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Old 05-06-2009, 08:09 AM
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On the page to bateau, did you look at this 26' boat:

http://www.bateau.com/studyplans/LB2....htm?prod=LB26

Is pretty close to one of the boats in your first post, methink...
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:41 PM
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This is the 26-ft Cape Islander illustrated above, built as an open boat:



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Old 05-06-2009, 10:31 PM
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Thanks guys appreciated - think I've got my "short list" a few oldies and one new one (a Wilbur 42 - www.wilburyachts.com ) just got to decide now... in the meantime I'll keep on enjoying my 1961 Halverson Sea Skiff - a 24' clinker with a nice cabin and an old Chrysler 318
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:39 PM
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what would the performance curve look like for a true Down Easter
or better yet is there a calculator were I can upload sections and figure it out myself
as compared to say a full displacement hull of the same length
and a full planing hull of the same length
looking for a speed to energy graph



Ive done my time on the old lobster boats and I know how nicely they handle
just not sure how energy efficient they are
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:05 PM
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Ive done my time on the old lobster boats and I know how nicely they handle
just not sure how energy efficient they are
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very....................... OR say, this is 14kn at 78hp...............Questions?



if they are "LOBSTERBOATS" not _inckley_ or the like!
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:44 PM
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Hello,

I'm looking for plans of a hull of 27' to 29' of lobster boat / downeast hull, skeg style, similar to the hull of the Hinckley 29 or Arundel 27 (see pics below). We plan to build the boat ourself. I've browsed the internet for designs, but unsatisfactory untill now. Is there anybody who knows a designer who sells plans for a reasonable price?

Thanks a lot.

Marc



Marc,
I like this design http://www.nexusmarine.com/odysy.html seems efficient, reasonable fast and to my eye is good looking!

Unfortunately its a couple of feet longer than what your looking for!

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Old 05-14-2009, 10:09 PM
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very....................... OR say, this is 14kn at 78hp...............Questions?



if they are "LOBSTERBOATS" not _inckley_ or the like!
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Richard
Ive seen the hull design used in boats as big as 50 feet
whats the length and displacement of the boat pictured
and thanks for the info

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other than kid sized sailing boats of every flavor the basic lobster boat is the only boat I do have any time in on
I spent several summers pulling traps a few times a week
we also did some diving off one owned by the neighbor
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:17 PM
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Nice design, bad crafted.

As you can see, the bottom is planked by ply sheets that in the better case are scarfed.
A good idea on a 4 meter boat...................
Better you go for something thoroughly designed. And crafted to that design.
It may stand the test of time and waves though, but it is not a <boat>. It is a watercraft........
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:21 PM
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Ive seen the hull design used in boats as big as 50 feet
whats the length and displacement of the boat pictured
and thanks for the info

best
B

other than kid sized sailing boats of every flavor the basic lobster boat is the only boat I do have any time in on
I spent several summers pulling traps a few times a week
we also did some diving off one owned by the neighbor
Just enjoy my Gallery mate, the length of the boats is almost pretty obvious.

And I do them to 105īthis style.

AThanks.
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:05 PM
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where is your site Richard
would love to check it out

Ive read lots of different opinions of the downeasters
some good
some saying that the flat after section spooks em for open sea fairing
but Ive been out on georges bank in em in some pretty ugly stuff and I dont seem to remember ever being in any trouble
course that was say a 32 ish boat and I wasnt driving
or frankly even thinking about it
was just riding it out on the trip back in
it was a long time ago but still
I always thought the old lobster boat design was pretty dam stable
everyone used it and I just dont remember folks complaining much about there handling

B

oh and my bad
still learning this whole internet etiquette thing
kinda a newbie at the forum thing
thanks for the tip
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:38 PM
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don't know if this will offer any assistance but with the larger skeg it is very stable in adverse conditions. I bought the study plan and really annalized them before going with a
cat https://www.boatdesigns.com/products.asp?dept=729
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Old 05-14-2009, 11:40 PM
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where is your site Richard

Except for some privately done arrangements, I produce for several well known brands on a stringent contract.
My Gallery shows almost more than allowed.
Stand it.

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Old 05-14-2009, 11:52 PM
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no worries I wont tell anyone
so the design is effective in the 60' range ( 20 meters )
what would the draft be, approximately, at that length
Ild guess about 4 feet ( 1.3 meters )
( I notice you are in Germany so I thought Ild not torture you with our ridiculous imperial system

also
do soft chines adversely effect the performance
I notice in your pictures those are hard chines and I was thinking soft chines all the way

the point of a hard chine is always getting torn up and as a kid I repaired those dents and missing chunks regularly
the softer chines dont seem to take as much of a beating
or at least not that I remember
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:54 AM
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Calling a 72' deep-vee power cruiser a Lobsterboat is as bizarre as calling a shallow vee hull with funny deckhouse a Trawler. Marketing foolishness! Ooo.....it's a Lobsterboat....that's good right?

All these "Lobsterboats" are knockoff's of Hinckley Picnic Boats, but they can't be called Picnic Boats because Hinckley will take them to court.... The original Picnic Boat's (1960's), before Hinckley got into the business, were built on Lobster Boat hulls. Real, round bottom, full keel, single engined lobster boat hulls. Some Italian marketing guy read a bad translation of this picnic boat history and they all became "Lobster Boats".

This is a Lobster Boat.....

Downeast hull design-img_1914.jpg
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Calling a 72' deep-vee power cruiser a Lobsterboat is as bizarre as calling a shallow vee hull with funny deckhouse a Trawler. Marketing foolishness! Ooo.....it's a Lobsterboat....that's good right?

All these "Lobsterboats" are knockoff's of Hinckley Picnic Boats, but they can't be called Picnic Boats because Hinckley will take them to court.... The original Picnic Boat's (1960's), before Hinckley got into the business, were built on Lobster Boat hulls. Real, round bottom, full keel, single engined lobster boat hulls. Some Italian marketing guy read a bad translation of this picnic boat history and they all became "Lobster Boats".

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Tad, I understand your desire to educate the unwashed masses but it ain't gonna happen. There are just too many of them out there. I've yet to come up with an adequate reply when someone calls one of my boats a trawler or lobsterboat.
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