essence of yachts

[frank marsden]

With cars the important thing is the body design, the rest needs only to be appropriate

With motorbikes, the engine rules,ok?

For yachts is the rig the king or the hull design?

I am just completeing a single handed self righting self draining dinghy, now into jig building

[SailDesign]

Designers will swear the hull design is the most important, followed by foils. The rig and sailmakers will tell you otherwise.....
Steve

[KCook]

Owners are often more fussy about the interior design. Especially on motor yachts (vs sail).

Kelly Cook

[Wellydeckhand]

When you say essence of yachts, I visualised a beautiful carved work of art. When you say sail boat I think of complex sail and rig system.

A yacht will be sleek and well design external and internal apperance, image thing. You can always point the better yachts if both the ship are next to each other, the better will stand out like .

The hull and displacement are based on owner need for travel speed compromised with the nessecity the equipment and facilities installed on board and extra cruising priority of thing need to bring. A good balance design will be the essence of yacht.

Wellydeckhand

[MikeJohns]

Yes steve
The hull is everything, all the rest is just along for the ride.........

[frank marsden]

Mike,

Makes me pleased those nice people in Freemantle wrote that excellent software

[MikeJohns]

Originally Posted by frank marsden

Mike,

Makes me pleased those nice people in Freemantle wrote that excellent software

Still the essence comes from the designer, you can design an ugly duck with the best software, and it will float perform and look like an ugly duck .....(regardless of the rig).

[frank marsden]

I completely agree.

Cad stands for computer Aided design.

i.e can ease tasks for the designer; does not do the design.

What I like about Maxsurf is that it is intuitive in use, and saves hours of lofting

I have just started on a containerable motor sailer with a potential variety of roles. This will be good looking

If you want to see my previous work. google 'Daimler Corsica'
http://www.answers.com/topic/jaguar-xj

This was my design, but done directly in sheet metal, no cad, no clay model.

[Thaddeus]

Why do you have to choose? Shouldn't there be a unity of design and execution that operates on the craft as a whole?

[frank marsden]

Thaddeus, you are quite right and I agree, however, my reason for asking:-

Designing a modern boat, which, in one form at least an ancient rig is planned, for practical purposes.

Could appear incongruous.

[SailDesign]

Originally Posted by frank marsden

Could appear incongruous.

You'd be amazed at how often it looks perfectly great. Something about the juxtaposition can just click. Or not....
Steve

[frank marsden]

Steve,

I am considering a lanteen rig on a wishbone mast, reason, to be able to lower the mast quickly, easily, single handed on a boat about 8m loa.2.1m beam.

Length will be dictated by interior layout.

Frank

[Wellydeckhand]

After reading EDEY & DUFF on small cruiser- STONE HORSE, I believe they have discribe the essence of yachts as five point.

1. She must be easy to handle with one own experience.
2. She must be comfortable- behaviour at sea and quality of accommodation.
3. She must be seaworthy, point above included.
4. She must be fast, or else funny to see older boat pass you by.
5. She must be beautiful, in the beholder eyes.........

general comment that I still try to understand is when asked 'how big a boat we are looking for?' the ultimate answer would be ' The smallest you can efford'

Well I guess no point of parking a big boat all year round not using it while smaller boat would be more enjoyable.

WDH

[MAINSTAY]

Originally Posted by frank marsden

For yachts is the rig the king or the hull design?

There are many choices of rig and hull today. There can be Una rigs on ultralight hulls, sloop rigs on scows, ketch rigs on keelboats,and mainstay rig on a multihull. The choice is not alphabetical, but determined by the service of the yacht and owner peferences. But once chosen, the essence, the elegance and beauty, is in how well they work together. Their functions are so intertwined that a change in one requires a compensating change in one or the other. Neither is king, unless they are Siamese Kings.
Larry

[Ari]

Originally Posted by frank marsden

Steve,

I am considering a lanteen rig on a wishbone mast, reason, to be able to lower the mast quickly, easily, single handed on a boat about 8m loa.2.1m beam.

Length will be dictated by interior layout.

Frank

Hallo Frank, do you mean Junk sail rig ? I believe a modern version design with lighter batten is beautiful and practical.