Downeast hull design

[Marc78]

Hello,

I'm looking for plans of a hull of 27' to 29' of lobster boat / downeast hull, skeg style, similar to the hull of the Hinckley 29 or Arundel 27 (see pics below). We plan to build the boat ourself. I've browsed the internet for designs, but unsatisfactory untill now. Is there anybody who knows a designer who sells plans for a reasonable price?

Thanks a lot.

Marc

[mmd]

How about a 26-foot Cape Island style?

[vishnubaiju]

Dear mmd,
Appears a nice design. But the dimensions are not clear.
Can you please send the dimensions separately.

[Marc78]

Hello mmd, thanks for the reply, but our interest goes out to a similar hull type as in the pictures I included in my first post. I presume your hull is round chime? We are looking for hard chime to make it a litlle easier to get the boat on high speed with a little less engine power.

Marc

[mmd]

Vishnubaiju:

Hull Data:

LOA: ................. 26ft - 0in
LWL: ................. 24ft - 11in
BOA: ................. 8ft - 6in
BWL: ................. 7ft - 4in
DEPTH (overall) ... 5ft - 5in
DRAFT (lwl) ........ 2ft - 0in
DISPL(lwl) .......... 2.90tons (4580lbs)
TPI 1" ............... 0.490 tons/in

Marc78, yes, my hull is a round chine hull (the proper term is chine, not chime), which is one of the features that define the Downeast, Cape Island, and Northumberland Strait type lobsterboats. The boat shown in your posted pictures may be called a Downeast-type by some, but it is pretty far removed from the archetypical lobsterboat. Lobsterboats are round-chined, semi-planing, and have a three-quarter cabin with hard top. The superstructure and cockpit layout of the boat in the photos are more reminiscent of a Cuttyhunk bassboat than anything else. The hull is definitely not a Downeast hull.

Sorry to be so picayune, but it irks me that the terms describing a very specific type of boat are being randomly tossed about to the point that they are becoming meaningless. It is tatamount to calling a Honda Gold Wing motorcycle a Harley because it is big and has two wheels.

Possibly you would like to commission a design so that you can have exactly the boat that you want. In the grand scheme of things it really isn't that much extra money - about 7% to 10% of the total cost of the boat. And you'll have a design perfectly suited to your needs and area of use.

[CET]

Originally Posted by mmd

Marc78, yes, my hull is a round chine hull (the proper term is chine, not chime), which is one of the features that define the Downeast, Cape Island, and Northumberland Strait type lobsterboats. The boat shown in your posted pictures may be called a Downeast-type by some, but it is pretty far removed from the archetypical lobsterboat. Lobsterboats are round-chined, semi-planing, and have a three-quarter cabin with hard top. The superstructure and cockpit layout of the boat in the photos are more reminiscent of a Cuttyhunk bassboat than anything else. The hull is definitely not a Downeast hull.

Sorry to be so picayune, but it irks me that the terms describing a very specific type of boat are being randomly tossed about to the point that they are becoming meaningless. It is tatamount to calling a Honda Gold Wing motorcycle a Harley because it is big and has two wheels.

Possibly you would like to commission a design so that you can have exactly the boat that you want. In the grand scheme of things it really isn't that much extra money - about 7% to 10% of the total cost of the boat. And you'll have a design perfectly suited to your needs and area of use.

Marc78:

Check out the plans described here: http://boatplans-online.com/products.php?id=18

There are several designs that are similar to what I believe you're looking for. Hope this helps.

Charlie

[Marc78]

Thanks a lot for the reactions.

Charlie, thhanx for the link, the boats shown indeed come very close to what I'm looking for, but still not quite the "touch and finish" I'm actualy looking for.

MMD, thanks for the background information, sorry for using the wrong terms, since I'm dutch I'm not that faniliar with the right terms in english... At the moment I'm doing a little designing/sketching for myself with the type of hull and layout I wish to have. Since I have no design background at all I have no knowledge of constructions, designing the right underwater hull shape so it can actualy do about the speed I want it to do etc. etc. Is it possible if I finished the design, I mail it to you and you give me a quote what about the cost will be for a complete design?

Marc

[Wayne Grabow]

MMD, thanks for your definition of "lobsterboat". I have seen so many things called a lobsterboat recently that I started wondering if it wasn't the flavor of the month. My guess is that such a design is becoming more popular because it is esthetically distinctive and functionally more fuel efficient (in the speed range at which it operates). As you say, the more encompassing the term becomes, the more meaningless it also is. I tend to focus on the semiplaning hull bottom features first, since above-decks accomodations are so frequently individually modified.

[mmd]

Marc78, I didn't mean to lecture you on your use of English, it is much better than my (non-existant) Dutch. Having grown up with lobsterboats I tend to get a bit over-protective when their terms of reference are mis-used. This is my problem, not yours.

As far as my consulting on your design, I would be happy to help. My unofficial policy is that I'll talk about boats all day long at no charge; when we get to the point where I have to create drawings or do calculations then I start the time-clock. Feel free to private message or e-mail me to discuss your project.

[wdnboatbuilder]

Might try Ralph Stanley in Southwest Harbor ME. Just across the harbor from Hincley he might be able to help you out.

[longliner45]

Marc78,,you can buy hull kits from jc boat , they are really good boats,,,,,longliner

[dobsong]

Originally Posted by mmd

How about a 26-foot Cape Island style?

Can anyone tell me where I can get more information on designs like thi?

[rasorinc]

There are dozens of designs of this type hull on the internet. Do you really want a displacement hull? You are therefore restricted to a maximum of about 12 knots? Best to you, Stan

[dobsong]

Originally Posted by rasorinc

There are dozens of designs of this type hull on the internet. Do you really want a displacement hull? You are therefore restricted to a maximum of about 12 knots? Best to you, Stan

Stan,
The treatment of the last few feet of the bottom of the hull interested me thats why I was wondering about the design.

It it reminded me of the underwater profile of Salimina, a 39' designed by William Atkin that has a a service speed of 16-20 mph with 125hp.

[wet feet]

Originally Posted by dobsong

Can anyone tell me where I can get more information on designs like thi?

Have you tried a message to the original poster?