My little piece of peace

[masalai]

But if you succeded to fail then you are successful in failing therefore you failed but if you succeded to succeed, whereas you aimed to fail, then you failed to fail you is fucked either way as a failure...

[masalai]

Manie B Here is a shot of the glass-chainplate being set up - - the turnbuckle has been removed... the 2 groves were cut with the angle grinder fitted with a diamond cutting blade

[masalai]

Sore heads from yesterday's booze-up... (not me) hehehe

For Manie, - this shows what must be done... (someone forgot so had to be cleaned out and epoxy fill has to be carefully squeezed in ) The rest is just a picture to post as lots of detail work that does not show up well photographically...

[Manie B]

Thanks Mas

[Manie B]

Mas i just read the latest TCP and was quite surprised to see a nice Easy going together. Just from your present experience in your neck of the woods, could folks build a basic cat cheaper than an Oram. I am 100% sure of the build method of Oram / Schionning / Bateau / Compaxboats = me (ha ha)

So do they think its cheaper, endless frames and stringers, or it it ignorance?

Orams can also be built in ply - just like yours, so whats going on in OZ. Something that we dont know or understand?

mmmmm - just wondering

[Manie B]

Oh and if anybody ever comes your way and tells them Manie is copying some of your ideas

I am

[Fanie]

Orams can also be built in ply - just like yours, so whats going on in OZ. Something that we dont know or understand?

Easier to buy the completed panels and assemble.

Just ply is not prepared to live on water, the firewood Mas uses is...

[masalai]

Building the wrong way round but ply is heavier and it saves on one rollover... Actually I thought you would be a candidate for the 30ft cat http://thecoastalpassage.com/cheapcat.html - - Your choice of a mono sort of stunned me... - - I reckon that little cat would make a very good manufacturing project for the Melanesian Islands by teaching the Solomon Islanders & their neighbours in Vanuatu how to build cheap little coastal cargo boats for each village...

[Alan M.]

Originally Posted by Manie B

Mas i just read the latest TCP and was quite surprised to see a nice Easy going together. Just from your present experience in your neck of the woods, could folks build a basic cat cheaper than an Oram. I am 100% sure of the build method of Oram / Schionning / Bateau / Compaxboats = me (ha ha)

So do they think its cheaper, endless frames and stringers, or it it ignorance?

Orams can also be built in ply - just like yours, so whats going on in OZ. Something that we dont know or understand?

mmmmm - just wondering

Ply is cheaper. Probably not by as much as people might think, but it is cheaper.

I think the real attraction of a ply boat compared to a Duflex kit is the up-front financial commitment.

With a kit you're really committing yourself to finish the thing - you have so much money tied up in it, right from the start.

With a ply boat, you can buy some plans, a couple of thousand dollars worth of ply, glass and epoxy, get stuck in for a few weeks, and if you find you suddenly go off the whole idea, just build a bonfire, and it's no great financial loss.


You can build some sensational looking boats in ply too: http://www.hostmybb.com/phpbb/viewto...15&mforum=easy

[sabahcat]

Originally Posted by Alan M.

Ply is cheaper. Probably not by as much as people might think, but it is cheaper.

I think the real attraction of a ply boat compared to a Duflex kit is the up-front financial commitment.

With a kit you're really committing yourself to finish the thing - you have so much money tied up in it, right from the start.

With a ply boat, you can buy some plans, a couple of thousand dollars worth of ply, glass and epoxy, get stuck in for a few weeks, and if you find you suddenly go off the whole idea, just build a bonfire, and it's no great financial loss.


You can build some sensational looking boats in ply too: http://www.hostmybb.com/phpbb/viewto...15&mforum=easy

I dont think its that you can bin the project and only be out of pocket a little bit at all

I am doing my current build and last build by trikle charging

On the first boat I could buy the cedar for 1 hull
Then I could get 30 litres of epoxy and get in a scarfing frenzy.
Get some chipboard, Loft frames and stand
planks
get another 30 litres of resin and some glass
get a few sheets of ply etc etc.

A few hundred here and a few hundred there

The whole time having the funds paying off my house instead of giving ATL $40k to get started

Same this time

A few grand here a few grand there (though I did buy core materials in one hit and buy resin in 44 gallon drums)

Hardly miss the dollars if doing it like that but I would have noticed the $100k paid out in one hit for a kit.

You can build some sensational looking boats in ply too: http://www.hostmybb.com/phpbb/viewto...15&mforum=easy

Thats not ply is it?

That's a Shaun Arber boat like this one

Shaun Arber Southeaster 46ft cat

Shit, I may be taking that back, bloody good looking ply if it is and it is at Shaun Arbers yard by the looks.

[Alan M.]

Essentially that's exactly what I said: the up-front financial commitment is much smaller.

[masalai]

the Port side decks now also are trimmed and look pretty and the galley is progressing... The new "office with a view"...