Manie's TEN

Discussion in 'Boatbuilding' started by Manie B, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. Westel
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    That's true, Spiess was obsessed with "keeping things under control" and he surely took his time to do his homework.
    Not all of his previous boats/projects prior to "Yankee Girl" where succesful though.....but he learned from it.
    I guess it's better to have modern technology to iron things out before any pîece of wood is cut......
     
  2. Manie B
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    Westel correct. The point I'm making here is that there was a lot of discussion on other Ten threads about all sorts of different hull shapes with all sorts of designs and features. I spent weeks and weeks on Freeship to finalise my Ten design. It was a painful process of constant fine tuning and honing of the hull to get what I found suitable. That's why I suggested that the folks start learning to use the modern tools of the trade that is available to us now.

    Sure nothing beats experience and sound knowledge, but using modern design tools takes a lot of pain and frustration out of the project and also eliminates many ideas that seem to be good on paper, that are not practical in real life.

    I spent soooo much time on this design that I can assure you for a decent ten there are not as many options as we think there are. A coconut, foot ball, egg, ugly death trap :eek: enclosed coffin :eek: that is posing as a shitty sailboat :p cum lousy vomit comit survival capsule ;) there is only so much that you can do. :)

    So anyway on that humoristic :p note I can say that I achieved a CP 0.7363 and a resistance of 113 watts at 3 knots. This means that I hopefully should have a reasonably slippery boat at 3 to 4 knots that does not require vast amounts of sail to push it. And as we have discussed before there are many more question than answers but time will tell.

    Good news I have turned the boat upright again and have started on the cabin top. Nice pictures coming up soon !!!! :)
     

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  3. Westel
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    I understand what you're saying Manie.

    Cant wait for the new pictures...so I add one of mine;)
     

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  4. Jamie Kennedy
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    Looking forward to your pictures. Enjoy your work.
     
  5. Manie B
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    Aaaaah Westel you really made me smile with that pic, got me by complete surprise. I avoid talking politics because I am so bitterly disappointed with South Africa and the idiotic revolutionaries that are running this circus into the ground. So your rainbow is a reminder of the stupid dream that was conceived by uneducated thieves that can never be. Africa is just that - Africa, a complete waste of time and the Chinese will empty it finally and then the "people" can return to nature :D :D :D :D :D :p :p :p :p :p jeeehaaa

    Anyway lets get back to the job at hand and that is to TRY and build the worlds first successful TEN ;) no ya talkin :cool:
     
  6. Westel
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    Unless someone is keeping it a high secret and building his TEN in one or another hidden cave, your boat will be the first serious attempt Manie in building a professional TEN !
    So far it looks very good so no need to leave the choosen path.

    Keep us posted Manie !!
     
  7. Manie B
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    Well folks all the main components are almost there :D
    at least now you can see much better where I am going with this
    one things for sure - it's comfortable
    you can see me standing flat on the floor and standing on the benches
    the back hatch will be closed most of the time and the top sliding hatch can be opened on good days or when attending to the sail or windvane

    enjoy :cool:
     

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  8. Jamie Kennedy
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    Looking very good Manie
     
  9. Manie B
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    I only just realised that my hoists are wonderful toys to play around with the boat - so here she is in all her glory :D
     

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  10. Jamie Kennedy
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    How is the keel to be fastened to the boat? I know you mentioned that you want to be able to make modifications if needed after trials. Are you going to use some sort of glue like 5200 and then shape that into a filler and glass over it on the exterior, and if there might also be some compression bolts. Not being a doubting Thomas. Just a curious armchair engineer. ;-)

    Looking forward to next pictures. Also getting excited about your trip. I know it is to be all downhill mostly, but I look forward to seeing how it does on all points including upwind in favourable conditions. It is definitely starting to look like a real ship, like the Santa Maria. :)
     
  11. Manie B
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    The hull you are looking at now is the inner hull of the double hull skins.
    The keel will be glassed onto the inner hull and then a series of "ribs" will go from the inner hull and the keel that will form the spacers for the outer hull with flotation filled gap of 80mm in between.
    Then the keel will be glassed onto the outer hull as well. There will be some screws from inside as well because for safety it is always good to have mechanical fastening as well
    The whole system is over engineered but it doesn't matter I needed the extra weight in the keel anyway.

    So basically the keel is glassed onto both hulls and screwed onto the hull with stiffeners.
     
  12. Manie B
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    Oh and this system does not allow for any modifications afterwards, we will live with what we've got.
     
  13. Jamie Kennedy
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    Interesting. Looks good.
     
  14. RHP
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    Rock on Tommy. :D
     

  15. Angélique
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    Angélique aka Angel (only by name)

    Looking good Manie [​IMG]

    Will the sliding hatch be sturdy and watertight enough . . ? ?

    Guys like Sven Yrvind and Roger Taylor go for hinged ones that can be dogged down.

    The keel reminds me of a picture here, some scale difference though . . :cool:

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