3 of this part, must identify each boat produced or imported with two hull identification numbers that meet the requirements of this subpart:

(1) A primary hull identification number affixed in accordance with Secs. 181.29(a) and (c) of this subpart; and

(2) A duplicate hull identification number affixed in accordance with Secs. 181.29(b) and (c) of this subpart.

(b) A person who builds or imports a boat for his or her own use and not for the purposes of sale, must identify that boat with two hull identification numbers that meet the requirements of this subpart.

(c) No person may assign the same hull identification number to more than one boat.

Sec. 181.25—Hull identification number format
Each of the hull identification numbers required by Sec. 181.23 must consist of twelve characters, uninterrupted by slashes, hyphens, or spaces, as follows:

(a) The first three characters must be a manufacturer identification code assigned under Sec. 181.31(a) or the importer designation assigned under Sec. 181.31(b).

(b) Characters four through eight must be a serial number assigned by the manufacturer in letters of the English alphabet, or Arabic numerals, or both, except the letters I, O, and Q.

(c) Characters nine and ten must indicate the month and year of certification when a date of certification is required. In all other cases characters nine and ten must indicate the date of manufacture. The date indicated can be no earlier than the date construction or assembly began and no later than the date the boat leaves the place of manufacture or assembly or is imported into the United States for the purposes of sale. Character nine must be indicated using letters of the English alphabet. The first month of the year, January, must be designated by the letter “A”, the second month, February, by the letter “B”, and so on until the last month of the year, December. Character ten must be the last digit of the year of manufacture or certification and must be an Arabic numeral.

(d) Characters eleven and twelve must indicate the model year using Arabic numerals for the last two numbers of the model year such as “82” for 1982 and “83” for 1983

[Willallison]

Yes - thanks Oliver
The USCG now has a thing called the Boatbuilder's Handbook which I think gives the same information. Unfortunatley, it doesn't go into to detail about how to establish some of the HIN characters. Fortunately, I managaed to find that out elsewhere and was just left with trying to find out how to get hold of a MIC in Australia.
Since then I think (hope) I've managed to do so - with a bit of luck I'll get the appropriate info from the NMSC (An Aust. regulatory authority). Having said that, I was told today that a HIN can be generated automatically by the appropriate state body when a boat is registered. I'm yet to establish if this is indeed the case. (I have my doubts as the various digits are supposed to be able convey certain info - like build date etc). We shall see....

[oliver.ilg]

Will,
You wont be able to get a MIC in Australia, since they are only Issued to US-manufacturers or importers (including end customers). We build our boats here and sell them in US to a Dealer and he applies for the MIC (first three letters) so on a Boat for US market, this is solved. In the beginning, we also had our customers to apply for the code. They than told us the code assigned and we installed tne numbers on their boats. For our Local market, we established our own MIC, since our authorities do not rule about the numbering of boats, leaving it to the manufactuer. This way we use the same systematics. Hope that helps.

[oliver.ilg]

Example:

SYB SL007 D9 10
\ / \ / \/ \/
| | | Model Year (2010)
| | Date of Manufacturing (D:April; 9:2009)
| Our Serial Number, can be anything; ( SL: Sterling Legend Hull 007)
Our MIC in Brazil

[JotM]

Originally Posted by oliver.ilg

Will,
You wont be able to get a MIC in Australia, since they are only Issued to US-manufacturers or importers (including end customers).

Not correct. In Australia you are expected to get an Australian MIC. Google on "hin mic Australia" got me to the website of the Department for Planning and Infrastructure for Western Australia [link] in minutes, which is quite clear in its statement:

Each boat builder is required to use their allocated number on all HIN plates affixed by them to any boat that they build.

Each manufacturer must apply for a unique Manufacturer's Identity Code (MIC) through the Boating Industry Association (BIA) in their state or direct to the BIA in NSW.

Boat manufacturers are required to mark all new boats with a HIN number conforming to ISO 10087:1995(E) (the international standard).

An ISO standard isn't an American toy, it's a (Western) worldwide toy. The fact MIC's are issued to importers is because of the fact the importers (even end-users) will by law take on every manufacturers obligation when the manufacturer is not a subject to the "local" legislation ("globally" harmonized) on recreational craft safety. Local being at least in the US, Canada, Europe and Australia. I don't know about Brazil.

[Landlubber]

http://www.nmsc.gov.au/documents/ABP_Standard_Web.pdf

[oliver.ilg]

Thanks for the info. I´ll check if Brazil has been recently included or not.
Regards,

[Willallison]

After much searching and a few phone calls, I have indeed managed to track all the relevant bodies down.
The AMIF issues the MIC, which then allows one to to produce a HIN and then an ABP, which is overseen by the NMSC.... it's acronym heaven!
Thanks for all the input gents