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Old 09-21-2009, 10:25 PM
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Drag question........

All right, first post and first question. Cut Me a little slack here as I used all My boating knowledge to answer the no spam question on the sign up page.

I have been looking at motor sailer's recently. They all have a prop hanging off the bottom of them. Since the motor is generally used just for maneuvering around the harbor, Wouldn't it present a large amount of drag while under sail? Do they have feathering props? Wouldn't a pump set-up like a jet boat result in a lot sleeker underside? Am I on crack and over thinking this?

I lied, multiple questions................
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:05 PM
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A sizable prop does have a large amount of drag. It is best to have the prop shaft locked while sailing.
A lot of motorsailor owners just accept the drag penalty as they are not racing. Others do opt for feathering or variable pitch props.
I suppose there may be a few water jets on motorsailors somewhere, but I am not aware of them. A conventional shaft and prop are cheaper and very reliable so that is probably the reason for not resorting to more efficient alternatives.
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:35 PM
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The next question ("more efficient alternatives") is more efficient "when". It is a "motor-sailor", you say, which indicates it is motoring probably more than it is sailing, or, at least, a lot. A feathering prop isn't bad. Jets open up a can of worms you're gonna want to put back. Too big for an outboard?
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Old 09-22-2009, 03:10 AM
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You don't say what size vessel you are looking at. Prop drag is in proportion to the prop diameter and a 70 - 40 (70% on the motoring side) will generally want a larger fixed prop turning slowly.
A 40-70 will be more likely to have a smaller prop and then a feathering prop is affordable and will give you better performance under sail for light and medium air often adding a half to one knot to the speed under sail.

It's all compromises and no absolute hard and fast rules.
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:18 AM
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You don't say what size vessel you are looking at.
That just brings up more questions.

Needs to have long range extended time at sea capability's, leaning towrds a multi-hull. Living space versus speed.
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:30 AM
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Jets open up a can of worms you're gonna want to put back.
How so? While I have never owned a jet powered craft, I have worked on quite a few pumps being a machinist. Most of the problems I see with them a maintenance (or lack thereof) related along with the throw away PWC manufacturing standards.






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Too big for an outboard?
Don't know yet. How big is too big for an outboard?
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