Concrete submarine

Originally Posted by safffff

I have followed Willmer for 4 yrs. Apex is good to question. But is not the ultimate goal is to succeed in this project. No one including apex is willing to put up the testing dollars of constructing destroyable subs and sure there are concrete compounds that are 5 time stronger. but is this man of vision anything less than Orville Wright that had many aspect of flying incorrect. By creating one sub for a costumer is not a profit making adventure. This thread should be dedicated to progressing this technology. All the attacks are useless in helping this move forward. I want a sub that that can take 50,000psi economically built but no billionaire is offering an X prize to do so. So criticize as you may you aren't helping to advance this goal. I imagine a hull of multiple spheres with the new concrete materials can do this. I suspect that people like apex want to stop his research proved by his inability to come up with innovated ways to help Willmer surpass his dreams, because I've not seen one creative idea from him to help this progress. People lets dream to get this done and a compressible substance like concrete, ceramic that gets stronger under pressure is the way to go. Willmer I'm in San Fransisco and would consider it a honor to help your new sub along with any labor help you need as I would have offered to the Wright brothers.
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What a bullsh... is that?

Has your hero done ONE single effort to get support? Did we ask him 20 times to tell us just only the material he uses?

Was´nt more than half of the contributors here willing to assist? ME INCLUDED

But when the only reply is salesmens drivel, and drivel, and drivel again, but not one single figure, what do you expect?

Did you step in here to attack ME exclusively, or do you have any worthwile contributions to supply?

You should kill the bugs btw. they can transfer severe diseases.......

[dskira]

Originally Posted by safffff

I have followed Willmer for 4 yrs. Apex is good to question. But is not the ultimate goal is to succeed in this project. No one including apex is willing to put up the testing dollars of constructing destroyable subs and sure there are concrete compounds that are 5 time stronger. but is this man of vision anything less than Orville Wright that had many aspect of flying incorrect. By creating one sub for a costumer is not a profit making adventure. This thread should be dedicated to progressing this technology. All the attacks are useless in helping this move forward. I want a sub that that can take 50,000psi economically built but no billionaire is offering an X prize to do so. So criticize as you may you aren't helping to advance this goal. I imagine a hull of multiple spheres with the new concrete materials can do this. I suspect that people like apex want to stop his research proved by his inability to come up with innovated ways to help Willmer surpass his dreams, because I've not seen one creative idea from him to help this progress. People lets dream to get this done and a compressible substance like concrete, ceramic that gets stronger under pressure is the way to go. Willmer I'm in San Fransisco and would consider it a honor to help your new sub along with any labor help you need as I would have offered to the Wright brothers.

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What a BS here. Is Wellmer ask you to wrote that crap, or you are Wellmer under an other name.
Who are you kidding.
It didn't work, go back to Columbia, and stop lying Wellmer.
And stop asking for money (the underlying ultimate goal of your non project)
Daniel
Contrary to you I sign whet I wrote with my real name.

[dskira]

By the Safffff or Wellmer it is starnge that all your 10 posts are about the same non existant concrete crap.
Do you think we are stupid.
An other guy from SF try that crap, it didn't work.
You are worst that I imagined Wellmer, inventing support.
Then attacking only Richard, you poor moroon go back to your cave. I don't like obviously dishonest people
Daniel

[dskira]

Stafffff Wellmer, we don't need people like you, trying to take money for a fake submarine.
It is an insult to mention the Wright Brother on your stupid post, you are not by far in the same league.
Daniel

[dskira]

I wonder if the Wellmer concrte sustain this kind of acid abuse:

[dskira]

Wellmer or Saffffffffff I have the bug for you too

[Submarine Tom]

Saffff,

It was me who suggested the destructive test, not Apex.

I agree with you that this thread is highly polarized and not very

constructive. This is one reason I proposed the destructive test to put an

end to all the useless drivel from BOTH sides of the arguement.

I too was on-side with Wellmer. I even became the North American sales

representative but when he repeatedly failed to communicate with me as to

how I could further his cause and assist him here while he spent an

abundance of time and energy arrogantly defending his unsubstantiated

claims, I felt it time for him to put his money where his mouth was.

He disappeared.

He is a fraud, a fake, a talker and talk is cheap until you get the bill.

He's over due...

-Tom

Originally Posted by Submarine Tom

Saffff,

It was me who suggested the destructive test, not Apex.

He is a fraud, a fake, a talker and talk is cheap until you get the bill.

He's over due...

-Tom

Thank Tom,

both not worth the effort I think. Same caliber, big bullet, no powder.

And both do´nt know the simplest rule of life: do´nt sh!t where you eat!

A pity to hear you wasted time and money with such idiot!

Regards
Richard
ah and do´nt kill the bug, thats Wilfried...

[Submarine Tom]

Richard,

You make me laugh, thank you.

I like Wilfred the bug!

-Tom

[hoytedow]

Originally Posted by safffff

I have followed Willmer for 4 yrs. Apex is good to question. But is not the ultimate goal is to succeed in this project. No one including apex is willing to put up the testing dollars of constructing...but is this man of vision anything less than Orville Wright that had many aspect of flying incorrect. By creating one sub for a costumer is not a profit making adventure.....This thread should be dedicated to progressing this technology. forward.....I want a sub that that can take 50,000psi economically built...with the new concrete materials.... I suspect that people like apex want to stop his research....Willmer I'm in San Fransisco and would consider it a honor to help your new sub along with any labor help you need as I would have offered to the Wright brothers.

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The Wright brothers didn't take their unproven design and sell it to some naive customer to break his neck with. First, they tested, tested, tested and didn't have a customer take the risk. When that hull fails, the customer will either be drowned or crushed by the implosion of the hull. Fish food either way. Never sell your prototype. It is for research, not profit.


...and that bugs me.

[MikeJohns]

Originally Posted by safffff

I have followed Willmer for 4 yrs...............but is this man of vision anything less than Orville Wright................as I would have offered to the Wright brothers..

Consider that in this case “concrete” submarines have been researched developed and produced with success. Although with completely different construction for very good reason.

Wilfried still needs to say who the team of experts were that he apparently consulted, any one of them would have some serious questions to answer.

[safffff]

Please show me the pictures of a completed sub that you have produced, that is better than what Wellmer has produced. End of story, thank you.

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Peers,
please,
only this one time.
Give me permission to say what I´m thinking!
Yeah? Ok then:

saffff you are a idiot

[dskira]

Originally Posted by safffff

Please show me the pictures of a completed sub that you have produced, that is better than what Wellmer has produced. End of story, thank you.

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MOROON, Wellmer didn't make or operate a submarine.
Please do not ask this stupid and absurde question. If you think it was a legitimate question you are a moroon without any doubt.
Now I have a question for you moroon: Who are you to post a question like that, what credential you have if I show you a picture?
How could you discern the capability of a submarine from a picture?
You can't moroon.
You are WellmerSafffffff a fraud.

[Submarine Tom]

saffffff,

" End of story, thank you."

No, thank you. Good-bye.

-Tom