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Old 12-14-2010, 06:40 PM
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Buy your boat today!

Buy your boat now.

get a impressive discount of at least 50% today.

If you are in for a new boat, get it purchased now, or get it built for a fraction of the common cost!

Prime builders are willing to discount to a extreme extend, today.

Mass producers are not. A mass product has overhead cost.

When you are a prime customer (able to provide proof), purchase today. It does not get cheaper!

Regards
Richard
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:45 PM
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Buy your boat now.

get a impressive discount of at least 50% today.
I bet the customers that paid full price will be pleased to see they have been robbed of 50% previously
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When you are a prime customer (able to provide proof)
WTF is a prime customer?
Anyone that can place an order with the funding to complete?
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purchase today. It does not get cheaper!

Regards
Richard
Any free steak knives with that 50% off, 2 for the price of one, buy one get one free offer?
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:47 PM
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I bet the customers that paid full price will be pleased to see they have been robbed of 50% previously

WTF is a prime customer?
Anyone that can place an order with the funding to complete?


Any free steak knives with that 50% off, 2 for the price of one, buy one get one free offer?
Fß§ck your mother iD!ot.......
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:00 PM
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The first roughly calculated (not estimated) figures for

"The perfect Passagemaker"
evolved.

The "Nort Sea Trawler" comes at:

22,5m Loa
20,2m Lwl
5,90m beam
2,1m draught
85t displ.
Hull steel
Superstructure Aluminium
Blasted, epoxy primered/fillered and epoxy coated, PU painted
Armaflex insulation on all metal surfaces
Jury rig on main mast
Bowthruster
Hydraulic stabilizers
10 tonnes fuel
4 tonnes water / trim tanks
2 tonnes waste water / trim tanks
6 berths in 3 staterooms, one aux. bunk
Range at 8,1kn 6.500 nm with 15% reserve, incl. aux. systems, average sea conditions
Range at 9,1kn 5.500 nm with 15% reserve, incl. aux. systems, average sea conditions

with:
Single Lugger Diesel 500hp cont. at 1800 rpm (or equivalent)
speed at S/L 1 = 8,1kn consumption 12,8 Ltr/hr main only, calm weather
speed at S/L 1,1 = 9,1 kn consumption 16,5 Ltr/hr main only, calm weather
Nogva / Helseth gear / CPP with manual / hydraulic actuator, Al. bronce prop
Manual /el. assisted hydraulic steering, tiller at helm seat and flybridge
2x 12V/350A heavy duty alternators on multi groove pulley
1600Ah Rolls/Surrette battery bank, deep cycle
12V/240Ah starter battery
1 4kVA DC generator.........dropped
1 7kVA AC generator
2 Victron Energy Multi Plus / Quattro inverters/chargers/power management units 8kVA
Victron Energy Isolation transformer 7kVA
Victron Energy DC distribution
Commercial grade switch panel, with
Distributed power bus system with three independent circuits, engine controls excluded
Workbench with drill and vice
Complete toolkit of all required sizes
Centrifugal fuel separator
2 fuel filters per tank (incl. daytank) 2 filters in engine fuel supply line
2 oil filters engine mounted, 1 filter on separate bypass
Air sep with filter
Hydraulic pump on pto with el. clutch,
Automated fire fighting system in engine room
9 fire extinguishers, distributed
Combined AC / heating system by chilled/heated water with exchangers/handlers in all living rooms and bridge
2 independent, seawater cooled AC units.....reduced to 2
1 Kabola central heater
1 watermaker 4000 Ltr/day
2 seawater cooled compressor units for fridge/freeze room
Second helm station in funnel
1 Lofrans horizontal anchor windlass bow
1 Lofrans vertical anchor / mooring windlass stern
3 Anchors in pockets
1 Hydraulic gangway
1 Searchlight on wheelhouse
1 Deck light on main mast
1 RIB 4,50 m w. 25hp outboard on foredeck
2 8 person liferafts in canister
12 PFD`s adult, 6 PFD`s children, 4 lifebelts, 2 life rings, 2 life rings U form with whistle and light
1 EPIRB mounted, automatic
1 EPIRB in emergency grab bag, manual
1 emergency kit in bag (rockets, flares, signal pistol, wt torch, compressor horn, whistle)
All ropes, chains and fenders
Exterior and interior lighting LED, incl. nav lights, additional halogen lights in saloon and galley/dining
All joinerwork, cabinetry, panelling in decent Yacht quality with matt PU finish
Saloon and dining with Bose sound system, Denon amplifier, CD, no TV included
Galley complete with 4 burner range, stove, dishwasher, refrigerator
Laundry with washer dryer
All household equipment (white ware) top brands, wet: Miele, hot: Gaggenau, cold: Liebherr
Food storage 6m³ dry, 2m³ refrigerated, 1,5m³ subzero/freezer, insulation Vacuum panels over PU foam

Bridge and Electronics:
Inmarsat M phone, fax, data system, or Iridium open port Marine phone
Complete Furuno Nav Net 3D, with:
NavNet 3D Black Box MFDBB
4' UHD Digital Radar Array DRS12A
Fax 30 weatherfax
Sirius Satellite Weather Receiver BBWX1
Navpilot 500
GPS/WAAS Navigator GP33
Navtex
Ultrasonic Weather Station WS 200
Satellite Compass SC 30
AIS Transponder with Display - Class A, FA 150 SOLAS
Black Box Echosounder DFF3
Separate Furuno FAR2117BB commercial black box Radar, with 6' open scanner....dropped
Separate Simrad broadband radar
1 LCD screens connected via ethernet, fully dimmable, 17"....reduced to 1
Icom SSB IC-M801GMDSS, DSC class A SOLAS
2 VHF radios IC-GM651, GMDSS, SOLAS
Engine control instruments VDO classic
Kobelt engine/prop control heads, bronce
Isringhausen fully pneumatic, ventilated pilot seat, leather
Matresses, tableware, bedlinen etc. in average Hotel standard quality.

TV or music systems are not included, except the specified.

Bottle of Champaign for christening...............................incl.

Built entirely in Holland to the well known and admittedly high, Dutch quality standards, CE certified class A, all systems and materials in accordance with GL rules, I can offer this boat at

2.030.000 € ex yard. specification can be changed without prior notice. See following posts!

Regards
Richard
sure I have forgotten something, that costs extra!

That was a few weeks ago.

Today that vessel is about 12% more ex yard! Hurry, if you are in for a custom made boat.


Regards
Richard

and for the shabby cat drivel queen: no,it is not one of my production boats.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:43 PM
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Being a businessman myself and schooled in finance (and a little marketing), I may be able to enlighten as to reasons for offering such a discount. (BTW, having seen Richard's product, such a discount is not to be taken lightly):
1.) Like it or not, the world economy is in a downturn. Though Germany is one of the last places to feel the effect, politics and other circumstances beyond one's control can affect everyone.
2.) Number one reason for offering a discounted finished product is caring what happens to employees - yes, it is going to sting a bit now to not make money, and again when the economy recovers and there are a few boaters out there that won't be needing one but keeping a stable and happy workforce will pay dividends far into the future. Richard has been through downturns before. Keeping that workforce is one reason why he is successful now.
3.) Mostly through word-of-mouth, his yards have kept busy. One does not see him discount in periodicals or mailers - He is offering it through this forum, I believe, because he feels a comaraderie with many here.
4.) Moving inventory is cheaper than holding it, even if sometimes letting go at a loss.
5.) I don't know the tax structure in Europe well enough to specify but, were it in the US, a deal closed before the end of the year can make a huge difference in taxation depending on conditions the business owner has no obligation to reveal, particularly to adversarial querists.
6.) There may be a new product line he is clearing way for.
7.) Perhaps to maintain lines of supply, or even just to help his suppliers of raw materials, he is keeping them busy.
8.) Bearing in mind that a majority of Richard's clients are repeat buyers, the discount is mostly for them, in appreciation of their loyal following.
9.) Business may be so strong that with the looming downturn, this is the perfect opportunity to apply the coup de grace to some of the less prepared competition.
10.) Maybe it's just to set off people with apparent chemical imbalances...

All said, danke schön, Richard, for everything. Job well done!
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:14 AM
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Fß§ck your mother iD!ot.......
That reminds me of Mustafa.
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:58 PM
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We have one jealous/bitter and one in outer space. Either way, I'm sure it's not the desired response.
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:52 PM
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We have one jealous/bitter and one in outer space. Either way, I'm sure it's not the desired response.
By so far we had only complete illiteral replying (except for your valuable input).

The statement was by no means related to my products.
In fact we increased the prices by 8% a month ago.

It was thought as a hint, but of course failed.
Dumb nickels always fail to grasp a chance, they are too busy to search for the trap!

Again, buy now, if you want a custom made yacht! (I am a manufacturer, no custom, besides of prospect claims)

It is really a shame how many completely unprofessional dumb nickels raise their head here and comment on topics they have no clue about!

Regards
Richard
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:34 PM
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From what I've seen in the market, Richard is right. His example boat may or may not be for you, but from what I have seen in general used market price trends as well as raw material trends, now is the time. Same reason I chose to do a custom build now. It is the right time.
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Old 12-18-2010, 03:01 PM
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Fß§ck your mother iD!ot.......
My mother died last year idiot
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repetitive abusive drivel
Followed by richard the dick's repetitive abusive drivel

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from what I have seen in general used market price trends as well as raw material trends, now is the time. Same reason I chose to do a custom build now. It is the right time.
Correct
I am getting some materials up to 50% off
Aussie dollar at or near USD parity is giving huge discounts on imports
And failed boatbuilding yards has made the hourly rate for workers come down considerably.
I now have some pressuring me for work @ 40% off previous asking rates.
Glad I mothballed her for a couple of years, the final push is on, at a much reduced rate of $$$.
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Old 12-18-2010, 04:04 PM
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Correct
I am getting some materials up to 50% off
Aussie dollar at or near USD parity is giving huge discounts on imports
And failed boatbuilding yards has made the hourly rate for workers come down considerably.
I now have some pressuring me for work @ 40% off previous asking rates.
Glad I mothballed her for a couple of years, the final push is on, at a much reduced rate of $$$.
Same story here in the States as well.

I don't want to jinx it, but I have been finding materials 50% off retail as well. Also, I am finding out of work people with marine experience for $10USD per hour. $15/hr for highly experienced fiberglass workers.

Used boats are about as low as they will get right now, I think.

Couldn't be a better time to be getting into new boats, either buying or building. I think the prices will only go up from here.
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:54 PM
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This is harrassment of an honest businessman offering a superior product to a specific market at a very reasonable price..
Really?
Apparently its not his product that he is talking about
its that "other" guy

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The statement was by no means related to my products.
In fact we increased the prices by 8% a month ago.
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Really?
Apparently its not his product that he is talking about
its that "other" guy
You will be next.
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Old 12-18-2010, 07:12 PM
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Really?
Apparently its not his product that he is talking about
its that "other" guy
Rarely we have seen such a shabby character as you, trying to proviDe his (unwanteD) Drivel as often as you DiD...... CoulD you probably accept that others are less biaseD as you?
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:53 PM
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Rarely we have seen such a shabby character as you, trying to proviDe his (unwanteD) Drivel as often as you DiD...... CoulD you probably accept that others are less biaseD as you?
Again you are posting absolute meaningless drivel

Post 1 you talk about building half priced boats
Then you claim you are not talking about your firm
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The statement was by no means related to my products. In fact we increased the prices by 8% a month ago.


Now you follow up with some drivel about me being biased
What am I biased about exactly?
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