anyone have

[ted655]

All that &**&% tax money we paid to get those satellites up there & you want a sextant???? If you want to be that "retro", build one!

I suppose you want to borrow my copy of Duttons also?

[longliner45]

govt facillilitys are really poorly operated ,,most times loran towers used to go out regularly,,,,I dont want to depend on the govt for anything,,,,,,no pun intended but look at the New Orleans resque operation,,how could that have been botch so bad ,,cmon ,,reporters getting there in 4 wheel drive trucks ,,but military vehicals couldent ,,,,,no helos no food and water for weeks,cant count on no one ,,,,,,,,,longliner

[Landlubber]

I would still take the *@*tant to sea, who knows when the sats will be down. I was off New Caledonia once (during the Gulf War) and my 40 footer was showing 70 knots on the display, kind of fast I thought, so abandoned the rest of the messages too. Upon arrival into Noumea, the HarbourMaster informed me that we were at war with Iraq, and the satelites had been shut down for civy use.......the *@*tant was not actually used then, but it was still nice as a backup to the Furuno RDF (that I still have too, oh yeah Frosty, it does use batteries!!!!).

Just on another note, has anyone out there on planet earth actually been able to consistantly get anything better than about 5 miles using one on a yacht? I sat once in very calm waters in Fiji (Maloola Lie Lie island) and you can see the horizon from the anchorage, tried for days to do any better but to no avail. I reckon those that calaim to do 2-3 miles regularly are up themselves. However, 5 miles certainly takes you from navitating to piloting, so visuals come back into the game, and they are very hard to beat. Just wondering.......

[Frosty]

5 miles? you did well there, I can do about 50, which is not much good trying to get into harbour but adrift in the Atlantic in a dinghy!!

By the way did you know that the Azimuth in Hong Kong is about 20 minutes passed 12 noon. I know I know, --the "about" bit is not good enough.

[Kay9]

Weems and Path, C-Plath make some...Make sure you get the artificial horizion bubble, also you will need HO-249

Lets see here are some links.
http://www.landfallnavigation.com/celnav.html
http://celestaire.com/page11.html

[Landlubber]

For those interested, there are other tables beside 229 and 249.
Martelles tables are a very simple book, sure it is not as accurate as the air or sea tables, but , hey, they are a snack to use, and as state before, you are not going to do better than about 5 miles anyhow, these tables are sure better than that. have a gander if you do not have a copy.