Master in yacht design

[ambas]

Does somebody have information about this course?
1.Is it "master degree"?
2.Do We need to graduate Bacherlor first?
3.Do they accept international student?
4.What language they use to teach?

BAS

[ambas]

The reason I ask this question because I had contact them by email by phone. But they can not speak english at all so I wonder that this course is only for local student? And how I will get more information?

BAS

[Andres Palou]

Hi Ambas, I guess you're asking for the Master in Yacht Design of the Politecnico di Milano or the Centro Sperimentale di Design di Ancona, because are the only Master in that area as far as I know. Both are Master Degree for architects, engineers and industrial designers, so you'll need to be graduated first. Both are open to international students, but they impart their lessons in Italian. Its easier and cheaper, not faster, to send them emails in English with all your doubts. I know the Politecnica is now doing the selection process for the next year edition, I don't know the one from Ancona.
Hope this help you and I wish you lots of patience.
Andres Palou
Pd: I'm from Chile, South America

[Semrin Demirel]

chao andres,

my name is semrin and i´m studiing interior design. in september/october i want to make an internship. i´m intrested in doing the interior of yachts and ships and so on. i would like to go to chile but it is not so easy to find someone who is doing this there.

can you help me?

what happend to your plans "master of yacht design?"

yours semrin

[Andres Palou]

Hi Semrin and Ambas, finally someone from the Politecnico di Milano called me. His name is Andrea Ratti, he speaks english, so Ambas run to the phone! They are starting the course in these days, around the 21st march, nothing for sure. It's in italian, so I will need to learn it this year to postulate in 2006. I'm thinking now in the Landing School as a possibility, but I don't have any clue about the costs of the course and the living expenses.
Let’s keep in touch, have luck.
Andrés

[Sercan]

In Jan 23 , 2004 I sent this mail to Rome(interior yachtdesign master)
and to Ancona(motor yacht design master),and to Milano (sailing and motoryacht design)

I am a junior at Naval Arhitecture, Istanbul Technical University,
Turkey. After I graduate I want to participate in your Yacht Design
master program. Are there any requisites for applications? Is speaking
Italian mandatory? I would also be grateful if you tell me the price
of attending this program.
Looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Best Regards
Sercan Nersesoglu
and i received ;

***from Rome (interior yacht design program) ;

Entry to Masters is strictly restricted and subject to an admission interview. Courses are exclusively run in Italian.

Starting date
The Master is due to commence in February 2005



Attendance
3 times a week – 3 hours lessons (18:30 – 21:30)

Cost

The cost of the Master’s is Euro 5180,00 which includes:

Euro 980,00 enrolment fee

Euro 4200,00 attendance fee.
Scolarship are foreseen


***from Milano
Dear Sercan,
to partecipate to the master course you have to be graduated.
You also have to speak Italian because the lessons are all in Italian.
The price is 10.000 euro.

***from Ancona

Thank you for your email.
At the moment we have our master Course in Yacht Design only in Italian
language in ours school facility located in Ancona, Italy.

We have also received several inquires from abroad asking for a course taught
in English, so we are developing a new course for student from abroad:

On-line course through Distance Learning

The course is in English and has 2 variants:

1) for students with no naval architecture knowledge
2) for students with naval architecture knowledge

The course is formed by 2 levels, 1 special course and a final thesis.
Student with a degree in naval architecture, can access directly level 2.

Level 1: will give foundation knowledge of naval architecture and technology
matter and regulations.

Level 2: will focus on yacht concept design, exterior styling and graphic
presentation and history of yacht design

Special course: advanced 3D modelling for yacht design using Rhino 3D.

Thesis project: student are required to make a final project following the
instructions of the school.

The master course specializes only in motor yachts.

How on-line courses work:

- your on-line course is available to you 24 hours a day, seven days a
week.
- You can re-read and review the lecture notes as often as you want.
- Instructions include many pictures, CAD file and QuickTime tutorials.
- you can listen and watch QuickTime multimedia movie demonstrations.
- You can ask questions by email.
- most lessons have some homework to do: you send to us your assigned homework,
and we will replay with notes and corrections.


Final project
you should make a yacht project following our instructions: we will comment
it in order to help you to concentrate on the design concept development.

Cost
The cost for level 1 is 2000.00 euro
The cost for level 2 is 2450.00 euro and include the tutoring for the thesis.
The cost of the course in 3D modelling with Rhino is 450.00 euro
The cost of the full master is 4900.00 euro

We would like to receive you comment about this new course, to know how
we can improve to fit better your requirement and interests.

Do not hesitate to contact us if you have other questions.


AFTER THIS MAIL FROM ANCONA I SAID THAT THATS GOOD BUT A PROGRAM IN ENGLISH AND IN ITALY WOULD BE BETTER, I HAVENT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE YET BUT I WILL CONTACT THEM , I THINK IM GONNA PARTICIPATE TO THE MASTER IN ANCONA,MAYBE I WILL HAVE TO LEARN ITALIAN, SO IF YOU WANNA ASK ME SOMETHING OR CONTACT ME
clubangelis21@hotmail.com

[Andres Palou]

Hi Sercan, thank you for your excellent information.
In these moments I'm postulating to the Milan course, and I will do also for the Ancona. I'm learning Italian too.
The money is the big issue for me so I looking for a scholarship to pay the masters studies. The Milan people told me the next edition will cost 12000 euro.
Have luck

[Sercan]

You got any information, any idea about living expenses in Italy?
(let's keep in touch, we are a few person in the whole world interested in yacht design master)

[Andres Palou]

I will post an E-mail of Mr Loenardo Vitale from Il Centro Sperimentale di Ancona that might have some useful information...

Dear Mr. Leonardo,
Thank you for your recent mail and I hope I'm not to late for this year
aplication.
I need further information to apply to an Italian scholarship that's open
in these days:
Is Centro Sperimentale di Design a public institution? If not, does it have
government recognition?
CENTRO SPERIMENTALE IS A PRIVATE ISTITUTION WITH RECOGNITION FROM ITALIAN
GOVERNMENT.
CENTRO SPERIMENTALE GRANT DESIGN DIPLOMA AND MAKE SPECIALIZATION COURSE
THAT HAVE RECOGNITION BY LAW IN ITALY AND EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.

What are the academic dates for this year? starting date, holidays, project
thesis, ending date, etc.
WE ARE WORKING ON A NEW MASTER DESIGN COURSE THAT WILL START IN SEPTEMBER?AND
FROM BEGINNING TO END, YOU WILL MEED TO STAY IN ITALY ABOUT 6 MONTHS.
What is it included in the 4.900 euro fee?
LESSONS, WORKSHOP AND STAGES WITH ITALIAN SHIPYARDS.
NO OTHER MONEY ARE DUE TO THE SCHOOL
Do you have any scholarship or fellowship I could postulate?
NO
What are the estimated living expenses in Ancona?
MINIMUM ABOUT 600 EURO PER MONTH ( ACCOMODATION, FOOD, TRANSPORTATION)
I've been learning Italian, but would the preliminary Italian language course
in your institution have an extra cost?
WE CAN ARRANGE SOME HELP WITH ITALIAN LANGUAGE AT LOW COST,
AND WE BELIVE THAT WITH A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE OT THE ITALIAN LANGUAGE, YOU
WILL MANAGE AND LEARN VERY FAST.

And proceeding with my postulation, what other information will I need
to send you? Will I need to take any admission exam (in Italy) before I'm
accepted?
TO BE ACCEPTED, YOU NEED TO SEND A CURRICULUM VITA, AND A FOTOCOPY OF YOUR
UNIVERSITY DEGREE
THE NEXT SELECTION WILL CLOSE ON MAY 30, 2005
Thank you

I think Milano and Rome must be a little more expensive, but I not sure, and it's true that we are only a few in the world looking for a "Master" studies in this area.
Have luck

[Sercan]

Thank you for your information
I wanna ask you some questions


Mr Vitale says
"THE NEXT SELECTION WILL CLOSE ON MAY 30, 2005"
Im a junior of third class, it means i got one more year to be graduated
I think i will be graduated in june 2006 and maybe selections will be closed in may 2006
this program is once in a year, isnt it?
And another question ; in your contry do you have to take an exam for a foreign master program?In my country for any master program of any turkish university,i need to take an exam,but i dont know if it is necessary for a master in a foreign country,i will try to learn this

[Andres Palou]

I really don't know if the Master in Ancona is only once in a year, because the first information Mr Vitale gave me was that the course was starting in March, so I don't know if it's the same with other dates or is it's a second "ROUND" of masters. In my country in some Postgrades you have to take an exam, for other you just need to accredite you have Universities Studies. I'm from Chile, but it seems it's the same in Italy.

[chandler]

Hi,
The cost of the landing school is approximately $12,000. Living costs would vary depending on the number of students sharing a house or apartment .
Cost of a house would be about $1,300 per month for 2 or 3 bedrooms close to the school, same for an apartment. This is a vacation tourist econonomy area.
Chandler

[Sercan]

ok thank you

[Andres Palou]

I wanted to go to the Landing School, but the problem is that the course isn’t a Master program and the school doesn’t have the Fulbright recognition, so it’s impossible for me to find financial support. Maybe someday I’ll have the enough money to assist to the Design program in the Landing School. Sad but true! :(

[Sercan]

yea I know Landing shool is not a master program and it is a long program
Since I'm interested in motoryachts and 6 months is not a long period, Ancona is more reasonable for me at the moment, and I think we need to have some relations with Italy, at least we have to learn italian because Italy is the leader in yacht design, buiding and marine industry

[testaverde]

cİAo andres,i have read the stuff that u and others have posted on page..im one of the few who is interested in yacht design bt im specially interesed in interior of boats cuz i studied (actually still study) interior design :) here i have smthg i found in italy,in rome,u may interest in if ur still looking for..whut have udone with ur studies?i saw the last massages were sent in april,hope everything has been fine..this is 2005-2006 programme in "ied" :

Dear Su,
with reference to your request, I'm pleased to enclose the information about the Master in Interior Yacht Design organised by the European Institute of Design at the Rome centre.

THE MASTER IS HELD IN ITALIAN LANGUAGE.

Please contact us to get more informations about the project.



For about 40 years the European Institute of Design Group, with centres in Milan, Rome, Turin, Barcelona, Madrid and Sao Paolo, has been operating in the field of training and research in the disciplines of design, fashion, and visual communication. The European Institute of Design organises 3-year courses at its centres, as an alternative to university courses (Basic Study Program), refresher and permanent training courses (Continual Study Program), Advanced training courses in the fashion, entertainment, design and communication sectors (Advanced Study Program).

The IED Roma seat of Via Alcamo 11 offers the following Masters in the Visual Arts and Design areas:

IED Arti Visive

- MASTER IN WEB DESIGN & STRATEGY

- MASTER IN VIDEOGAME DESIGN

- MASTER IN GRAPHIC DESIGN


IED Design

- MASTER IN FILM AND TELEVISION SET DESIGN

- MASTER IN INTERIOR YACHT DESIGN

- MASTER IN INTERIOR DESIGN



They are a series of post-graduate training courses whose privileged students are young graduates, company operators and professionals who want to acquire or deepen a specific competence in the different areas of design, visual communication, marketing and multimedia. The teaching method chosen to reach these objectives is based on a harmonious relationship between theory and practice which allow the participants, through practical exercises and simulations on real case histories, to develop competences at a practical operative level.

The lessons are held by important professionals from the world of design, entertainment and communication. The majority come from professional studies and top companies in their sector and who are partners in the realisation of our Masters.

To establish a direct contact with the world of work and to put the operative instruments into practice in close connection with the evolution of different sectors, the Institute offers the possibility of doing a period of training in the principal companies of reference.

Entry to Masters is strictly restricted and subject to an admission interview. Courses are exclusively run in Italian.



For any queries or further information I am available from mon-fri 9.30am to 1.30pm and 2.30pm to 6.30pm tel 06-7024025 or, by appointment, directly at the Rome centre.

I advise you however to visit our web site (www.ied.it) for the latest news.



Thank you for your interest. Best wishes.



Alessia Vagliviello

Master Co-ordinator

Istituto Europeo di Design Roma

Via Alcamo, 11

00182 Roma

Tel. 06/7024025

Fax 06/7024041






IED Master

Advanced Study Program





INTERIOR YACHT DESIGN (Rome)

a.a. 2005 � 2006


Professional Scene

The boat sector, and in particular the medium and big sized boat sector, is under steady growth.

On the international sphere, the Italian designers professionalism is highly appreciated and under demand. In this field, interior yacht designers play a major role.


Objectives

This Master course aims at training professionals capable of applying naval architectural techniques and tools to the most innovative forms of design. Designers capable to follow an interior design project in all its multiple aspects, interacting with other professionals, from the ideation to the final realization of a vessel in shipyards.


Course Coordinator
Massimo Paperini

He started his designer activity in 1980 when he designed Duck 31, then, until 1990, he dedicated himself to the design of IOR regatta boats, winners of sevaral national and international contests. In these years he works as FIV Advisor at the ORC in London for tonnage regulations.

From 1985 to 1990 he has been Team Manager in the FIV team at the World Championship of Height Sail and at the Admirals Cup.

From 1990 he devoted to the design of cruiser/raiser IMS boats and recently he dedicated himself to the design and refitting of maxy yachts.

From 2001 he has a course of �Allestimento Navale� at the Architecture Faculty of UNICAM in Ascoli and he teaches at IED in Rome.


Sponsorship
ADI Delegazione - ADI Centro


Partner Companies

- CANADOS Group

- Cantalupi lighting

- Cantalupi

- Duck design

- Yacht design � De Agostini Rizzoli Periodici

- Worldwide Woodcraft



The studies programme is articulated in three Areas:



1. Propedeutical: Naval architecture: history, evolution, design.

2. Interior Yacht Design: design (design and technical aspects), communication and marketing about

Interior Yacht Design

3. Design and Communication: production and development of the Project Work.





First Area � Propedeutical



General perspective summarizing all the historycal, and tecnical aspects of yacht design


Teachings:

- History and evolution of design

- Technics of naval building

- Design

- Materials and technology

- Equipments on board

- Maritime laws

- Deck equipment



Second Area � Training to Interior Yacht Design




Interior Yacht Design: General concepts


Interior yacht Design: tecnichal and design concepts



Teachings : Interior Yacht design: methods, technics and applications on different kind of ships

Training Workshop 1 � (Sail Maxi Yachts)

Training Workshop 2 � (Motor Yacht )

Training Workshop 3 � (Sail boat)

Training Workshop 4 � (Moto boats -)

- Ergonomy

- Materials,

- Structures

- Acustic equipment

- Lighting systems

- Interior Color design

- Refitting

- Marketing and communication

- Marketing/Nautical expos and fairs

- Custom and serie working

- Consumer psycology and relationship with the customer

- Serial building and customized building

- Consumers sociology

- Relationship beetwen designer and customer.

- Project communication





Third Area � Project and communication



Experimentation of graphic al technics of prject display. Production of thesis with teachers advise.



- Elaboration of the project work

- Communication of the project




Teaching Method

The course is structured on a dynamic methodology including: theoretic lessons, practical exercises, laboratory activities, visits to nautical design exhibition, yards, project offices, companies suppliers. Final work.

Stages are foreseen by the end of the course.


Students profile

Graduates in Architecture, Engineering, people with a degree in tecnical schools with naval specialization or coming from Interior Design Courses, profesionals. A knowledge of software for 2/3D technical design (Autocad, Rhinoceros etc) is required to follow the course.



Admission

The Master is opened to a maximum of 20 students. A selection will consider previous experiences and C.V., followed by a personal interview.


Duration

240 hours � 7 months


Starting date January 2006


Attendance

3 times a week � 3 hours lessons (18:30 � 21:30)



Cost

Euro 5.450,00 which includes:

Euro 980,00 enrolment fee

Euro 4.470,00 attendance fee.



Scolarships are forseen.



________________________

Alessia Vagliviello

Master Co-ordinator

Istituto Europeo di Design Roma

Via Alcamo, 11

00182 Roma

Tel. 06/7024025

Fax 06/7024041

E-mail: master@roma.ied.it

www.ied.it

gOOdLUcK!and i will b glad if we can keep in touch..

[RANCHI OTTO]

I, as italian, find the cost of the Master crazy (too expensive)

Try with ASPRONADI (Associazione Progettisti Nautica Diporto)

They have courses, very well done, and recognized from italian authority at the following e-mail address:

info@aspronadi.it

[testaverde]

ciAo Ranchi,
grazie tanto per l'informazione..sai c'é anche altri corsi o programmi di master in inglese(la,in italia)?non ho trovato ma forse hai un idee :confused: ..imparo l'italiano da 5 mesi,é difficileeeeeeeeeee :rolleyes: ciaO!

[RANCHI OTTO]

il turco è sicuramente più difficile per un italiano...

Che io sappia non ci sono altri corsi in inglese.

ciao 8

[Andres Palou]

Grazie Otto

I was wondering, if you have to hire someone for your business, would you prefer an architect with a Master in Yacht Design of Politecnico di Milano, di Ancona, or someone with the course of ASPRONADI?
Stavo domandandomi, se dovete assumere qualcuno per il vostro commercio, referireste un architetto con un Master in Yacht Design di Politecnico di Milano, Di Ancona, o qualcuno con il corso di ASPRONADI?
Ciao

[RANCHI OTTO]

My opinion is that it is not very important where and which kind of graduation do you have, but what are you able to do....

ciao

[Raggi_Thor]

You can also become a Msc in Norway,
http://www.ntnu.no/intersek/internationalmaster.htm
http://www.marin.ntnu.no/msc/Org.Fellesbrosjyre.pdf

[cyprianoo]

Hi,
Am happy to join this forum,I will like to be refered to a web that describes or explain details of different boat engines and how they work.
And also webs that explains different ways of powering boats.
I will be glad to have this links either online journals or articles will be appriciated a lot
if any one has done any related course on that, he can equally send me some materials if he has it online
hope to hear from you guys soon
cyprian

[rhiemstra]

Hello Mater in Yacht design wannebees.

Did you guys already have a look at the University of Southhampton?
They have a course "Yacht and small craft design" in both bachelor and master degree.

by the way, I'm also looking for a Yacht design course in master degree. Something like in Southampton but i'd rather go to New Zealand or the US. But I haven't found anything after searching the net.

bey, René

[fefo]

hi,
I'm fefo and I'm studing eng. of materials.. I would like to go to UK or australia for a master in yacht design.
do you know if there is a master in these states?

[qry]

hi rhiemstra & fefo,
In Australia and New Zealand you can find only transport design. Only the one in New Zealand -Massey University- is giving education about products that floats or flies under transport design course. All others are giving about motorcylces,cars,bus,trains etc. But the course in Massey is not a master degree programme. It is a bachelor degree programme and has 16.000 New Zealand Dolar price for one year of 4 years -you can finish in 3 years-.

In April, i went to Politechnico in Milano to take information about yacht design master. The book they showed me was about naval engineering tips on sail boats. I didn't go to the school in Roma but i think Istitute europeo in design -Roma- is better with 7 months than Politechnico with 13 months of education also with half price.

I looked nearly every school in the world who can take a master course finished in industrial product design. And find out that if you guys want to take more than "design" like naval engineering, there are 2 schools in England which are the best in the World.

One is New Castle University and the other is Southampton. I talked with a prof in New Castle giving Naval Engineering course and learned that if a designer like me, want to go, he or she has to take a certificate programme which ones content going to be prepared by the prof's of the school to get the base of naval eng. and if!!! it will be enough you will pass to the master course like small craft design which is up to 100mt long ships.

[Willallison]

The Maritime College of Tasmania (Australia) offers courses in Naval Architecture - though these tend to concentrate more on engineering larger ships and waterborne structures than small recreational craft