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Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by CatBuilder, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    I am getting ready to cut out my bulkheads. I'm too lazy (and want to go too fast) to go and get large print outs done to trace out.

    Instead, I'd like to transfer the bulkhead patterns to mylar (or just use the .dwg files) and just quickly follow a projected line on the bulkhead sheets for a fast, simple cut out process.

    I'm looking to do a dimensionally accurate projection.

    Anyone have any thoughts on this and what will be the best way to do a dimensionally accurate projection?

    Scale doesn't matter - I'll take care of scale by using some known distances on the projection.
     
  2. nukisen
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    nukisen Senior Member

    Why not let someone cut out chablons for you with a cnc cutting machine. waterjet cutting machines are also able to cut them out for you in a soft easy quite thin material it will go very fast.
     
  3. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    It's 12MM Okoume, which is currently at my boat shed. I'm not interested in paying for CNC or transporting material elsewhere.
     
  4. bntii
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    bntii Senior Member

    If you need fast for the least effort a real pattern buys both.

    My large roll feed plotter makes short work of patterns directly from .dwg files...

    How many bulkheads?
    Zip me one of the files and I will check to see how plotter ready it is:

    trboatworks @ gmail.com
     
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  5. nukisen
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    nukisen Senior Member

    Thats a very cheap and also a perfect solution.
    Just see what this forum is able to do.
     
  6. nukisen
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    nukisen Senior Member

    I wonder why it puts double posts when answering from my cellphone?
     
  7. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    nukisen: My phone replies do the same thing, but only on this forum. Strange, isn't it?

    One of the bulkhead files has been sent, Bntii. Thanks for having a look.
     
  8. Lurvio
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    Lurvio Mad scientist

    If you have the drawing in a cad-format, you could place a rectangle the size of your plywood to the picture and start measuring points in coordinates X and Y. I used this method to loft the stem lines to a plywood for my little boat project. I had small enough radiuses to use center point and end points and use a compass to draw the line. Enough points (4 to 8 inches apart) will give you 'good enough' accuracy.


    Lurvio
     
  9. upchurchmr
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    upchurchmr Senior Member

    Sorry I don't understand the problem. Are you talking about projecting as in a projection TV? At work we have some people putting drawings into a power point format, projecting onto a work surface in order to accurately locate drilling points for attaching brackets. The only thing I know they do is include a dimensioned line vertically and horizontally to check the projection scale. There must be more but I have only heard about the process.

    Marc
     
  10. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Exactly! :idea:

    Yes. I have print outs (not to scale) and some .dxf files. (not DWG)

    I was thinking of skipping a whole lot of steps by putting my plywood sheet up in a vertical manner and possibly using something like this to project the image directly onto the sheet so I could just start cutting it out:

    [​IMG]

    Seems a lot easier then going through a bunch of printing BS or tracing things out with carbon paper.

     
  11. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    Michaelangelo did it by punching holes in a sheet of paper along the lines and shining a candle behind it. He then marked the dots on the wall and connected them. I think it was Michaelangelo. I could be mistaken.
     
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

  13. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    That's the kind of stuff... there we go!

    I may try that as well, but with a little more than a candle. :p
     
  14. DCockey
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    Anyone planning on using a projection system should check for distortion. Prepare a simple square grid and project it. The projected lines should be straight, parallel and equal distances apart.

    If the lines are not parallel but are straight then the projecter isn't properly aligned with the surface you are projecting on.

    If the lines are curved, particularly lines near the edges, then the surface you are projecting on isn't flat and/or the lens has some distortion. I would not be surprised if a lenses in a projection systems has some distortion, particularly a zoom lens.

    If the lines are straight and parallel but the lines in one direction are different distance apart than the lines in the other direction then there is a problem before the lens. If a printed grid is being projected then possibly the printer isn't perfect. If projector is the type which hooks directly to a computer then the projector image system isn't perfect.

    How much you should be concerned about this depends on how accurate the enlargements need to be.
     

  15. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Yes, Dc. Agreed. That is what I asked about in the first post.
     
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