Building a Small Boat

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by mgriffin, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. mgriffin

    mgriffin Previous Member

    Plover? I don't get it... And remember apex, I am still going to build that boat. I was just talking about what I am going to do after I get tired of it. So don't worry about me not sticking to the boat project.
     
  2. mgriffin

    mgriffin Previous Member

    Oh yeah, Apex, I had a question. If I built that WeeVee boat and modded it, by putting a sheet of ply to cover the top of it (like a kayak, where it is covered so water can't enter but the boater has a hole so he can enter the boat) and I added a superstructure to strengthen the hull, and maybe a a cabin thats 4' by 3.5', do you think it would be able to survive a storm at sea, maybe a hurricane? Oh yeah, it would still have the inboard motor and with all of the hatches closed it would be completely water tight. Maybe even a backup sail if the motor dies. I think top heaviness might be a problem if I added a cabin and a sail, so I would position the seat lower and the cabin would have very small windows to survive waves.
     
  3. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Oh Oh...
    but you are on the right way to answer your own question.....................

    And Kiebitz is this:
     

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  4. mgriffin

    mgriffin Previous Member

    All I have to do today is sit in front of my computer since summer break started. If you ask me, I'm kinda bored. I'm going to start a new thread in the open discussion section. I will give the link for it. This thread has served it's purpose and I am happy that I have found a small boat that I can build. Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you I have almost saved 300 dollars, or 187.5 euros.
     
  5. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    cannot tell you more than you know................
    but thanks for the PM!
     
  6. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    Yea, but it's not as pretty as the one I offered you . . .
     
  7. mgriffin

    mgriffin Previous Member

    Uh Pm? what Pm? (Private Message?)
     
  8. ben2go
    Joined: Jul 2008
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    ben2go Boat Builder Wanna Be

    Yes.PM is short for private message.
     
  9. mgriffin

    mgriffin Previous Member

    yes, i know. what pm is he talking of though?
     
  10. pistnbroke
    Joined: Jan 2009
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    Location: Noosa.Australia where god kissed the earth.

    pistnbroke I try

    Keep it simple

    Saw this boat design on www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk ( look in forum) and thought that a young person should be making a boat in a modern way not with frames ...once cut it would not take an hour to get to the stage shown and then its on with the poly resin...job done in a couple of days

    The first design this guy did had too much V in the stern and was too tippy hence the flatter stern /transom
     

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  11. apex1

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  12. PAR
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    PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

    You missed one Richard, Proboscis Metering.
     
  13. apex1

    apex1 Guest

    Nice that I can rely on you! Thanks Paul.
     
  14. motoklas
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    motoklas Junior Member

    water camper?

    Hello to all!
    I am very happy to find this tread, where serious and qualified people discus not so important maters, on very responsible way. However, all of that is very important to me because I plan to build a small boat for cruising on rivers, canals and lakes. But, first to introduce me to this nice company: I am not a designer, I will not be one, and I shall not pretend that I am… I am just an old (58 years), big (188 cm and 115 kg, or 74” and 253 lb) guy (still am) that like camping (on land and water), wanting to connect those two passions in one.

    I live in small town named Zemun, which is a part of Serbian capital Belgrade. Both of them lay on two nice and wide international rivers: the Danube and the Sava. They are mostly calm and slow running, something between 4 and 8 miles per hour (depending on the level of the waters) at the mainstream, but near the shore waters speed are almost zero. The river Sava is wide around ½ of mile near Belgrade and the Danube is wide from 2/3 to 1 mile. There are legends between old river fishermen and sailors about waves high up to 8’, but even if that is a true, they are rare and fare away down the Danube (anyway, no need to be on the open water in that circumstances). Then, we have strong and cold winter winds up to 100 mile/hour, but anyway such weather should be better spent in cafés or at home, in any case. More danger could be from sudden spring and summer thunderstorms, but a shore is always close.

    There is more then 500 miles for cruising with smaller boats (a few rivers and a lot of wider canals, or lakes). Longer distances I will cover trailing my boat by car, camping in it on land or water. Entire country can be crossed in a few hours even with trailer behind. I can visit Hungary (the river Tisa), Croatia (the river Sava and Drava), or Bosnia (the river Drina)… Not a big deal, but still I shall need dependable and safe boat in any way. I am too old to learn sailing, so I will use only motor propulsion. It will be TOMOS outboard, 50cc and 3-5 hp. My priorities are:
    1. Safe boat (I like adventures, but prefer watching other people on TV)
    2. Small boat (no need for a big one, easy to build, maintain, use… / “small is beautiful” & “little is enough”, especially in those years)
    3. Simple (quick build in my backyard, with my tools and knowledge, very soon on a water)
    4. Cheap (no need for expensive materials, it will look cheap anyway, and I will need it for only 100 years)

    Sorry for too long introduction, but that may help for better understanding of my wants and needs. Concrete ideas in next post…

    Best regards,
    Zoran
    Belgrade, Serbia
     

  15. motoklas
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    motoklas Junior Member

    camping, river and land

    … It seems to me that I can’t be “short”, probably of my professional deceases (I am a lawyer, but fortunately working all my life in industrial companies, not as advocate or solicitor) and poor knowledge of English, which is not my native language…

    With my girlfriend (now ex) I had plans to make one cute and efficient river motor cruiser, metal hull 9 meter long 2 meter wide (29 ft long and 6 ft 6” wide), double-ender, flat-bottom…
    But, now I don’t need such a “monster” just for me (and for one female guest, sometime), so I will build one micro-shanty, as soon as possible - so, I could enjoy a few years in daily & weekend excursions, with some shorter trips for a few days.
    I like all that micro-box boats 2.44 meter long and 1.22 m wide (8 ft long and 4 ft wide), or something longer as CHUGER, they are cute and I feel very cosy in them, like baby in luxurious carriage… However, I think that they are too small (real comfort we can’t expect anyway) and too dangerous on bigger river (instable on waves from ships, or catch by sudden stronger wind)…
    So, now I have three designs in my mind, with approximately 5-6 square meters (52.8 - 64.5 square feet) of flat bottom, entirely built of plywood:
    1. Long and narrow, double-ender (sharp ellipse): 6 meters long and 1 meter wide at bottom (20 ft long and more then 3 ft wide) - the fastest among all three of them?
    2. Tug boat, shorter and wider (“fat” ellipse): just a little longer then 3 meters and a little wider of 2 meters (10 ft long and 6 ft 6” wide) - the most stable (dynamically and statically) among all three of them?
    3. Canal barge, longer but narrower (square base): 4.88 meter long and 1.22 meter wide (16 ft long and 4 ft wide) - the most practical among all three of them? This one I will build in two parts: the first will be a cabin (in style similar to tear-drop campers) and the second will be open, simple box in style similar to PD-Racers; Cabin-boat will be transported on a trailer and use as a camper during land brake-offs and open boat on top of cabin-boat or on a top of a car… Open-boat can be used separately on water, during short staying; mostly, both boats will be used connected as one boat! More stable (?) and more space… That idea comes to me from exchange messages with Bruce Hector about his TIMS-project of modular long-boat!
    However, after reading all the posts, it seems to me that Par’s micro-tug boat could be the most practical solution, good compromise and cute boat… Must say that I discovered this tread after finding his plan using GOOGLE searching!
    Hugh… that will be enough, or too much, from me!:eek:
    Regards,
    Zoran
     
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