The Drawings Package of 165' Yacht We Need

[SIMON_IAG]

Please contact us at simon@iagmacao.com.mo if you have one complete drawings of 165' yacht in hand, we would like to buy if possible. Please find our spec. as follows for your reference.

Purpose: Cruising luxury motor yacht for the world market. General theme, styling and outfit to be modern.
LOA: 165’ {50.29M}
Beam (overall): 33’ {10M}
Draft (half load): 8’ {2.44M}
Hull Type: Displacement hull with bulbous bow and propeller tunnels
Speed: 18 knots maximum, 15 knots cruise
Freshwater: 3,500 U.S. Gallons
Stabilizer System: Dynamic and at rest Quantum Quad fin stabilizer system
Fuel Oil: 15,000 U.S. Gallons
Guest Accommodation: Up to (10) guests in (5) cabins
Crew Accommodation: (12) in (6) cabins
Construction: Steel Hull and Aluminum Superstructure
Propulsion: Twin Screw Caterpillar 3516b marine diesels rated at 2236bhp with fixed pitch propellers
Power Generation: Three Northern Lights 125KW marine diesel generators
Electrical: 120/208vac, 3-phase 60Hz. Low voltage to be 24VDC
Electronics: World-wide navigation and communication; Security and Surveillance system; Ship’s alarm systems & monitoring system. Entertainment system to be independent and distributed.
Designer:
Naval Architecture:
Interior Design:
Engineering & Systems:

[SIMON_IAG]

Thanks for you all who respond us!

[Eric Sponberg]

Simon,

What you are asking for does not really exist--there are no stock plans for a 165' motoryacht. That is why you did not receive any responses.

For a yacht that size, you have to go to a custom design, and so you should be talking directly with a naval architect about designing the boat for your particular needs. You have a start with your specifications so far, but yachts of this size are really very complicated, and it takes an entire design team to design and engineer it properly. The naval architect will also tailor the design to your shipyard's capabilities.

There are plenty of naval architectural firms around the world who specialize in this type of yacht, so you should be looking to them for help.

Regards,

Eric

[SIMON_IAG]

Eric,

Thanks for your kind information, would you please introduce us some naval architectural firms? I am a freshman in this field, yacht is our new project.

Thanks,
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Simon Zhu
Executive Manager
International Audio Group

[Eric Sponberg]

Simon,

There are very many naval architecture and interior design firms around the country and the world that you could approach. One source on the internet that lists designers in the large yacht field is:

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=211

I could throw my own hat into the ring. I have designed boats up to 85', I am negotiating the structural design of a 125' motoryacht. My larger designs do have steel hulls and aluminum superstructures, and I have specified Caterpillar engines before. My motoryachts also have bulbous bows, and these we have been model tested in a towing tank.

When I quote on larger yachts like this, I employ other consulting naval architects to help with the design and engineering; we all communicate by the Internet. We lay out the basic shape of the yacht and do some of the 3-D modelling. For the structural modelling, I use Elliott Bay Design Group in Seattle, WA, who are very good.

On a yacht this size, model testing is always recommended because the bulb is so important to reducing resistance and enhancing seaworthiness. The tank that I recommend is The Institute for Marine Dynamics (IMD) in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada. The office to contact there is Oceanic Consulting, Inc., which is the marketing and technical analysis company that handles all commercial work (as opposed to government or academic work) with IMD. They are very sophisticated in their technology, and very reasonably priced, for building the model and all testing, analysis, and final reports.

As for other firms, there are almost too many to count. In 1993, Boat International magazine, which caters to the very large yacht market, published a list of designers of large yachts. It took two issues to cover the entire field. Of those that were published, the ones below are those that I am most familiar with who specialize in large motoryacht design and who are still in business:

Naval Architecture and Engineering:
John G. Alden, Boston, MA, USA
W. De Vries Lentsch, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Diana Yacht Design, Haarlem, The Netherlands
Gerard Dijkstra, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Ed Dubois Naval Architects, Lymington, Hampshire, England
Tom Fexas Yacht Design, Stuart, Florida, USA
Nigel Gee & Associates, Hamble, Hampshire, England
C. Raymond Hunt Associates, Boston, MA, USA
Langlois & Nadeau, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Laurent Giles, Lymington, Hampshire, England
Lurssen Yacht Design, Bremen, Germany
Modern Marine Design, Bellingham, WA, USA
Mulder Design, Gorinchem, The Netherlands
Jack W. Sarin Naval Architects, Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
Sparkman & Stephens, New York, NY, USA
Three Quays Marine Services, London, England


Interior Design:
Jon Bannenberg, London, England
F. De Voogt, Haarlem, The Netherlands
John Munford Design, Southampton, England
Plachter Interior Design Studio, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Susan Puleo Design, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Dee Robinson Interiors, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Paola D. Smith & Associates, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Donald Starkey Designs, Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Richard Taylor Design, London, England
Andrew Winch Designs, London, England


And that is just a selection. I am sure there are plenty more since this list was published, particularly in France and Italy.

If you would like further advice, you may contact me privately through my website at www.sponbergyachtdesign.com. Email: ewsponberg@sponbergyachtdesign.com.

Regards,

Eric

[MarkC]

Purpose: Cruising luxury motor yacht for the world market. General theme, styling and outfit to be modern.

Wouldn't it be interesting if your project was instead:

Purpose: Cruising luxury motor yacht for the world market. General theme, classic and ellegant and outfit to be turn of the century 'last Chinese emperor'.

Have a Naval Architect choose an appropriate plan and convert it to metric and pass the legal 'codes'.
Build it in steel for economy and the 'look'.
Use a modern engine if you must.
Fit it out with a carefully-done chinese craftsman's woodwork - to 'last emperor' (chinese or German!) look if you like.


and I will be damned if it doesnt sell quicker!

Do something adventurous!

In addition - I would be very surprised if there are not any Chinese Naval Architects or naval interior designers you could find.

This is just my opionion - I wish you the best of luck with your project!

[Tad]

Simon,

You have it right, just buy an existing design package. Commisioning a new design for a plain-vanilla generic spec-build would be foolish. As this is your first yacht project there will plenty of problems without worrying about the design delivery. Buy a sucessful already built design and stick to it. This will save a great deal of trouble and expense.

I can think of four US design offices that will have something very close to what you require.


Gregory Marshall

Overing Yacht Design; yachtdesigns@bellsouth.net

Setzer Deesign Group

Ed Fry

All the best, Tad

[SIMON_IAG]

Originally Posted by Eric W. Sponberg

Simon,

There are very many naval architecture and interior design firms around the country and the world that you could approach. One source on the internet that lists designers in the large yacht field is:

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=211

I could throw my own hat into the ring. I have designed boats up to 85', I am negotiating the structural design of a 125' motoryacht. My larger designs do have steel hulls and aluminum superstructures, and I have specified Caterpillar engines before. My motoryachts also have bulbous bows, and these we have been model tested in a towing tank.

When I quote on larger yachts like this, I employ other consulting naval architects to help with the design and engineering; we all communicate by the Internet. We lay out the basic shape of the yacht and do some of the 3-D modelling. For the structural modelling, I use Elliott Bay Design Group in Seattle, WA, who are very good.

On a yacht this size, model testing is always recommended because the bulb is so important to reducing resistance and enhancing seaworthiness. The tank that I recommend is The Institute for Marine Dynamics (IMD) in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada. The office to contact there is Oceanic Consulting, Inc., which is the marketing and technical analysis company that handles all commercial work (as opposed to government or academic work) with IMD. They are very sophisticated in their technology, and very reasonably priced, for building the model and all testing, analysis, and final reports.

As for other firms, there are almost too many to count. In 1993, Boat International magazine, which caters to the very large yacht market, published a list of designers of large yachts. It took two issues to cover the entire field. Of those that were published, the ones below are those that I am most familiar with who specialize in large motoryacht design and who are still in business:

Naval Architecture and Engineering:
John G. Alden, Boston, MA, USA
W. De Vries Lentsch, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Diana Yacht Design, Haarlem, The Netherlands
Gerard Dijkstra, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Ed Dubois Naval Architects, Lymington, Hampshire, England
Tom Fexas Yacht Design, Stuart, Florida, USA
Nigel Gee & Associates, Hamble, Hampshire, England
C. Raymond Hunt Associates, Boston, MA, USA
Langlois & Nadeau, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Laurent Giles, Lymington, Hampshire, England
Lurssen Yacht Design, Bremen, Germany
Modern Marine Design, Bellingham, WA, USA
Mulder Design, Gorinchem, The Netherlands
Jack W. Sarin Naval Architects, Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
Sparkman & Stephens, New York, NY, USA
Three Quays Marine Services, London, England


Interior Design:
Jon Bannenberg, London, England
F. De Voogt, Haarlem, The Netherlands
John Munford Design, Southampton, England
Plachter Interior Design Studio, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Susan Puleo Design, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Dee Robinson Interiors, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Paola D. Smith & Associates, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Donald Starkey Designs, Isleworth, Middlesex, England
Richard Taylor Design, London, England
Andrew Winch Designs, London, England


And that is just a selection. I am sure there are plenty more since this list was published, particularly in France and Italy.

If you would like further advice, you may contact me privately through my website at www.sponbergyachtdesign.com. Email: ewsponberg@sponbergyachtdesign.com.

Regards,

Eric

Dear Eric,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply, it is very helpful for us. we know you are a expert in this field, we are also very happy meeting you here.
I will report our chairman & president for our further step.
Thanks again,
___________________
Simon Zhu

[SIMON_IAG]

Originally Posted by MarkC

Wouldn't it be interesting if your project was instead:

Purpose: Cruising luxury motor yacht for the world market. General theme, classic and ellegant and outfit to be turn of the century 'last Chinese emperor'.

Have a Naval Architect choose an appropriate plan and convert it to metric and pass the legal 'codes'.
Build it in steel for economy and the 'look'.
Use a modern engine if you must.
Fit it out with a carefully-done chinese craftsman's woodwork - to 'last emperor' (chinese or German!) look if you like.


and I will be damned if it doesnt sell quicker!

Do something adventurous!

In addition - I would be very surprised if there are not any Chinese Naval Architects or naval interior designers you could find.

This is just my opionion - I wish you the best of luck with your project!

Dear Mark,
So please to get your information, yes, I agree with you. you know that we buy the existed drawings package of 165' yacht so that we can save time.
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Simon Zhu

[SIMON_IAG]

Originally Posted by Tad

Simon,

You have it right, just buy an existing design package. Commisioning a new design for a plain-vanilla generic spec-build would be foolish. As this is your first yacht project there will plenty of problems without worrying about the design delivery. Buy a sucessful already built design and stick to it. This will save a great deal of trouble and expense.

I can think of four US design offices that will have something very close to what you require.


Gregory Marshall

Overing Yacht Design; yachtdesigns@bellsouth.net

Setzer Deesign Group

Ed Fry

All the best, Tad

Dear Tad,
Would you please contact me at my mail: simon@iagmacao.com.mo? I need know the details if possible.
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Simon Zhu