Book Reviews?

[dennisolcott]

Has anyone read or have either of the following books:

Naval Architecture of Planing Hulls by Lord
Design of High Speed Boats: Planing by Payne
Hydrodynamics of High-Speed Marine Vehicles by Faltinsen

I'm hoping for a general book review, and if possible, whether they include detailed calculation methods (like Savitsky) for planing boats - power required, effect of beam/deadrise/CG location, etc.

Related, is there a commonly available book that gives the engineering equations, etc. for power prediction of planing boats, including the effects of deadrise, beam, CG location, etc.? I've asked several people/websites and keep coming up empty.

Thanks!

[duluthboats]

Dave Gerr has a good book, The Nature of Boats, if you don’t have it you should. You may find many of your questions answered.
http://www.gerrmarine.com/books.html

Ted Brewer has most of his book on his web site. The book is worth the cost. http://www.tedbrewer.com/yachtdesign.html

I have reviewed a few books on this site and hope to see others.

Gary

[Guillermo]

Originally Posted by dennisolcott

Related, is there a commonly available book that gives the engineering equations, etc. for power prediction of planing boats, including the effects of deadrise, beam, CG location, etc.? I've asked several people/websites and keep coming up empty.

Thanks!

I have several at my office. On monday I'll post their titles and authors.
Cheers.

[Tad]

Dennis,

Lord's book is completely outdated, interesting only from a historic perspective. Most of it was written in the Second World War, (lightly revised for subsequent editions) 20 years before Savitsky first published.

The Payne I have not seen and can't find any info on?

The Faltinsen book looks to be the most recent and complete coverage of the subject, published 2 months ago, I just ordered a copy and we'll see. It does mention the Savitsky equations in the contents.

Currently the Principals of Yacht Design (2nd ed) by Larsson & Eliasson has good coverage of the Savitsky equations for power prediction of high speed hulls. The Savitsky papers themselves are (I believe) available on a Small Vessel CD from SNAME. Also there is a good spreadsheet using Savitsky's work available someplace in this forum.

All the best, Tad

[dennisolcott]

Tad, Guillermo, Gary:

Thanks for your comments. I'm anxious to hear what you find out, especially about the new Faltinson book. I do have Gerr (actually, all 3 of his books) and although nice, they seem to be written more as first year college books designed to give someone an introduction, rather than as Junior/Senior level texts explaining the details. Since I really like his books, I emailed Gerr at Westlawn hoping for more advanced recommendations, but didn't hear back - maybe I got his email wrong? I'll go find Larsson and Eliasson as suggested.

Note that the SNAME Small Boat CD does NOT have any pre-1985 books per Rich Mouk at SNAME. And buying the three most commonly referenced papers for this (Savitsky 1964, 1976 and Blount/Fox 1976) costs more than the whole CD with 300+ papers!!! Crazy.

I found a copy of Lord's book for $12 - haven't got it yet, but I suspected it would be pretty outdated.

Look for Payne at Amazon.com. It was meant to be part of a series that never materialized.

Thanks!

[Guillermo]

I have:
- Naval Architecture of Planning Hulls, Lindsay Lord.
- Cruceros y Lanchas Veloces, Juan Baader.
- High Speed Small Craft, Peter du Cane.
- Proyecto de Embarcaciones a Motor, Ricardo Martín Domínguez.

All of them are oldies but enough for what I need, mainly fishing boats. They cover power prediction of planing boats, and discuss effects of deadrise, beam, CG location, etc.

Just ordered Faltinsen's book to Cambridge University. I didn't knew it.

[Raggi_Thor]

Originally Posted by dennisolcott

Has anyone read or have either of the following books:
Naval Architecture of Planing Hulls by Lord ..
Thanks!

I have that one in my shelf,
it gave me a better understanding of planing boats, but it's probably a bit "out of date". I have the third edition from 1963. It was for sale at the university library :-)

[Tad]

Hydrodynamics of High-Speed Marine Vehicles
By Odd M. Faltinsen
Published by Cambridge University Press 2005
Hardback, 454 pages

As author of the previous textbook Sea Loads on Ships and Offshore Structures, more than 200 scientific papers, and Professor of Marine Hydrodynamics at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology for over 30 years, Professor Faltinsen is hugely qualified to put together this book.

Hydrodynamics of High-Speed Marine Vehicles covers the three main modes of high-speed marine travel, submerged hulls, air cushion supported vessels, and foil supported vessels. Starting from basic concepts in resistance, propulsion, waves, seakeeping, and maneuvering, he works through the theory, examples, and exercises in each area. It is well illustrated with graphs and diagrams throughout.

Main chapters include the introduction with an informative discussion of operational limits. Chapter 2 covers Resistance and Propulsion including water, air, spray, and wave resistance, and propellers and waterjets. Chapters 3 and 4 cover waves and wave resistance in depth including shallow and deep water and multihulls in waves. Chapter 5 covers Surface Effect Ships including specific design of air bags and seals. Chapter 6 is Hydrofoil vessels and foil theory including 2 and 3D flow in steady and unsteady states. Chapter 7 is Semi-Displacement Vessels covering mono and multihulls with emphasis on seakeeping and motion. Chapter 8 covers Slamming, Whipping, and Springing including study of hydroelastic effects. Chapter 9 is Planing Vessels covering all the required calculations, resistance, powering, trim, dynamic stability, seakeeping, and maneuvering. And Chapter 10 covers Maneuvering in great depth including mono and multihulls.

This is not, in my opinion, a “how to” design high-speed vessels manual. It would be of little use to a neophyte interested in designing high-speed boats, though it would certainly be of interest to the technically inclined. Rather I see it as extremely useful in predicting, calculating, and analyzing hydrodynamic factors of various specific hulls and high-speed marine systems. The formulas and examples will be used by me mostly in comparing (at the mathematical model level) a series of slight variations of a specific vessel or specific vessel’s characteristics.

Currently my work covers Semi-displacement and planning hulls, and these areas of the book are of direct use starting today. While I am not currently involved in foil or air cushion born vessels, these are growth areas and I see the book becoming a valuable reference in the future. The 13 page list of references is probably worth the price of the book. The only shortcoming I can find so far is that the index sees a bit sparse, but we’ll see how that goes as the list of contents is very complete. Well worth the price of admission, and vital for any serious student of high-speed marine vehicles.

All the best, Tad

[Raggi_Thor]

Originally Posted by Tad

Hydrodynamics of High-Speed Marine Vehicles
By Odd M. Faltinsen...

Hey, that's my old teacher :-)

[dennisolcott]

Tad:

Thanks for the book review! Do chapters 3 and 9 include the actual equations to complete the resistance and trim calculations including the effect of changes in beam, LCG, deadrise, etc.? I am an engineer, although I work in a different field, so I've specifically been looking for a more technical reference for planing boats.

Thanks!
D

[Tad]

Dennis,

Yes, I believe any and all relevant equations are in the book, not only that but all the background equations pertaining to the calculation of each of those factors you ask about. But I warn anyone that it is dense and you will have to work to extract the "design" factors. Then you will have to arrive at your own method to vary and compare each factor's effect on a given hull and thus it's performance. Hydrodynamics of High-Speed Marine Vehicles is a technical reference, not a boat design manual.

One of the better references I have found on variations in a planing hull and the effect thereof is a paper called Reflections on Planing Hull Technology by Donald L. Blount published in the 5th Biennial SNAME Power Boat Symposium in 1993.

Tad

[Willallison]

A quick search of the SNAME Papers failed to turn that one up Tad - do you know if it's available?

[Tad]

Will,

I have it in a soft cover bound collection of all papers presented at the symposium, 12 in total. The book states that for further copies contact SNAME Southeast Section, in Miami, Florida. Alternatively you could try contacting Mr. Blount at his office for a copy of the individual paper.


Tad

[Willallison]

Thanks Tad - I may even see if he'd be happy for it to be posted on this site so it can benefit us all.....

[dennisolcott]

I've been borrowing books/papers through inter-library loan - generally working pretty well. I just got Faltinsen's book on a loan - exactly what I was looking for and I'll likely buy it. Equations and everything!

I also just got a copy of Blount's 1993 paper but haven't read it yet.

Interlibrary loan fell through on Payne's book - haven't heard from anyone who has seen it.

I finally received my $12 copy of Lord's book - 1946 edition. Fun from a historical perspective, but not very "scientific" for lack of a better term.