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Old 01-09-2017, 01:50 PM
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16.5 ft tunnel hull

could I build this ? Dillon laker 14 stretched to 16.5ft ? Plans are for a plywood build . I would like to add a topping layer of cedar strips. could this be done?
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Old 01-09-2017, 02:19 PM
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I think it can be done but you should study the new weight distribution and the strength of the new hull. Maybe that leads, I'm not sure, to the need for some other changes.
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Old 01-09-2017, 02:31 PM
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my main concern is how to fasten the cedar strips
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:10 PM
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I understand it but I can assure you that fasten the cedar strips will not help the boat to navigate better.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:12 PM
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the designer says that making it 16 and hanging a 100 merc would be good, my only questions are about fastening the strips
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:48 PM
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Then, why not ask the designer?
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Old 01-09-2017, 04:08 PM
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Why do you want to add cedar strips? To do so will add weight and complication without providing an equivalent advantage. Cedar strips applied over the plywood, or not over plywood, will also require a substantial Fiberglass sheathing.

To apply the strips to plywood use epoxy adhesive. To do the job well, the strips ought to be milled with bead and cove edges. If you insist on using strips then you can build without the plywood. There are a lot of books and articles that detail strip build methods. Explore the net to find those instructions. Many of the finest canoes and kayaks are strip built. One of the many informative books is: Canoecraft by Ted Moores and Marilyn Mohr. The methods and instructions will be useful for what you have in mind.
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:21 PM
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tansl,your not offering any help just roll by and laugh ,no need to stop in and say anything.
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:23 PM
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http://www.dillon-racing.com/Laker14/plans.htm

check this out
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:56 PM
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living on lake nipissing I always loved the look of these

http://www.gieslerboats.ca/Images/nipissing3.jpg

I want to have clear finish on wood and plywood does not have the look I want. fiberglassing over is not going to happen.
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:09 PM
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tansl,your not offering any help just roll by and laugh ,no need to stop in and say anything.
At no time did I want to disrespect you, certainly not. I have mentioned topics that, in my opinion, are very important and, if not studied correctly, could cause you many headaches. It has simply surprised me that, having a designer, you have to resort to this forum to know how to fix the cedar strips. To give you advice on that subject it would be good to know more about the boat and its structure.
I apologize if my words have bothered you, it was not my intention. Good luck with your project.
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:22 PM
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I hope that your last comment and would really rather you never said a damn word
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:39 PM
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Stick some vinyl on, you know, the fake wood look, pick one that looks like cedar strips.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:19 PM
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that's a possible Mr Efficency.
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Old 01-10-2017, 12:26 AM
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You have some things to learn Bumblebeehead.

The clear finish on the stripper that you have referred almost surely has an outer glass sheath, more than likely inside and out. You can have a brilliant clear finish with or without glass. The glass is needed to protect the soft cedar strips and also to keep the hull from leaking like a sieve.

If you use Ocumee or Meranti plywood you can have the elegant mahogany like finish that so many people are fond of. No strips required.

Your best advice is to get the book that I mentioned or a similar one so that you can learn how these things are done.......and also why they are done that way.
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