118 cms. record breaking sailboat and freeship

[mustafaumut]

I want to put a ship bulb with freeship in front of 118 centimeters record breaking sailboat .
Boats design will based to www.famoussmallboats.com , Tom Mcnally , 118 cms atlantic record breaker.
I want to make a trip in winter to Greece , Italy , France and England from Istanbul.
I have very narrow time to use computer and I need your advice to draw this boat. I will publish the design in internet.
Lets break the borders and bend the bush to east 137 degrees.

Best regards ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

[Chickadee]

The smallboat page has some fine designs, but these bulbs!

I see they forgot to mention Laurent Bourgnon (and his brother or friend) who crossed the Atlantic in a Hobbie Cat 18 in 1986.

Med cruising in winter ? No trade winds here ? and the sea can be very short.

[Chickadee]

I really find some designs very attractive (famoussmallboats.com ).. ..the Confucius; Trekka; Acrohc Australis; Père Peinard; Shoal Waters; and some traditionnal; many tend to look like older mini-transats for cruise.

I had an idea this morning: what about an "around the world" race for minis ??

Or better ! Today's mini protos cost as much as a fully equiped 10 meter cruising boat, and that's big money for small boats, so perhaps someone could organize a transat for these 3'-5' buoy-shaped, small sailing things !?

This would be the "Tiny-transat", we could set different classes, say less than 1.5 m, less than 2.5, etc.

What do you think ?

[SamSam]

Originally Posted by mustafaumut

Lets break the borders and bend the bush to east 137 degrees.

Best regards ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac

Mustafa,
Nice exit you made from the other group!
Sam

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boatdesign/message/33834

[Tord]

The problem with Mustafa is that he
doesn't want to learn the basics first,
and the boat has to be ultra-small,
and cost nothing, and yet be built
of fiberglass and epoxy ?!

If one seriously want to do a thing
like that, and still survive, I would build a
wooden-frame boat, similar to
folding kayaks, but with a sizable
keel and portlier, so that one
can access the stores while
afloat!

And unless the trips are less than
6-7 hours in length, one just have
to have stretching/sleeping room.

Sit on a chair, any kind, for more
than eight hours in a row and you'll
know what I mean!

It happens that I sit more than 4 hours
at work in a row, and that is torture,
but I can at least stretch a little!

I would begin with building a model,
with a true-scale doll in it, to see
what works, boat-wise, and otherwise!

Tord

PS A fully decked version of JW's Tender Behind
is about the minimum I can think is doable,
with any kind of room for toilet facilities
and sleeping area :-)!

[lewisboats]

[/quote] I want to make a trip in winter to Greece , Italy , France and England from Istanbul.
I have very narrow time to use computer and I need your advice to draw this boat. I will publish the design in internet.
Lets break the borders and bend the bush to east 137 degrees.

Best regards ,

Mustafa Umut Sarac[/quote]

Say...What happened to the secret police, CIA and the "must escape...only have a few dollars" line of camel droppings you were dumping on Boatdesign group.

Folks have a peek at these then decide for yourself. He got himself banned from boatdesign group for that tirade linked to above.



http://www.tradeturkey.com/search/me...296&objtype=ED
http://www.rtpnet.org/robroy/baidark.../Jul/0126.html
http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/sci.../msg00089.html
http://forums.sae.org/access/dispatch.cgi/terspvc_pf/docProfile/100202/d20050203\173042
http://www.astronomy.net/forums/atm/messages/3584.shtml


One of the links claimed he was an Inventor unfortunately it didn't copy properly. We pretty much determined he drops a question, gets others to figure it out for him, then seems to have invented it himself. His fluency in English seems to vary significantly too.

Steve

[Chickadee]

Ever heard about agitators ? They are not what they pretend to be.

Or should we have a Mustafa vs Samuel-Lewis naval battle ? A reality TV show could provide to competitors with pico-boats, onboard micro-cameras and oranges as ammunition. ..

Originally Posted by Tord

Sit on a chair, any kind, for more
than eight hours in a row and you'll
know what I mean!

It happens that I sit more than 4 hours
at work in a row, and that is torture,
but I can at least stretch a little!

That was my first tought when I've seen the pictures in the first website !

But apparently some people really crossed oceans in very small "boats"

[SamSam]

[quote=lewisboats Say...What happened to the secret police, CIA and the "must escape...only have a few dollars" line of camel droppings you were dumping on Boatdesign group.

Folks have a peek at these then decide for yourself. He got himself banned from boatdesign group for that tirade linked to above. Steve[/QUOTE]

He posted there for 1 1/2 years or so, off and on. His "requirements" were in a constant flux which kept a whole lot of people doing his thinking for him for a long time on an absurd quest. I guit believing him early on and ignored him for the most part, but he was fun to dump on. Some believed him right up to the above 'gone postal' post and even after were whimpering about the little pricks "obvious" case of schizophrenia. In that boatdesign forum he never did change the basic fact that the boat had to be tiny for stealth, since he was illegally escaping Turkey and tiny for economy, since he only had a few dollars to work with. Also that he didn't have much time on the computer, since he had to scrape together pennies to buy time at an internet cafe. Never did the boat plans require sleekness or swiftness or gainliness and never was he truthful about why it had to be the way he said. Here's another link dated to a time when the CIA and the Turkish police had just got done torturing him in prison, stolen all his money and everything else and thrown him out on the street and he had nothing but the shirt on his back and the snot on his face. Sam

http://www.moth.asn.au/forum/posting...dd01bbf3968edf

[Chickadee]

Last drawing.

Model is fine, sails 90° from wind (shuffle), but I consider that a full size boat (120 cm) could reach 70- 60° if the sea is flat.

To be honest I have not much interest in that sort of sailbuoys and records, but I can't afford anything bigger (than the model on the left)...

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