Bruce Roberts Designs

[Boston]

no
because huge multinational corporations they went in with bull dossers and dynamite and leveled the town to make room for there hideously huge casino's

not one surviving building
it was tragic to the people who lived there
poor ignorant sots had no idea what was about to happen
oh the PR campain
you should have heard it
lots of mom and pop old time salloons
I remember the whole thing and didn't buy a word of it

I lived just down the road in a town of less than 100 people called Ward

oops

we return you to your regularly scheduled topic
sorry
I got carried away

talkative bastard that I am tend to get carried away from time to time

cheers
B

[Paul No Boat]

OMG Boston I spent a summer in Boulder in about 1971 and Ward was where we rode our motorcycles to have breakfast at a little cafe there. Can't for the life of me remember the name.

I can certainly appreciate your passion on this topic. I have seen what they do.

I took some classes at a university just down the road from a big casino and about the time the student loan checks were dispersed the casino would have a big campaign to get the kids to come by ignoring the drinking age laws.

I was an older student but they would gleefully tell me. "That place is run by the nicest people, they give us free drinks." and I would shake my head "They are not nice people giving you free drinks, they are evil people getting you drunk and taking away your money" I could not count the number of kids I saw go home broke, in debt, with no education.

the stories go on and on, don't they?

[Boston]

they do and its criminal
it was hard enough to work my way through school
being half native american I have to resist drinking to much
so it was hard to run a biz and attend classes

I lived in boulder from about 1984 to about 1995
then moved up into the mountains to ward were I lived for about 3 years while I stumbled into house after house to build

used to go partying up at the old school house in rolinsville with "left over salmon" also known as the "string cheese incident"

the old mill house just down the hill is still a big draw although the building kinda scares me cause its about to fall over and yet they bring in these whopping PA systems and vibrate the hell out of it

was that old cafe the one on the left as you head up the hill through town
same side as the post office
or was it the one on the right
next to the general store

The old Cafe on the left is now owned by a real scum bag, lets just say nearly every kid in town is up on drug charges and pretty much hooked on something or another. no one who knows any better really goes in there any more and the place is a wreck

the old cafe on the right is still there but its the arts and crafts section of the general store now

not really serving breakfast any more

the preacher opened up a breakfast place in the new church though and dam
can that boy cook

its on the right just up from the junk yard

Remember old Fuzzy the not official town cop
or Norm the other not so official town cop

Justice in a small town is an interesting proposition
not sure what you know about Ward but it was an interesting place
and I could tell you some real stories about dealing with jackasses up there
basically in the three years I was there more than one person got marched to the end of town and sent packing
best not to return

I love that place and still go visit friends there whenever I can

[Paul No Boat]

It was so long ago I honestly don't remember the exact location of the cafe. It was on the "uphill side" of town tho with its back toward the divide, if that helps. Ward was pretty much a run down ghost town at the time as was much of Colorado in 1971 and in retrospect a person could have made a fortune buying up old properties. I thought thirty five thousand for 20 acres just outside Boulder was a rediculous price. What would that sell for now?

I am sorry to hear about the heritage lost to the casinos there. We have the same encroachment here in Indiana, but in a few cases it has paid for some astounding renovations. The old West Baden Springs Hotel where Al Capone used to go to gamble is a paradise of gardens, artwork and architecture costing in the hundreds of millions to bring back to pristine condition.

As long as gambling is optional I guess I don't really have anything to say about it. What scares me is that in small towns with volunteer fire departments etc, the responce by municiple services are based on who is in the inner circle. and the way in is by attending friday night bingo at the fire station. If you don't donate or gamble, they might just ignore your burning house. Sad but true in a corrupt local government. The irony being that since Indiana is a "bible belt" state people swore 15 years ago we would never have gambling since the bible specifically condemns the casting of lots. But then someone did a study on how much money could be made and that page of the scripture was torn out.

Just be glad you are not a victim of it and devote your time to boat building, a pastime with few sins involved. At least from my viewpoint.

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Paul No Boat

It was so long ago I honestly don't remember the exact location of the cafe. It was on the "uphill side" of town tho with its back toward the divide, if that helps. Ward was pretty much a run down ghost town at the time as was much of Colorado in 1971 and in retrospect a person could have made a fortune buying up old properties. I thought thirty five thousand for 20 acres just outside Boulder was a rediculous price. What would that sell for now?

I am sorry to hear about the heritage lost to the casinos there. We have the same encroachment here in Indiana, but in a few cases it has paid for some astounding renovations. The old West Baden Springs Hotel where Al Capone used to go to gamble is a paradise of gardens, artwork and architecture costing in the hundreds of millions to bring back to pristine condition.

As long as gambling is optional I guess I don't really have anything to say about it. What scares me is that in small towns with volunteer fire departments etc, the responce by municiple services are based on who is in the inner circle. and the way in is by attending friday night bingo at the fire station. If you don't donate or gamble, they might just ignore your burning house. Sad but true in a corrupt local government. The irony being that since Indiana is a "bible belt" state people swore 15 years ago we would never have gambling since the bible specifically condemns the casting of lots. But then someone did a study on how much money could be made and that page of the scripture was torn out.

Just be glad you are not a victim of it and devote your time to boat building, a pastime with few sins involved. At least from my viewpoint.

It's been my experience that boatbuilding is a good way to stay out of trouble...it simply doesn't leave you much time or energy for sinning....

I have an ex-wife somewhere in Colorado; probably somewhere around Grand Junction. Met her in Montrose...I unofficially gave her the entire state of Colorado in the divorce settlement. I've never been back, and as far as I know she's never left.

[Paul No Boat]

or money sinning is expensive!!

Boston, if you have a little time on your hands, sometime take the Amtrak California Zepher to Grand Junction or Salt Lake City and back . It's a great way to relax and the food ain't bad either.

My ex lives in Seattle and my daughter cooks at a nice restaurant within sight of Puget Sound and feeds a well off yachting clientel. I call her my Cheeseburger in Paradise. LOL and she's catered a few charter parties.

The downside is that Dear Old Dad is now addicted to boats. Can't wait to take my granddaughter out for a day of whale watching. I go on Puget Sound Express from Port Townsend, operated by the Hanke family who originally owned The Alcyone, a 65' schooner . Nice folks and the coffee cake is wonderful.

[SheetWise]

Originally Posted by troy2000

I have an ex-wife somewhere in Colorado; probably somewhere around Grand Junction. Met her in Montrose...I unofficially gave her the entire state of Colorado in the divorce settlement. I've never been back, and as far as I know she's never left.

I hope you also sent her a 1099.

[Boston]

ah
that ones not actually in the town
its top of the hill to the right off peak to peak hwy
cant recall the name of it at the moment but its still there
after the old saloon fell down it got more popular and now it has new owners
don't know them but they own that big horse ranch a few miles north past America st. Nice folks, Ive spoken to them a few times but dont really know them.

I drive that loop sometimes but for train rides the old steam train out of George town is the best in the state. The old cast iron bridge is spectacular unless its windy and then sometimes they dont even run the train.

for as much as I like Colorado Im dying to sail into Ketchikan and explore Alaska for a few years. Spend my winters in the Seattle area

if I could afford the big boat I could maybe do charters till I got sick of it or until I felt a dying urge to throw someone overboard

cheers
B