May I have the envelope please...

[Polarity]

And the winner is...

Option 1 - Trailerable, couple, home build $

1 Coastal hopping
2 Trailerable
3 Range 300 miles
4 Crew, 2 minimum
5 Price range, under 50K US, for home built.
6 Must be able to carry on a normal conversation at 3/4 throttle.

Thanks for all the votes and interest and welcome to all the new members signing on and contributing!

Right, getting to it:

Lets say - (s'cuse me being bossy :p ) that we are to draw up a full design so that it could be constructed easily by a smallish yard and at the same time the yard could sell bare hulls and kits for home completion - i.e that we don't have to consider the ease of construction of the hull so much but for everything else we do. - Also I don't know how designers get paid but maybe the yard could pay less than the going rate for the design up front in exchange for royalties on the kit sales... - and designing all the modifications for their home builders. - (comments on that one in a new thread please!!)

Gary (aka Duluthboats) would you enlighten us on the kind of conditions that will be encountered by this boat where you would like to cruise her - which may of course not be where you live... being trailerable and all :) ....

....Ok Here are some more immediate questions..

For use in the USA (hey ..if mine won it would have been Spain!) - what are the trailerable restrictions ?

Hull material ?

Propulsion
There is a thread already on this.

Budget: how much for a complete boat and how much for the kit at various stages.

Displacement/semi/planing?

Ballast

wiring, plumbing and electronics (hey I got to have some input into this!)

and about a thousand more questions..

So here's how it's a gonna work ....:D

For each of the important questions start a new thread and link it from this thread (I am sure Jeff will help out if you have problems with the technical side)

Discuss the elements that interest you, start new threads on anything not yet mentioned - serious disagreements can be resolved with a poll (or a coin :rolleyes: ).

I will try and gather up what we have so far occasionally as we go along. If anyone wants to draw it up - start a hull design thread - but, if steel (for example!) is the hot favourite for construction material then it would be nice to draw something constructable in steel.

Thanks to everyone for making this so entertaining!

Cheers!

Paul

[Polarity]

There is a discussion about this at
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=522

[Willallison]

Paul,

By suggesting that the boat be designed for professional build, followed by home completion, I wonder if we aren't moving away from one of Tom's core design criteria - that the vessel be home-buildable for under 50K US.
Having said that, it would allow, for instance, a professionally built f/glass hull followed by fit out / finish by the owner.....

As far as "where is the boat to be used", what if we each list the legislative requirements of each of our countries so that - if possible - it could legally be trailered by all of us. Here in Oz, for instance, the max width is 2.5m - it would be a shame if one of the core design objectives couldn't be met for the sake of a few inches.....

[Jeff]

At Gary's request, I've pulled some of the design ideas from the ends of the other threads (cruiser poll/outboard vs. inboard) into the following thread:
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=539

This is really coming along nicely.

(if you're wondering why I didn't merge them with this thread, vBulletin orders threads by the post time and date, so you can't merge in older posts at the end of a newer thread or they would appear at the top)

[Polarity]

What standard to use is being voted for here:

http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=549

Will, that was the idea, so that the hull should be pro build and then fitted out at home. That should bring it under the 50 K US$ ?

Paul

[mitch]

I own a 28 ft Bayliner and I have it on a triler. It weighs about 7500 lbs with a 10 ft beam It has a single OMC Cobra Drive and a Volvo 7.5 ltr.Or 454 ci. engine. My wife and I love it. It could sleep six at one time. Now we have a couch where the V berh was. We had the V berth taken out in order for a bow thruster to be installed. On a crusing boat, consider the water capacity and would someone try to modify it for a possable live aboard. Thats what I have done with my boat It might help. Neal

[Polarity]

Hi Mitch
Got any pic's?