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Old 02-15-2010, 02:22 PM
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50' sloop

I am looking for the design of a 50 to 55' cruising sailboat. I plan to build it strip planked and and veneered, cold molded method. The ideal configuration for me would be pilot house center cockpit, sloop or yawl rigged. Designed for efficient cruising, beam of 14 to 15 feet, cutaway forefoot with fairly full keel to support the bottom of the rudder and to track effectively. I'm on the fence concerning a centerboard and would welcome opinions. I would need the table of offsets for loftiing or I would use the mold patterns if anyone out there has contructed their hull already, sail plan, deck and interior layout. Thanks for any help you can offer. PGCouch
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Old 02-15-2010, 02:42 PM
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I am looking for the design of a 50 to 55' cruising sailboat. I plan to build it strip planked and and veneered, cold molded method. The ideal configuration for me would be pilot house center cockpit, sloop or yawl rigged. Designed for efficient cruising, beam of 14 to 15 feet, cutaway forefoot with fairly full keel to support the bottom of the rudder and to track effectively. I'm on the fence concerning a centerboard and would welcome opinions. I would need the table of offsets for loftiing or I would use the mold patterns if anyone out there has contructed their hull already, sail plan, deck and interior layout. Thanks for any help you can offer. PGCouch
nice choice and good ideas if I may say so
If you go to www.trademe.co.nz you may advertise for dwgs, NZ is still very into cold moulded timber boats or there is avery fine example of centreboarder called Ponsonby scow still winning races 25 years or so after launch , design by Alan Mummery She is in my galleryIf you like look of her get in touch with Mummery , he always gives lines and offsets , I have built a number of his, very fine old seat pants designer, does not use CAD, his sheers are so sweet
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Old 02-15-2010, 04:23 PM
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hull looking like this one? www.fusionschooner.blogspot.com..... but the deck have to be reviewed...
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:33 PM
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Typically the centerboard adds considerable complication, expense, and a huge number of man hours. On a boat this size the board can be fairly large, it may be ballasted, and requires a system to get it up, to put it down and hold it down, plus a safety valve in case you hit something with it. But some must have it to reduce draft....less draft increases cruising areas and really opens up moorage and berthing options.

There are alternatives besides a centerboard.....lifting keels, twin keels, twin centerboards, dagger boards, bilge boards, and leeboards are all possible answers.

You don't mention what the use of this boat is, a round the buoys racer will have a different solution than a round the world cruiser.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:01 PM
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The boat would be use to cruise to the offshore to the Carribean in the winter from the US east coast. The schooner design from fusion schooner is nice but i think it is more suited to be sailed off the wind primarily, not a bad thing after all. I'm looking for a more classic design that can go to weather if need be. I like the chuck paine design of the Morris 56. Classic lines overhung stern to provide bouyancy in a following sea and they look so pleasing. The Mummery design looks interesting but i couldn't find an internet address for him. Thanks to those that replied, I'm new at this forum stuff and I'll keep trying to follow leads to come up with the right shape hull.

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The boat would be use to cruise to the offshore to the Carribean in the winter from the US east coast. The schooner design from fusion schooner is nice but i think it is more suited to be sailed off the wind primarily, not a bad thing after all. I'm looking for a more classic design that can go to weather if need be. I like the chuck paine design of the Morris 56. Classic lines overhung stern to provide bouyancy in a following sea and they look so pleasing. The Mummery design looks interesting but i couldn't find an internet address for him. Thanks to those that replied, I'm new at this forum stuff and I'll keep trying to follow leads to come up with the right shape hull.

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Alan Mummerys schooner is very good to windwards
you can find him in telecom NZ white pages Quay Street Auckland
Naturally I can not post his private detail here
if you have trouble PM here is int article
http://www.classicyacht.org.nz/infus...p?detail_id=35
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