Sidewinder information

[milford]

I am the original owner of a 1970 Cobra SS 16 ft boat. This is a Canadian built Super Sidewinder. I am compiling a Sidewinder history and would appreciate any information regarding Sidewinder Los Altos/Palo Alto/Anderson, CA and Mufreesboro, Tenn. Also infor re California Fiberglass Limited - the company that first made them in Canada. I am also collecting Sidewinder brochures. If anyone has any please let me know. I have several already and can put them on CD (or email them) in exchange for what I need.
I am also trying to get in touch with Ken Baker the founder - and designer - of Sidewinder boats. I have also set up a photo album of Sidewinder photos on an HP website and would be glad to include any others. Can anyone help me out?
Thanks, Dan

[Skeo]

Hi, I am a proud new owner of a Sidewinder Cobra SS. I'm new to the sidewinder name and would like as much information as I can find. What is the site URL where your pictures are posted?

[milford]

Please send me a photo of your boat and the serial number . I will post your photo in my album, send you the link, and tell you what I can about your boat. I will try to attach a photo of mine here. If it doesn't work email me direct at milford@kwic.com
Dan

[CBK]

Hello, I was also looking for information about Sidewinders that were made in Anderson, California. I have a Sidewinder that was manufactured in 1973 in Anderson, CA. Can I also have a link to your pictures? Thank you, CBK

[karl l]

Hello, I'm looking for information about Sidewinders made in Anderson, California. I have a 72 16Ft. Sidewinder outboard that was manufactured in Anderson, CA.
I want to restore it but need some info about the paint, seats and rug colors, what make and size of the outboard motor choices for it.

It sat since 1991 as a lawn ornamentand had grass and moss growing in it.
I'll be taking before and after pic's of the repairs if anyone is interested.

Also can I also have a link to your pictures?

Thanks

[Kevin in MI]

I picked up a 1970's Sidewinder yesterday (more likely it's a 72) it's blue it has a 70-hp chrysler outboard with auto tilt and trim. I would be very interested in any information having to do with finding original parts or accessories.

She's in really good shape for her age, the cup holders are rusty, there is a missing pass-through door to the bow area and stern light is missing.
The carpet needs replacing and the steering assembly was "fixed" some time ago and I would like to restore that also.

I have never seen one of these before yesterday but I am an instant fan.
This boat is a real head turner. Any advise or information would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Kevin Elnicky

[milford]

Hello Sidewinder fans;
These photos have taken me a couple of years to accumulate. If clicking on the link doesn’t take you to the album, then copy and paste the link into your browser. Click select and view to see individual photos and descriptions.
Here is the link to my 16-18 Sidewinders photo album (as of Nov. 30/04):

http://hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp.HPGuestLogin?username=milford&password=45128029

Here is the link to my 14 ft. Sidewinders photo album (as of Nov. 30/04):

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp.HPGuestLogin?username=milford&password=12081579

Here is the link to my Sidewinder Look-Alikes photo album (as of Nov. 30/04):

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/com.hp.HPGuestLogin?username=milford&password=54663882

If anyone has any Sidewinder (or look-alike) photos that I could post in my albums, please send them to me, along with pertinent information (including the serial number if possible) to sidewindersrcool@yahoo.ca. Periodically I will renew the links so everyone can access them. Enjoy! Dan

[Heather Davis]

I have a 1969 Sidewinder which needs a little restoration! I am looking at possibly selling it! Has a good motor and is original in color ( Green with Lime Green accents) Just wondering if anyone would be interested? Thanks from Oklahoma.

[Kevin in MI]

What type of engine does it have, would you be interested in selling some parts?

Thanks,

Kevin

[SOSsidewinder]

I work at a factory and performance boat repair facility in Granite Bay, CA. I bought a 73 cobra 16 two years ago and am getting ready to restore it. Due to the implements supplied by my job, I plan on converting the sidewinder from outboard motor to jet. However I need some close up pictures of a similar boat with a jet pump already installed. I need pictures of the bilge area and pump intake area to get an idea of how its all goin together.

Help from anybody would be apreciated.

Some brochures (or copies of) would be great too.

Thanks all!

Matthew (sossidewinder)

E-mail is trailerhut@yahoo.com

[Doug_M]

Hi guys,
Interesting reading. Ive got a circa 1972 sidewinder 18' with a 455 olds and a berkely drive. Does anyone happen to know if you can still get the original fiberglass enging covers?

[Frosty]

We used to race sidewinders in uk about the 70's they were very popular. However the british made Phantom would beat the pants of em. Some thing about cornering . I remember one that had a Big Johnson 235( not a good choice I agree) and it just would not go round -- just went hard up on one chine. Ther were'nt too bad with a 8ohp Yam, but the Phantom kept on taking it.

[Skeo]

I have I 14' Sidewinder Cobra. (Probably mid-late 80's) I was wondering what pitch of propeller to put on it. I have a 1982-ish era Johnson 70hp engine on it. Also, I was wondering what size of engine I could put on it? Can I use a 120hm without modification?

Thanks a lot!

[cyclops]

www.fiberglassics.com Has info on the Sidewinder, look at the boats section, then Sidewinder, then brouchere. Also do a web search on sidewinder boats.

[7273sidewinder]

Hi, Is there anyone out there that has a 1972 or 1973 Sidewinder that is interested in selling it -----Whole or parts?

[Kevin in MI]

The boat is a bow rider, it has a electric start 70 hp Chrysler motor auto tilt and trim. I believe it is a 72. I have pictures I can email to you if you are interested.

My boat mechanic stated he he's never seen that engine in such good condition, it has not been rebuilt, the main seal has never been cracked. starts instantly and purrs like a kitten.

Kevin Elnicky

[Kevin in MI]

The boat is a bow rider, it has a electric start 70 hp Chrysler motor auto tilt and trim. I believe it is a 72. I have pictures I can email to you if you are interested.

My boat mechanic stated he he's never seen that engine in such good condition, it has not been rebuilt, the main seal has never been cracked. starts instantly and purrs like a kitten.

Kevin Elnicky

[Kevin in MI]

The boat is a bow rider, it has a electric start 70 hp Chrysler motor auto tilt and trim. I believe it is a 72. I have pictures I can email to you if you are interested.

My boat mechanic stated he he's never seen that engine in such good condition, it has not been rebuilt, the main seal has never been cracked. starts instantly and purrs like a kitten. It has the original tilting trailer also.

Kevin Elnicky

[jjtaylor58]

I have a 71 sidewinder for sale if you are interested in it. It is a jet drive with a 305 chevy in it. Please leave me know if you are still looking for 1...Thanks...Jim

[Russ Sobolewski]

I would be interested in seeing your before and after pics as I am just about to embark on a similar journey.

regards

[scott8370]

I might be interested in selling a 73 Sidewinder 19' XL 455ci Berkley drive. Stored for 30 yrs. in warehouse. Orange in color,orange seats, orange carpet.Original Dilly trailer.I have all the manuals and paper work.Perfect cond! (everything) even the paper work

[fretmonger]

Do you have any pics of the Sidewinder 19 XL you could email me???
fretmonger@hotmail.com

[scott8370]

FRETMONGER
Yes i do have pics. I'll send some tonight

[fretmonger]

Awesome... Thanks Dude.

[pronto]

I have a 1970 Sidewinder Super 18' set up for a Chevy small block and a Mercury I/O just rebuilt. My boat was bulit in the first year that Ken Baker (WORLD SPEED RECORD HOLDER) patented the hull and is complete and ready for restoration. Free and clear title and Coast Guard Manufacture plate is intact, red and silver metal flake hull with white rolled interior. This is the original Havasu "BAD BOY" of ski boats. only one found with I/O unit and V8,

[Sydewynder]

I have a early 70's sidewinder boat 4 sale...black metallic with 75hp flying scott motor and trailer...Motor needs starter repair runs good otherwise, boat needs some int repair seats and clean up...$2000 CDN winter price...vtronics@hotmail.com

[71sidewinder]

do you have any pictures of your boat?

[71sidewinder]

I have a 71 inboard 454hp sidewinder I am looking to restore and need any pictures that I can find. If anyone has any I would certainly appriciate it.

[69 sidewinder]

I own a 1969 18 foot sidewinder with a 120 Mercruiser I/O. I have recently spent a lot of money on this boat and it is now ready to sell. The hull is in good shape, all new Beede Guages, MAJOR drive service- resealed, pressure tested, sea water pump, engine water pump, hoses, bellows THE WORKS!! I would like to sell this to someone who will appreciate it, if anyone wants it Im thinking about $5,000. There are alot of other new parts and a good trailer with this boat. This boat is turn key river ready. Please E-Mail me with a reply if you want it. It will also go in the Boat Tader online and probably EBAY

[dapperdan]

Do you have pictures? Please send

Thanks

algross41@comcast.net

[karl l]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.


Hi, Is there anyone out there that has a 1972 or 1973 Sidewinder that is interested in selling it -----Whole or parts?

[ironworker]

I just bought a 1972 18 footet w/ a 140 outboard from my dad. I love it and would never sell. What a fun boat. I have seen some postings on ebay though. Good luck!

[bostonsidewinde]

I HAVE A 1972 WITH GM 454 AND BERKLEY JG SPLIT BOWL PUMP FOR SALE. I'M IN MASS THE BOAT STARTS INSTANTLY, NEEDS WINDSHIELD, AND SOME INTERIOR /SEAT WORK. audiobill5@hotmail.com

[stormen]

yes I have a 70- 73 sidewinder runabout 4cly inboard- out board mercriser hull I.D swm1745 needs work ,but engine is in good shape, I have it in calif. right now

[Newt]

You buys bring back memories:) I had a 70's 16' Super Sidewinder outboard. It was powered with a Mercury 115HP. This was back when stainless props were just coming out. I ran it with an OMC SST prop. Bauman Propellers of Houston rehubbed the prop. The color was blue metalflake with silver trim. Upholstery was white with blue trim. Carpet was a medium to dark blue. I had a lot of good times in that boat.

[bill ks]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.
i have a 72 open bow that needs a drivers seat as well as bumper molding

[Turtleherder]

I have a 1972 14' Sidewinder that I restored. It did not have the chrome sidewinder script side emblems and I was wondering if anyone had two that they would sell me?

[Twister]

I have recently finished restoring a 1977 Twister (Looks just like a sidewinder). Does anyone know the history of the twister version or any information on it at all? Also I am looking for a replacment windshiel...and help with this would be GREATLY appreciated!

Tahnks!

[stormen]

it seems you have to add e mail address to your photos for others to view them. my e mail is norman@vannoy.com would you please add mine i would like to see them.

[Twister]

I did not have any photos posted. I will drag a few up and e-mail them to you!

[bostonsidewinde]

Sidewinder Windshields Are Priced Pretty Low At Midday Plastics 425-883-4600, Talk To Linda

[stormen]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.



was wondering what parts you still have, what size was your boat

[Turtleherder]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.


Do you still have the chrome side logos? If you do I would be interested.

[sspeed66]

Hello there. I recently aquired a sidewinder 16 ft outboard, and was wondering if someone can decipher my serial number, which is - 6SS140-11 ???

[skidoodave]

Hi, Iam in the middle of restoring a 16' Super Sidewinder and need some bits and pieces. I am looking for at least one side emblem in any condition ( both would be great), the coast guard capacity plate for any 16 or 18 foot outboard model and the light sockets that mount to the back of the front nav light bezels. Any idea what max recommended HP would be for a 16'.

Thanks, Dave

[cantrucker]

iv read 135 hp max but ive seen em fly with a 200 black max

[cantrucker]

mine came with a 115 merc but id like 150-175

[side2]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.

do you still have parts(guages, steering wheel, trim moldings) if you do please contact me

[side2]

looking for guages, steering wheel,metal trim,for my 1972 18' jet sidewinder, also does anyone have pics on the support under the bow, I just bought the boat off ebay someone has removed some of the structure under the bow I need to see how it was from factory, plus the seats how were the seats secured, were they fiberglassed down or were they somehow bolted to were you could remove them if needed, the way they are now is it looks like someone had there 5 year old try to glass them down (fiberglass & bondo) if you have any info or pics please help thank you

[side2]

hey milford I have the original bro. from 71 can copy for you.
side2

[sspeed66]

Hello. The gauges for your boat I believe would have been Teleflex brand. The ones with a shiny silver centre surrounded with a blue line. Best bet would be to search for gauges under 'boat parts' on ebay. I have some, but not in good shape. The original steering wheel is a 12" black foam grip with a 3" dish. Ebay- search for 'grant steering' or 'superior' or ' the 500'. New ones are fairly inexpensive, less than $50. I just cut out all the under bow structure on my 16' the other day. All it was, was (3 )- 3/8 plywood sections about 10 to 12 inches wide running across , glassed in with a 2 mat layup. On top of that running longitudinally, fore and aft, was a piece of 3/4 or 1" plywood crudely glassed in. All was in my opinion very substandard, hence the sunken dash and cracked windshield. I will be putting down a multi layer of roving and mat to the underneath of the deck to strenthen the entire surface, after which I'll glass in a considerably more stout stucture made from 2" square aluminum tubing. The back to back seats in my boat are glassed down, but not by a 5 year old. I would like to know which sidewinder you bought, as I have been watching them on ebay for quite a while. I am looking for an 18' jet sidewinder myself. Yes, I have the top half of my boat cut off, so if you really need pics, I could take some... SSPEED66

[side2]

how are milford tryn to check out your pics cant get to them is there a secret, keeps sending me to snapfish thanks
side2

[side2]

Thanks Sspeed66 That Info Is Great If You Could Take Those Pics That Would Be Great, Every Little Thing Helps, I Cant Wait To Get This Baby Out On The Water, Its The Second One In The Family The Last One Burned Or Should I Say Melted 13 Years Ago To The Date, Some ***** Shooting Bottle Rockets At Houses, They Got Ours And Our 71 Super Sidewinder (in Mint Condition) So You Can See This One Means A Alot To Me I Want To Make It True, I Cant Wait But Still Taking My Time To Do It Correct Thank You Again
Side2

[stormen]

hey karl iwas wondering if you still had any parts left

[sspeed66]

Hey Side2. There is a set of gauges on ebay right now, $20, no bids so far. Get into "boat parts", then use the search box & type in "dash panel" It probably won't be ALL the gauges you need for your Sidewinder, but it would get you started in the right direction. Teleflex superceded those with ones that are better looking & have a red needle,(from the mid to late 70's). Also, Stewart Warner made a "blue line" gauge in the same era that has a flourescent orange & flat black needle. Very cool looking gauge.The highest demanded gauges are SW "Green Line", the KING of COOL. I own samples of all these gauges if you want pics, kind of addicting collecting cool old gauges. I refurbish them myself if they are in halfass decent shape.

[side2]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.

what do you have if anything by now let me know i have a72 that needs a few things

[16 Samuri 225]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.what parts do you still have and how close are you to long island? my name is rusty , thank you

[16 Samuri 225]

ive been tryin to put my boat toether for quite some time now. But its real close now i need a windsheild and some seats thanks alot

[bostonsidewinde]

If anyone is looking for a winter project? I have an 18' 454 powered Berleley JG pump is ready to have someone do some TLC and bring it back to new again.
Has trailer, engine starts instantly and runs strong, needs windshield(from Midday plastics is the cheapest:425-883-4600). Wiring is new, gauges and interior are fair. Bill cell:617-697-0477. thanks.

[intakexhaust]

Fun reading from fellow Sidewinder enthusiast. I have an original 1973 Sidewinder 16' (everything from the prop to paint - including paperwork, brochures). Rated HP is 135, however it's had a Merc (inline 6) 150HP on it since new and the transom has held it perfect. Her stern does sit low but to answer your question, I believe it could handle a 175hp. However, expect chinewalking to start at 70 mph and to ease your mind, I suggest having trim tabs or stabilizer's. This particular little boat still turns heads and runs a comfy 65 with cheap aluminum props and depending on conditions (prop, water, etc.) will run a tad over 70 with a stainless 13x23 prop. A fresh water boat that is used every year April thru Nov. Never moored in the water but on a Shorestation. Today it gets pulled for winter storage.

[16 Samuri 225]

I have a 1969 Sidewinder which needs a little restoration! I am looking at possibly selling it! Has a good motor and is original in color ( Green with Lime Green accents) Just wondering if anyone would be interested? Thanks from Oklahoma.

hello Heather i have the same boat and def would love to have another please let me know my e mail is conquestrunin@aol.com have a great day!

[16 Samuri 225]

scott the boat sounds amazing i have a 1972 looka like with an outboard 225 love to see pictures of your boat if you have any

[fretmonger]

Hey all... there is a new forum that is just starting up regarding Sidewinder Boats... The old ones... you know.. the COOLEST LOOKING BOATS EVER!!!!
http://realityboatco.com/sidewindertalk/YaBB.pl this is the temp link for now. Go and check it out. Its new so please come in and share your stories and photos of the timeless classics.

[fretmonger]

hey milford I have the original bro. from 71 can copy for you.
side2

Hey Side2... could you please share that info over @ http://realityboatco.com/sidewindertalk/YaBB.pl its a new forum dedicated to Sidewinder fans alike. Thanks

[Wayne24]

I ma the owner of a 1975 sidewinder with a 90 hp johnson seahorse. I had never heard of a sidewinder before and i really love the boat. My wife and I are looking to restore it to original condition (color and all) but we have no information about the boat in order to do that. Could someone send pics of other sidewinders or offer info on where to find this information. Thanks
email is : tchiswell@charter.net

[RealityBoatCo]

It is easy to find. www.sidewinder-boats.com

[silvspoons]

Hi I just cut up my 1972 sidewinder but held on to some parts from it that were still good. let me know what you need.

what parts do you have . interested in the windshield do you have and is it in good shape.
email me some pics of extra parts please Rice.e@comcast.net

[csmith@ises.ca]

I have a 1973 18" Sidewinder built in Oro Ontario Canada. Still in mint shape.
Have a Merc Optimax 150 on it and get about 70 mph. If you would like a picture E mail me

[mwindward]

I have recently acquired what I believe to be a 1970 sidewinder ss14. I think it's a 1970 because it was made in palo alto cal. I am very much hooked on this boat and am undertaking a complete rebuild on the fiberglass hull. I would love to know as much about this boat as possible. I love the lines of this boat and i'm prepared to spend whatever it takes to make this boat the "eyecatcher" it was meant to be, as well as the fastest 14 in New England.

[Bat Boat]

Hi Group.

I am looking to buy a windshield for a 16' sidewinder SS. Please let me know if anyone has one ljharrison@rogers.com.

Thanks.

[Alice50]

Hi Everyone, I have a 1973 Sidewinder I/O, 165 Merc Cruse that I am interested in selling.... The boat has been garage kept for 30 years and every year waxed by me.... I would like it to go to someone who REALLY would appreciate it. I have photos to show, if interested, please contact me at JFical2244@aol.com

[dapperdan]

Is the boat still for sale? Please email photos.

Regards,

Al Gross
algross41@comcast.net

[GG]

many -many years ago i worked at thompson boats in st. charles mich , doing fiberglass repair , we made sidewinder's and most of them had berkely jet drives , some with an I/O and were all metal flake . tod ward did the design and most likely it was a take off - look a like . G.G.

[dakotart24]

hi all i just purchased a boat for all i know it's a sidewinder but can u people help me to identify this boat and if yes where i could get part's for like seats and windshield

thank's yall
happy boating

[milford]

I have seen a similar boat - with the foil - built by Fibertron - although I think it was a clone of a 14 ft. Super Sidewinder. As far as I know the original Sidewinder did not come with that foil so it may also be an add on. Do you have the HIN for this boat??
Dan

[arlee52]

we own a '75 cobra 16 foot for sale minor scratches in the hull -otherwise in great shape has 115hp evinrude in good shape=turqoise and silver in colour

[Dawn2it]

Hi, Is there anyone out there that has a Sidewinder I/O that is interested in selling it ??? I did own one in 1971 and looking for same boat

I was in Warsaw Indiana when I owned the Sidewinder I/O

Now in West Palm Beach Florida, will travel, have cash

[luiz2006]

I have a sidewinder hull in very good shape and looking for mast, boom and a complete spars. may i can sell it. buti live in PA. my to far way. Thanks

[little1chick]

i have a 71 0r 72 cobra sidewinder 16 ft jet drive w/ 454 bb looks and runs good but need some info and may be for sale shortly if we don't use it its gotta go too many toys and not enough hours i am looking for info on how to know what year it is exactly and why its called a cobra sidewinder and not just a sidewinder