My little piece of peace

[Frosty]

Too many bloody barbies!!

[Fanie]

Fanie, I didn't mean YOU have a bad design.

Didn't think you did. I was merely commenting. Another compromise maybe, half windy half slanted would turn out a half bad design only "D

[masalai]

I am trying to work it out so I can do everything in the shade of the roof (control the sails, steer, start the genset, operate the electric winches and set the course on the autopilot and prepare food)... I have some stuff sorted, (sleep berth or hammock), shower, ****, brush teeth and wash hands (toilet & shower & basin) - shave - nup - grown a beard.. I have yet to finalise fishing (well landing scaleing/gutting I will be a little exposed to the sun & solar reflections from the water), work out the sail handling bit (a mere bagatelle) steering, autopilot, genset & galley are pretty well sorted out - so what else - Oh Anchor winch is electric but the bridle and some bits, I will need to wear a shirt and hat and sarong whilst finishing that bit... - - Well you get the drift and have sailed a boat? so make suggestions... I like Manie's idea of crew to do the hard stuff but they must pay me... How do I work that one?

Thanks for the points 'anonymous' ?????

Manie, for the dream team, I feel that Frosty may have more appropriate offerings as the lads are "marriageable" and need caring wives to distract them from present interests in alcohol and wild socialising events chasing brief encounters of that "fools gold of a reason men succumb to married life"

My music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfVJ11GXzXQ & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkLXO...eature=related

[Frosty]

Crew!! Ohh geeezus, never again ever. Ive tried I really have.

Experienced or nothing. Dont ever ever take a landlubber, I tried 3 times all fking disasters could'nt wait to get em off, and lost fiends in the deal too.

The best was one friend of mine brought a tape with him and asked me to put it on soon after we left the dock --Rod Sterwart "we are sailing"

Unless they are women of course, then for some strange reason I can tolerate it.

[masalai]

They need "marrying off" to settle them down so they can dedicate their lives to building more bloody good boats... (gotta be kind to be cruel) or should that be the other way around???

"We are sailing" is one of the three I will be playing for my "vikings funeral" if I decide to light the match when out of site of land, in about 100 years time... aged 165...

[Manie B]

Mas the first song is one of my all time favourites
the second, sweet &esus whats going on, screeching bagpipes, farkit no no no

now i need to seriously correct you on some of your perceptions my man

Frosty may have more appropriate offerings

where have you been the last couple of days, Frosty has publicly invited me to "blow over" so that he can "educate" me in matters far more complicated than what the average Saffa can even begin to comprehend

steer the lads clear, its a frikken dangerous world out there, hai tai and what ever
keep in mind that i am from the "flat earth" society and we still believe that up there on that side of the world "its" sideways
tell the lads that i have some excellent "stock" available from Romania and the Ukraine - outright the most beautifull women on the planet EVERYTHING else doesn't even feature in tenth place

jeeeha bring it on dude

[Fanie]

Just a small correction there... Frosty doesn't blow, he may get blowed but deffenately not blow himself

If you play that kinds of music it is better that I stay far away from you guys good grief. I can see how Frosty got some bad experiences with it. It makes me sea sick right here on dry land just thinking about it.

No but serious guys, it sounds to me like you will have to do a bit of introspection and think things through for a change. I mean here's a guy who is obviously high from sniffing Vim or some weird substance, imagining himself sailing, croaking it out on a mic and you fall for it ? No man come on Just replace the word sailing with cotching or something, it's more appropriate in any case.

[Scrumble]

Originally Posted by masalai

I am trying to work it out so I can do everything in the shade of the roof (control the sails, steer, start the genset, operate the electric winches and set the course on the autopilot and prepare food)... I have some stuff sorted, (sleep berth or hammock), shower, ****, brush teeth and wash hands (toilet & shower & basin) - shave - nup - grown a beard.. I have yet to finalise fishing (well landing scaleing/gutting I will be a little exposed to the sun & solar reflections from the water), work out the sail handling bit (a mere bagatelle) steering, autopilot, genset & galley are pretty well sorted out - so what else - Oh Anchor winch is electric but the bridle and some bits, I will need to wear a shirt and hat and sarong whilst finishing that bit... - - Well you get the drift and have sailed a boat? so make suggestions... I like Manie's idea of crew to do the hard stuff but they must pay me... How do I work that one?

Masalai,

Two words to help arrange control location together, in the shade and with visibility - "Front Cockpit". Leave aft cockpits for leisure.

[hoytedow]

Mas,

Buy a hat.

[masalai]

I like the forward cockpit concept, but The hitch-hiker sail-plan is an aft managed rig, - and - access is the problem that I cannot satisfactorily resolve as the mast bulkhead beam must perform its function... - in retrospect the 44C would have been a better basis, but my 39C will have to be, and will have to accommodate my needs forever more...

I originally wanted a front cockpit, but the hitch-hiker sail-plan is an aft managed layout, best served by two winches near midships, right aft where the main-sheet traveller used to go... a sheet either side when close hauled or both sheets on leeward side for reaching... Ideally, the close hauled sheet blocks need to be as far aft as is possible (just forward of - attached to the base - of the aft stays), and outboard or near the sheer line of the hull for the close-hauled & reaching leeward sail sheet... A snap-block equidistant inboard of the hull centreline for the windward close hauled sail sheet... The windward sail sheet could go to the original, (now not used for standing rig stay), midships chainplate on the leeward side for all reaching and downwind tacking... Sails are never set "wing-on-wing" as that just does not work... (is that clear as mud) or should I post a graphic - that would take a week or so...

With no fixed agenda or prescribed need to make a passage by a predetermined date, most sailing will be "downhill" or broad reach at most - unless she goes soooo fast that the apparent breeze seems to keep moving forward - in my dreams any variation will mean powered movement...

I have several hats - I hate hats, as they persist in blowing off, or not doing the job of shading my head/face/neck or obscuring my vision or flapping and becoming annoying or act like some thermal device causing excessive sweating, and windshield wipers do not work on my eye-glasses... I know - excuses, excuses

[downunder]

Found this 40ft vessel in Port at Cardwell

Owner designed and built w red cedar. Well designed to max shade in cockpit and room in saloon , very cool temp on board - high bridgedeck. Traditional sailers might not like raised steering ststion on stern but high steering station is important navigating the excellent anchorages amongst coral reefs of coral sea and barrier reef which many sailors steer clear of.

Apparently owner is considering selling vessel due to health issues.

Perhaps it can assist with cockpit shading /saloon window concepts mas.

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[masalai]

Neat, and I too am not keen on the aft flybridge (clever use of the davits though) Thanks...

[downunder]

I recently visited marinas from Mackay to Port Douglas looking for concepts to assist my planning for a 45ft vessel down the track. what stood out was the lack of shade and poor design of cockpits and saloon for the tropic climate. The vessel above was well planned in this regard and not a commercial design. Whilst Mas, you might consider the Freeflow 44/46 a gin palace it is a new Aussie design taking taking this important consideration seriously. http://www.freeflowcatamarans.com.au/FF44.aspx

[masalai]

Getting there, thanks downunder... Why did you not make an offer on the 40ft at Cardwell?

A tradition, it seems with Oram designs, is to do your own thing on the coach-house shape and I will be no exception - I like the sensibility of the "lagoon" with its near vertical windows, overhanging brow front and sides - and -

I have a strong desire to extend the roofline full width aft to shade even the "duckboard" area and embed the davits into the roof section... effectively making a larger relative permanent shaded area... - and -

I am planning the sheet and deck hardware location to reduce the need to go out in the tropical sun, as I am neither a mad dog or Englishman... Both Lovely Lady and self are averse to direct sun exposure... She with skin as smoothe as milk chocolate and me fair as an .... (albino/virgin-maiden) - well not really more burnt to being almost raw scar tissue...

[Frosty]

Given any thought to rain water catching? Like deck fils near a flooding area?