Boat repair

[A-white]

hey guys, I'm pretty new to the forum but we've been in the boat repair industry for years now. We recently had a job come in to repair a Whittley Sea Legend 5.0 (Australian Manufacturer) the damage is pretty major and we considered purchasing a new hull for the craft, but had no luck in getting hold of one. I was just fishing for ideas on how some of you guy's would go about repairing the hull and deck, strength-wise and appearence. Heres a few pictures of the extent of the damage.
thanks,

[Landlubber]

I do not see that repair as being particularly difficult at all. Do you work in the trade or are you doing this job for someone at home?

[Landlubber]

"we've been in the boat repair industry for years now. We recently had a job come in to repair a Whittley Sea Legend 5.0 (Australian Manufacturer) the damage is pretty major and we considered purchasing a new hull for the craft, etc etc"

I am confused as to why you are even asking this if you are so called tradesmen...If you were working from home trying your best to do a repair I would have some sympathy for you and explain the process, it seems to me that you are fraudulenty representing yourselves to unsuspecting customers that you are in fact qualified to work on boat repairs, when you are blatentanty undereducated in the field.

This may be a fair bit of work, but it is hardly a problem to qualified personell.

[the1much]

i wish ALL jobs were as easy as this one.i'm trying to fig how you can be a boat repair biz, but ya first thought was to buy a hull? and whats wrong with the deck? im thinking LL is right,,,and im pretty sure im right when i say,,,,go away

[longliner45]

TO ALL , The man is asking for help,is there structeral damage to ribs and stringers?or other super structer,,obviously so or the deck would not need repair ,,more pics please,,this is not a simple glass job ,,,,what year is this boat? please show some internal pics also....longliner

[waikikin]

A white they'r being a bit harsh on you? Although if I owned Whittley I'd be reluctant to supply hull moldings to a guy looking to buy molds! or any one else for that matter, as for the repair you'll need a tyvec suit(lol) & a Zec disc & diamond blade in your grinder & get good access to internal structure in regards to v berth & anchor locker, make generous scarfs for fiber replacement & realign panels(I like alu channel with pva) & have fantastic gelcoat repair skills or fair & shoot with pu or put a groovy decal over it! All the best from Jeff.

[the1much]

i'd wrap it with plastic,, stick it in the water,,the water pressure should push against the plastic,, i've been repairing boats like that for years!,, just dont go into reverse.,,,,,, now tell us a better believing lie and we would give you more info then you could read in a month,,,, ya know, if a guy came up to me and needed a few bucks fer food,,i'd give it no prob,,,,, if he came up to me and asked for money because him mom needed an operation,,i'd slap him for such a bold face lie,,,,,,i wonder what the moral of that story is,,,,,,,,,, and dont ask him bout stringers or any real boat facts,,,,he's been in the repair biz fer years,,,,they might not know what stringers are yet,,,,usually takes like 20 years of repairing boats to get that knowledge

[SamSam]

You guys have shown you can be #1, a+ *******s. Why don't you assume the original poster is serious and is asking for help? Show us all what wonderful tradesmen you are and suggest how it be repaired.

[DanishBagger]

SamSam, they do have a point. If one have been in the repair business for years, he ought to know a thing or two about boat repair.
I'm pretty sure they would have given A-white something close to a walk-through on the repair of such a thing, had it been a numb-nut like me (i.e. an amateur that wouldn't have a clue as to where to begin such a project, nor claiming to have been repairing broken boats for years). And as such I agree with post # 3 and 4.

[the1much]

if his post is true he dont need our help,,,,,thats what is trying to be said. its wierd that WE should be true tradesmen to someone that just out tells us a yuggers story, and tells us he is one of us "tradesmen",,, if he would of just asked for the help,,he would of gotten more help then he'd want,,,but to say he's been doing THIS kind of work for years and doesnt have any idea on how to fix it??? would we be helping a guy in need or a guy thats running a scam on people????this industry has enough scammers and wanna-be's taking peoples money and putting people in danger on the water. and waikikin he didnt ask for a mould,,,,just asked for a hull,,,,,and almost every boat builder will sell ya a hull,,,,they make big bucks on just hulls

[SamSam]

Not all "boat repair" is structural damage like this. Very few operations specialize, but are forced to do a variety of repairs, mechanical, electrical etc.. Even if a person is well qualified, it doesn't show a lack of ability to ask for opinions. If the job is such a simple one, not particularly difficult, easy, answer his question and quit the insults. A person has a business, takes on a challenge and asks for advice. Isn't that how it works?

In another thread, some are complaining there are no skilled tradesmen anymore. There are no schools to teach this stuff. You learn by doing. You learn by asking questions. Those who know are the teachers. If this is the result of the inexperienced asking the experienced, an imbecile can figure out why skilled tradesmen are becoming fewer.

[DanishBagger]

Hmm, sounds more like a parts-pusher to me, SamSam, but then again, I am no tradesman, nor a repairer. Yet, I'd without hesitation see buying a new hull as the very last resort, not the first. Especially considering how much can be done with glass fibre and epoxy.
Hell, this I'd even be willing to try myself, as the crack isn't in some weird place, where mathematical skills were involved.

Check for delamination, remove any and all delamination, repair or replace stingers, and add fibre glass and epoxy as per the Gougeon Brothers' bible.

Perhaps that would be a stupid approach, but as an educated bastard, that is the first approach I'd make.
Then, after researching, I'd ask questions after I had outlined my approach to the guys on these boards. And that even if I were posing as a "tradesman".

[the1much]

well heres his web page,,,,,,you allz tell me who's right???
http://www.fibreglasssolutions.com.au/
he should be arrested,,, im calling their phone number,,,,,and calling whatever authority there is,,then gonna grab their customer list and call them and see how many lives have been lost to their incompetents

[longliner45]

I cant speak for sam ,but you guys just might be right ,,I always give the benifit of doubt to the other guy,,looks like he is more into building swimming pools,,,,,I hate backtracking,,,buy the way im not too much on those type of boats ,,,not much superstructer and so on ,,,,but you guys know me for the jerk I am ,,longliner

[DanishBagger]

Originally Posted by the1much

well heres his web page,,,,,,you allz tell me who's right???
http://www.fibreglasssolutions.com.au/
he should be arrested,,, im calling their phone number,,,,,and calling whatever authority there is,,then gonna grab their customer list and call them and see how many lives have been lost to their incompetents

Oh great right there on the front page it says:

Structural fibreglass repairs, transoms,
floors, impact damage, metal flake and custom design

What a con!

Btw, if you reported them, you ought to make sure you have a copy of their website saved to your harddisk. I always print to PDF to document websites.