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[spork]

Originally Posted by kerosene

Only to a point. And we are certainly past that.

So people can continue to accuse you of being hateful, angry, and troll-like because you defend yourself against attacks, and you'll stop responding. Excuse me if I don't believe you.

Now if you really want to prove you want to drop this - prove it.

[windboat]

Originally Posted by Stumble

Wind,

Tell you what as soon as you have a couple of hundred years of boat building experience, building the same boat then it is a fair comparison.

What you are trying to sell is a brand new never before been done idea. So in this age of knowledge, where we know how to do calculations not doing them makes you look like either a fraud, or not very serious about the project. And since just a few simple calculations show your idea to be junk you need to show a lot more to be taken seriously.

The combination of our project:
hull, electric windturbine , rechargeable battery, electric motor.
These 4 elements have been well knew by public and proved they are workable individual . And , they will work put them together. If not, that
is your method is wrong. How to make the project to the optimum state,
that is our know how. Of course, we will seek the optimum element in
cost-effective. The flexibility of selection each element is huge. And,
please note that develop each element is not our special skill.

http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/diypower-boat

[windboat]

For the mean annual wind speed small area. We have this vertical axis windturbine . The windturbine cut in speed is low.

[Boston]

Originally Posted by backyardbil

They did do it. But wern't the first. I think that's what Boston means.
Despite not being the first, they were very eager to take the credit when some of the media (not knowing the history of the subject) started to accord them the title of "inventors" and therefore they sought to gain the glory. Only belatedly did they acknowledge their idea was not original. In fact, Spork can be quoted from another forum (Merlin Rocket) that he "conceived the idea" and writes an article of how he evolved it without even mentioning other researchers. In fact the matter had been discussed in the relevant circles for many years.
However, the record shows that a working model made by Jack Goodman(which was later demonstrated on Youtube) was described in AYRS "Catalyst" in January 2006, but that the matter was not suggested by Spork on an r/c forum (or similar) until April of that year.

I say let em freak, they may have been technically correct on some minor irrelevancy but the lack of integrity, the failure to adhere to any ethical standards, the lies and the false claims they bring, will follow them forever. Take all the points any of you want, I have no intention of responding with the same cheap anonymous shots as the liars and thieves in the group. Some of us hold ourselves to a higher standard. Some of us will always point out when a moral standard or ethical norm has been violated. The value of any work begins with the integrity of the author. The lies are demonstrable, the false claims are self evident and the deliberate efforts to antagonize rather than provide the promised explanations is obvious. Clearly there is a psychoses involved that had nothing to do with education but instead some form of twisted self gratification. A psychosis clearly devoid of the professional help it begs for. Freak out, insult, rave, rant, wallow in that ego, but eventually some of you will realize that lying cheating and stealing can only result in failure.

I"ll take my lumps any day as long as I can look back and know beyond any doubt I stood up. Pointed out the liars in the squad. Exposed the thieves. Took the higher ground. Yup I was wrong about the technical reality of DDWFTTW but I didn't lie, didn't cheat, didn't make false claims, and didn't take credit for someone elses achievements.

My kids can read this thread and know that old Dad admitted when he was wrong and still held himself to a higher standard, I wonder if your kids could do the same.

[spork]

Originally Posted by Boston

they may have been technically correct on some minor irrelevancy but the lack of integrity, the failure to adhere to any ethical standards, the lies and the false claims they bring, will follow them forever.

We showed not one spec of lack of integrity. We never lied, and we went out of our way to point out that we were not the first with this idea. It's all over the place. You insist on continuing to lie about us for no reason but that you feel butt-hurt about being so wrong and treating us like **** in the process.

Take all the points any of you want, I have no intention of responding with the same cheap anonymous shots as the liars and thieves in the group.

YOU are the ONLY liar in this group. The record is right here on this forum:
The Wind Powered Sail-less Boat

Let your kids read that. They can start with my first post on the forum and read your response to me.

Some of us hold ourselves to a higher standard.

Your "higher standard" is to simply tell vicious lies.

The lies are demonstrable...

Yes they are. And they're all yours. Please find a single lie from me or JB.

Clearly there is a psychoses involved that had nothing to do with education but instead some form of twisted self gratification.

Yes, there is clearly a psychosis involved (learn to spell by the way). I think anyone will clearly see the psychosis when they start right here at the beginning:

The Wind Powered Sail-less Boat

I"ll take my lumps any day as long as I can look back and know beyond any doubt I stood up.

Yes, you stood up and lied about someone with NO provocation. You attacked our integrity for no reason. And now you're back to tell more lies. Please have your kids read the thread from where I entered it.

Took the higher ground.... but I didn't lie, didn't cheat, didn't make false claims, and didn't take credit for someone elses achievements.

There is something horribly wrong with you.

My kids can read this thread and know that old Dad admitted when he was wrong and still held himself to a higher standard...

You can't imagine how sorry I feel for your kids.

ETA: I was wrong when I said Boston was the ONLY liar. Backyardbil clearly lied as well when he said: "Despite not being the first, they were very eager to take the credit when some of the media (not knowing the history of the subject) started to accord them the title of "inventors" " And of course we can PROVE that these guys lie.

[spork]

You guys don't want this **** in the thread? Talk to the guy that insists on attacking us then! Don't tell me I can't defend myself where these lies and attacks are posted. Report this P.O.S. to the mods if you want it to stop. I have NOTHING to say here except to defend myself against malicious lies.

[Submarine Tom]

So, what is the point of this thread now?

I've been away from it for some time and it just looks like garbage now.

Am I missing something or am I correct.

-Tom

[spork]

Originally Posted by Submarine Tom

So, what is the point of this thread now?

I've been away from it for some time and it just looks like garbage now.

Am I missing something or am I correct.

Yes, it's garbage now. As long as you have a troll here that insists on spewing lies attacking our integrity, intelligence, and character, I guess it will stay garbage. He did the same thing on the original thread. I believe the moderators finally locked him out of that thread - but I'm not certain. If they stop him on this thread I will have no need to defend myself against his completely untrue attacks, and you have your forum back. Pretty simple.

[Boat Design Net Moderator]

Originally Posted by Submarine Tom

So, what is the point of this thread now?

I've been away from it for some time and it just looks like garbage now.

Am I missing something or am I correct.

-Tom

Agreed. Closing the thread now since the last page contains nothing related to boat design.