Boat for HARD conditions

[Sudarikov]

Hello everybody

First of all, sorry for my English. I have a project of a boat for hard climate conditions. My task is to design a boat for hunters, gold seekers, travelers etc… It has to be good on the river and in the sea. It will be used on frost and during hot summer. It will be used in Russia.

Now, I am working with research. I have to understand what does designers and builders from Scandinavia, Canada, Alaska and other northern countries do.

May be some one gives me any info about river-sea boats. I need any info and any pictures of boats used in such conditions.

Thank you!

[mcollins07]

What size do you envision?
Is it trailerable? Can one or two men carry it?

How will this boat be propelled? Does it have a motor, sails, yuhol?

[Sudarikov]

I think it will be near 20m. Possibly it will have two inside engines. It is for 6 men. 2 or 3 rooms with showers. Comfort level high

but it is just a variant

[Bergalia]

Sudarikov - contact your local fishing fleet manager. The big factory ships - we called them Klondikers in the west of Scotland - used to carry 'lifeboats' which sound ideal for your purpose. About 20 metres long, twin engined and the hulls were a complete 'wraparound' if you can imagine an elongated walnut shell. Weatherproof and as near storm proof as dammit. Saw them working in the Minches carrying provisions to the 'mother ships' from the mainland. Point is I believe at least two of the factory ships are now laid up somewhere in the Baltic. But good luck with your search.

[kach22i]

If you are willing to think outside the box, how about a hovercraft?

Russian:
http://www.hovercraft.ru/argo_en.html



American (Sevtec):
http://www.amphibiousmarine.com/index.html



Custom Sevtec hovercraft dredging for gold:
http://members.aol.com/hovtec/hover/BUILDJ.html

EDIT: In the North to Alaska article about the Sevtec they describe taking on 15 foot waves, close to shore without fear of bottoming out like a boat would. That and operating on ice and in shallow rivers is why I've offered and will continue to offer the subject of hovercaft as an alternate to be seriously considered by boaters everywhere.

[Sudarikov]

Interresting idea!!!
How do u think, is it possible to make hovercraft comfortable? Are engins loud? What is the max light of them? Is it possible to make 2 flors? What is the max speed and the wight of way withot refilling?

[Sudarikov]

May be some one can give advice about SPECIAL parts for hard conditions? May be antifrost mechanism. Or dors for cold climate... etc
I am very glad, friends to get your info! Thank you

[Sudarikov]

Bergalia, i did not exectly understand about "complete 'wraparound' if you can imagine an elongated walnut shell". It is interresting! Can you discuss more please?

Where are you Murmansk?
you have your PM IM disabled
Poka

Originally Posted by Sudarikov

Bergalia, i did not exectly understand about "complete 'wraparound' if you can imagine an elongated walnut shell". It is interresting! Can you discuss more please?

i would build aluminum, quick to build, cold does not effect it, 4 inches sprayed polyurathane foam to hull, thick plates
And here you have case for hamilton water jet, da!!
what sped woulkd you liike to achieve, river sea?

[Sudarikov]

Privet, Jack, I'm from Moscow Hi everyone!
Nice idea using alluminium. And what about construction elements? This is my diploma work. I am looking for bright ideas to use in my boat. I want to combine info of the boats for such condition.

my boat is 14-15m, Rooms: 3+1, high comfort level, 2 engines. For hard climate. Hull possible alluminium May be it is a hovercraft.
If you know any analogs show me please!!!

[Sudarikov]

DO some one know any ship yards of canada, alaska, finland etc. or yards which build boats for this countries? I would like to see what guys from there do

[monrosm@shrewsb]

Lazeyjack, aluminium is a nice idea but could be lacking in strength and hardness on sea ice, why not substitute the aluminium for Duralumin, much stronger and harder, not much heavier, but does cost a little more.

[Sudarikov]

Hi gues!!!

i made a model of my diploma ship!
I need your advices! It is rood for a wile, but i work about this.

Thank you!!!

[Sudarikov]

TECHNICAL DATA

Loa 17m (55 feet)
Max beam 5m

Passengers 6-8 people
Cabins 3+1 or 4
Boat can be drived by owner or by crew

3 shower cabins

Editional weight 1000 kilos to transport on aboard.

Special conditions:
Could move in the crushed ice
Opening parts for hot and cold weather.
Integrated raft or (&) jet ski
Ability to tug
Wraparound fender
The front will open to let people go in and out anywhere
Washing machine

Fuel tank 2100 litres. Water tank 120 x 8 x 7 = 6730 liters (every person will consume about 120 liters per day. Needed for a week). Or 600 litres + water cleaning system

Engines in board
Desiel dose. Propeller

Top speed 30-40 knots

Build material
Hull is made of steel. Superstructure is made with resistant polycarbonate (ploycarbonate is good for insulation because it does not conduct heat or cold very well) or fiber glass. Windows – double glass. Deck is made of teak.

2 emergency life rafts one on each side

Hull: flat bottom, or shallow v shape, or catamaran. Quite square. Its going to be good in rivers and OK at sea.

Opening parts
Back dors are sliding, opening parts of corpus are built in car design principes. Electricly sliding. Back part of boat has pod for raft. The front will open to let people go in and out anywhere

Comfort level
First variant - basicly spartanian
Second variant - hi level of comfort
Style
Style is built from functions. Analog Hummer. Going to look military in shape.

Range, how far will it need to go
500 miles with about 1000 gallons

Storage for food
For a week