Affordable seaworthy cruiser

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  1. MikeJohns
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    Presumably that's a hollow rudder shaft !



    Bearings are commonly turned from a round bar of vesconite or UHMWPE or similar by a machine shop for around $80 a bearing here. But there are a few suppliers of stock sizes (tube) . You won't need a stuffing box if you use bearings and fill the port with grease and carry the port say 250mm above the waterline.
     
  2. SamSam
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    He's talking about the rudder shaft.
     
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    Whoops. Don't know what I was thinking! Enjoyed a late lunch too much today and all the blood rushed away from my brain :( Sorry.
     
  4. Emerson White
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    Did you plank one side completely before planking the other? Is your strong back still true, or did you just set it out by loading a giant wooden spring on one side with nothing on the other side to oppose it?
     
  5. goodwilltoall
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    Greetings,
     

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    Have to add sail rig into displacement.

    Peace.
     
  7. pdwiley
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    Yes it will work. Make sure the top of the rudder tube is at least 450mm above the DWL if it terminates inside the hull space.

    I fitted a machined plastic bushing to the top of my rudder tube.

    PDW
     
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    Really? Maybe I should reconsider my determination to never do machining for other people. Talk about money for jam.....

    PDW
     
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    Bugger .... there goes my cheap machining shop :rolleyes:
     
  10. goodwilltoall
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    Greetings,

    Still working on 50, but have other ideas in affordable/seaworthy catagory. Enjoy designing and working as a boatdesigner so you have to be able to multitask.

    This could be reduced to a 30' but wanted long 15-1 LB ratios. Its the basis for a forthcoming design so would have more calculations to perform- tabernacle design, SA, displacement, CB. Probably need fuller ends.

    Has postive 24" deck clearance, side decks are SS rigid mesh which might splash up during rough rides but think it would just seem more exciting as hatches are ontop of hull rather than in the sides, also like the idea of seeing water below, if it dont work regular decking planks can be installed.

    Hulls are for berthing and give about 3.25' of headroom but with oversized hatches can also have padded seats set up on cleats to give a view just above hull deck level with canopy spread out for rain/shade. Head is within seat/beam and shower would be at 3'x3' gunboat type forward area which is really for safely handling sails but can have curtain for offshore use or canvas work done while in more public moorings. Safety lines all around.

    Thought about this idea while working on my own boat for purposes of building smaller hulls and beams which would make it more managable for a beginner eventhough overall it would be more work. Major components can be built quicker and mre easily brought to a launching site and completed there. Also considered areas like NE Ohio which have many areas to dock that are more affordable but have to be reached going through shallows and under bridges.

    Slider proved single board will work for lateral area so added only one large CB. Crossed alot of lines in plans for details but it should be decipherable. Still working briskly but get ideas and sometimes want to begin drawing, have one more design idea for a coastal triloboat style boat and then hope thats it for awhile.

    Peace.
     

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    Education and experience would be great too!

    Wouldn't beginner be better of getting plans for a proven design for a boat that has been successfully built before and at least designed by a person who has lets say... sailing experience... and/or maybe education in naval architecture, engineering or equivalent???


    You are fine and well to spend your own money in idiotic projects but when you start suggesting that others would/could/should follow your plans it gets to be on another scale of crazy and irresponsible.


    :confused::confused::confused:
     
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    I knew that family and worked on the boat at Hunter's Point in San Francisco. How did you know Steve (Seagull) and Janet Lacey?
     
  14. goodwilltoall
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    Greetings,

    Forgot how to start new thread so posting here, will upload new concept to here anyways.

    Last week during the Feast of Trumpets rode along Lake Erie and stopped at museaums in Erie and Buffalo, dissappointed by the displays but did find two almost identical open boats about 30'x8', centerboards, twin masted, and oar power available, one docked in each town.

    Thinking about those two boats drew a rough sketch based on birdwatcher principles that would be 48'x8' and plan to finish final "concept" drawing tomorrow, somewhere on the web found mention of "Tillie Howard" a sharpie by William Garden thats almost exact size - 46'x8' and an open boat as well.

    Hope to get actual book later this week, does anyone have more info on this boat? A small snipet on google mentions air tanks because of swamping.
     

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    Greetings,
     

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