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Old 05-23-2006, 05:31 AM
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diesel always better:
CRM motori W18 cyl http://www.crmmotori.biz/w18.htm
I do not see the advances with heavy diesels in this design.

v18 diesel:
2400kg - 1650Hp

vs gasturbine:
285kg(+trans) - 2200Hp

Fuel consumtion about 230g/Hp at full speed are about the same for both.
Total weight be around 6-7 tons with turbines (+ extra 3,5 tons with diesels)
Boat dimensions are 2,80m X 16,75m
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:44 AM
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We are talking about a future pleasure boat with a production in mind, even in a small number, or we are talking about a single dreaming piece, to be post in a museum after just a sea trial for magazine (see Wally 118 ft)?
Anyway interesting diesel, no?
Actually this engine it is too incredible that need a boat to be designed around it; isn't an engine to be choose just because suitable to fit in an existing design.
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:56 AM
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We are talking about a future pleasure boat with a production in mind, even in a small number, or we are talking about a single dreaming piece, to be post in a museum after just a sea trial for magazine (see Wally 118 ft)?
Anyway interesting diesel, no?
Actually this engine it is too incredible that need a boat to be designed around it; isn't an engine to be choose just because suitable to fit in an existing design.
1. Yes,for sure it be a very limited production...museums? Why not?
2. The CRM engine is a piece of art and it have to be a great design around it...nothing is impossible!
Anyone interested? We make it...
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:57 AM
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I prefere boats that run ... in water.
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:09 AM
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You right SC1...go on...with this project!

No diesel engine can compete agains gas turbine obviously.
This is not a common design but you must see it as a. "object of marine art".

I love it!
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:23 AM
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"marine exaggeration" isn't always a "marine art".
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:41 AM
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that may be so but what is IT that makes us fall for maritime torture anyway while we can drive and fly?
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:48 AM
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???...it is a torture for You ?!?
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:52 AM
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that may be so but what is IT that makes us fall for maritime torture anyway while we can drive and fly?
IT could be the taste of salty water in combination with feeling the wind blowin in your hair
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Old 05-23-2006, 01:19 PM
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exactly and the best comes expensive
pain and joy illustrated altho virtool did have a free download torturing me rite now
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Old 05-23-2006, 02:28 PM
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Funny, thanks Yipster!

What is maritime art?

This boat is Art...bella...bella...beautiful
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went to art academy but whats art? can we call this 3D car modern art?
now if somehow we can drive miss sweden to fire up i would say its maritme art
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I mean that if this superboat will be constructed in the future...it will be a "maritime piece of Art", nothing to do with 3D imagine.

Anyway the Cisitalia car constructed in Italy in the 50' is permanenet exposed at the MoMa of New York because is a piece of Art...why not this superboat?
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fully agree on that, was thinking she needs more drawings and why not a need for speed miss sweden but havent MS.nmo and MSII.vmo interactive running yet
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I mean that if this superboat will be constructed in the future...it will be a "maritime piece of Art", nothing to do with 3D imagine.

Anyway the Cisitalia car constructed in Italy in the 50' is permanenet exposed at the MoMa of New York because is a piece of Art...why not this superboat?
Just my opinion: There are many reasons why a Cisitalia is on a museum, not just because was a beautiful car. One of these ("ONE OF THESE") reasons is that it made a turn on the story of the automotive design and production, and this isn't a little.

"Self-criticism is an art not many are qualified to practice" (Joyce Carol Oates).
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