Affordable seaworthy cruiser

[Pierre R]

Originally Posted by goodwilltoall

Pierre,

The Ray Hunt sailboats are totally vertical sided and flat bottomed, the only difference is that at the chine there is about a 3" radius, and maybe the hull height is more than 60% of hull beam, not sure. Guess that cross section drawing shown in post #1 would be a close approximation to midbody section.

Unless my eyes are deceiving me the Hunt sailboat is not totally vertical on the sides.

Originally Posted by goodwilltoall

Tell us what the wrong opinions are so they can be corrected.

Prime example

The "V" would be the shape the hull would see at the water when sailing heeled, though as Bolger said the efficient heel for this type of hull is 10-15% which wouldnt be much but it would help some.

The things that contribute to a good ride are the very things that you think contribute to a poor ride. Increasing static/ initial stability does not equate to a better ride most of the time. This is a notion that you are rejecting even though its been pointed out. Ride is a peceived motion on the body and not an absolute. In addition to static stability, which most people understand, there is also dynamic stability and ultimate stability.

[goodwilltoall]

Another description of boat use would be to limit stops at marina's. If proper provisioning is made for long journeys the more secluded areas would become favourable destinations. With collecting water on the hull, selfcomposting head with urine and hard waste seperated, and occasionally fishing this can become a reality for upto several months of cruising. With the shallow draft capabilities, natives to areas like the Bahamas would be encountered more often and regular one on one trading patterns could be developed with them.

Would like to add more space and displacement but the design is filled up with most of the necessary requirements.

Once the sail and ballast system is settled a simple build can commence that perhaps a couple with small children can easily afford and if smartly handled (with off course good seamanship skills) should be able to provide the qualities as mentioned at beginning of thread -Safe, affordable, and seaworthy.

Once boat is built incremental testing of designed qualities can be proven, with looking at predecesor boats of similiar design, good results can be expected. This in not all that new and can be done.

Originally Posted by goodwilltoall

Apex,

Tell us what the wrong opinions are so they can be corrected. There are many descriptions describing what the boat would be used for in previous posts, what else do you want to know about the intended purposes?

What is the meaning of "oviparouswoolpig"?
Also dont know what the acronym SOR stands for.

Well,

following the advice is always a better choice than drivelling on!

So read what our patient and knowledgable members told you, and follow the links, it is easy to grasp, even for a completely biased novice like you!

With the shallow draft capabilities, natives to areas like the Bahamas would be encountered more often and regular one on one trading patterns could be developed with them.

I laugh my socks off............. natives...Bahamas...

The former post shows again, you are still just dreaming and have near to zero experience at sea, less on boat building and even far less on boat design. So why don´t you go to the thread I linked to?

And "Oviparouswoolmilkpig" is a self explaining term!

Richard

[Pierre R]

Have at it Goodwill, its your money.

[goodwilltoall]

Pierre,

Understand that increasing static stability does not enhance ride, never rejected that. That is why long length is needed so that static stability can be reduced, and have to go back again to mentioning that long length is not considered often with modern boat design.

When the modern 35' fat hulled design is compared at bottom waterplane, more pounding will be likely to result. They are not completely flat but deadrise is not that great either as some of the broad sterned euroboats show. With modern BWL say 10'-8" compared to jubilee 8'-4" BWL that has to account for more uncomfortable ride especially when overall length of 50'-0" compared to 35'-0" is considered.

Hate to keep beating this around, but long length and narrow beam is proven to offer a better ride.

Originally Posted by Pierre R

Have at it Goodwill, its your money.

Let him go his way...............not worth to waste our time here.

[frank smith]

Why not build the AS39?

[wardd]

Originally Posted by frank smith

Why not build the AS39?

It's what I was thinking

[goodwilltoall]

Apex,

You came back again not to offer anything useful, only to detract. Dont mind having you onboard, it would be good to stay on topic in regards to the design at hand and make some helpful suggestions to work out a better design. If not its better to just excuse yourself from this discussion.

Peace to all.

[frank smith]

Originally Posted by apex1

Let him go his way...............not worth to waste our time here.

No,no , please stay and help .

[frank smith]

Originally Posted by wardd

It's what I was thinking

It would make a nice floating home, and it is a proven design.

[Pierre R]

Originally Posted by frank smith

No,no , please stay and help .

It's falling on deaf ears.

[frank smith]

I dont get the draft . In you opening post you say 5' max . Then you say hull draft of 1'4' and then 19".

You need to get a better idea of what you want, i think.

Originally Posted by Pierre R

It's falling on deaf ears.

S I C...

[DennisRB]

Originally Posted by goodwilltoall

Dennis, where was that picture taken.

Sam, are mast hoops required or can just line be used.

I believe I saw someone post that pic a while ago stating it was on lake Eire. I am not 100%. If so I think you are screwed.