What the heck is this and where can I buy plans?!?!?! see new video!

[newinertia]

Im in lust! :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDqD9WyRoQ0

SDqD9WyRoQ0&hl

[Manie B]

Very powerfull tiny little tug hey

rather unusual :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SAi9oVL4X0&feature=related


8SAi9oVL4X0

[newinertia]

Thats great footage as well- I wonder if that could be accomplished with a Lister 16/2 clone? but about 50% bigger everywhere! Did you notice they were all steel construction! Thats my kind of style, just really need more above the waterline.

[WestVanHan]

Would be interesting,but I'm sure the 16/2 (16hp) weighs about 1600 pounds,with 600+ of that being flywheels.

I dont think a little boat bobbing about with those flywheels would be a good thing.

[BHOFM]

With a passenger, it might be a submarine?

Does not look safe to me!

[Boston]

had that about to be swamped look to it but with a little more free board might be kinda fun to cruse around in

[Herman]

These nifty little boats pushed around larger barges in the flatlands in the Netherlands. Not too much chop, so no real problems with freeboard.

Many of them have been scrapped, but some are still used by enthousiasts, and boy scouts, who use them to drag their sailboats from place to place.

[apex1]

Just goes to show there are a lot of dumbasses on this site that have given me bad info on how small a steel boat can be! A few of you claim to be experts in the field of marine design, but I keep hearing a bunch of malarky! Open ye mouth and spew your prophecies and forecastings of failure and drowning!
I think its a cool boat, I didnt ask for a bunch of pussies to criticize! Take your millionaire has been customers and keep living in a dream world, I know what would sell, and it aint yachts! PROVE ME WRONG! Who in the last month has taken an order for anything over $20K for a private customer?

I cannot find a point here where you had been misinformed. Have´nt seen a designer or NA replying here so far, nor did I notice pussies around. Maybe it´ll get better when you stop drinking for a while?

To the question of expertise; your last question Mr. Walker shows a lack of that too! Would you have asked for sales BELOW a given figure (say 2 mio $), you might ave got the reply expected, but the market above is still alive (as allways in a crisis). I have sold "anything" above 20K$, one gearbox on a new order was above that price, the boat will have two of them and a surrounding structure with electric lighting!

Regards
Richard

[Boston]

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[newinertia]

See what I mean! A steel boat can take anything! It did not sink! Granted, the dummy fell off the boat, but show me a fiber plastic anything that could take that!

[WestVanHan]

but I keep hearing a bunch of malarky! Open ye mouth and spew your prophecies and forecastings of failure and drowning!

I watched the video,saw the water covering the stern of the thing and nearly making it over the bow,in very minor chop.
Take it out in some waves and see what happens.
Be sure to wear a lifejacket and have a chase boat.


I think its a cool boat, I didnt ask for a bunch of pussies to criticize! Take your millionaire has been customers and keep living in a dream world, I know what would sell, and it aint yachts! PROVE ME WRONG! Who in the last month has taken an order for anything over $20K for a private customer?

What did you expect-hundreds of weeping confessions of admiration?

Please tell us what will sell.

You like it,good for you..now get on google and find some plans.

BTW,have a broker friend-he's doing well

[sabahcat]

I watched the video,saw the water covering the stern of the thing and nearly making it over the bow,in very minor chop.
Take it out in some waves and see what happens.
Be sure to wear a lifejacket and have a chase boat.

I agree, looked like a friggen death trap to me.

Just like if I got my 11.5 foot tender and strapped a 200hp outboard on the back

You like it,good for you..now get on google and find some plans.

And here they are

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/gill/tug/index.htm

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/gill/tug/Tugboat-156-400.jpg

[Herman]

I do not like the tone of both newinertia and apex1, and will flag this thread for a moderator.

Discussion is always good, people can have different meanings (and stick to that) but from the way you are "discussing" no-one gains. Especcially not the reader. I suggest you continue your discussions over private message or Email.

[Boston]

ya I gotta go with apex on this one
not sure what set newinertia off but he seemed like he was just looking to bate anyone who made comment

[mark775]

Herman, step away from the bottle. Synapseinertia is obviously a kook but Apex didn't do anything wrong!
Flagging for moderator...I've got some threads for you to consider...

[daiquiri]

It's a sweet little toy, and it gives a new meaning to the expression "wet transom" ;)

[mark775]

They use boats that look like this for pushing logs;

36308
...but they are nearly impossible to roll and are sealed against water intrusion.

[boat fan]

O K ....


newinertia , I think you actually highlighted the problem with steel boats ...when they are built in this diminutive size.
This boat is not safe for any kind of water that is not totally flat , all of the time.The boat is clearly grossly over powered and , in fact is sinking down into its self generated hull wave.

I believe that the wake this little boat produces is actually quite unacceptable.
Then again , if you want to buy diesel just to push a lot of water around , its your money after all.:D :D :D

That little tug would benefit a great deal from being a little larger.At very little cost ,and in steel, I might add.
It could then be quite a nice little boat. As it is now , its a pig !!!!

Your manners however ( or rather lack of ) need more attention than the boat.

You would benefit a great deal more if you built some character first , and not a boat .

Unhappy childhood ?

[WestVanHan]

I think Apex did a good enough job on him,beating me to him,after us/him being called a "slimy bastard,dumbasses,and pussies".

He may have gotten a better response if he had the smarts to post it under "Boat Design" or "Powerboats" instead of "Diesel Engines"

[mark775]

With his attitude, I don't think he'll ever get a good response, Han.

[KnottyBuoyz]

I'm enjoyin' this! http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/KnottyBuoyz/Junk/popcorn.gif

As for the boat, well, as has been said, nice toy.

[srimes]

I find it hard NOT to like the boat. Sure, it's overloaded by a huge engine that occupies the whole "cabin." There's barely room for 1 person and it's only (barely) safe in protected waters, but hey, it's cool as heck, like a silly hot rod (vw bug w/ a blown 454 type thing).

I love the sound and seeing it idle at what, 20 rpm? I'd love to see that motor in a boat twice as big.

[newinertia]

Thanks- That was all I was saying!

[Knut Sand]

But who did build that friggin' glasshouse around us free spirits?:confused:

Btw, since the lewel here now is so low that I can safely enter:


A cute little boat.
Almost the same sound from the engine as in my litte boat. (listerpetter)
Towing, in flat water, the bow waves will be smaller.
Submerged deck aft is also no problem in flat waters.

If not pulling,or intending to pull something, this little piece will be for the ones with a special interest (see pt 3), for us others, who kinda like to see the horizon; not an option.

[Jeff]

Moderator Note: once again, I've tried to clean up this thread deleting the insults and attacks and replies to them. Please, please, let's keep the forums civil and on-topic and an enjoyable place to visit and share opinions positive and negative. I don't understand why someone was inflamed here, so I'll leave it at that.

[Knut Sand]

Moderator... Hi there!
No need to take away that about Lister diesels and those pure at heart!;)

Rest is accepted, without any objections. btw thanks for trying to keep us behave properly...

[WestVanHan]

I could have posted this when the whole thing started,but a bad attitude made me choose not to.

However I'm sure others will appreciate them as I do,something with the same general look and at least useful.

Tons of room,a head,standing headroom,and can sleep in them.

http://www.benford.us/index.html?pcty/

http://www.benford.us/pdf/PCTY.pdf

[boat fan]

..... I'm sure others will appreciate them as I do,something with the same general look and at least useful.

Tons of room,a head,standing headroom,and can sleep in them.

Yes West V.Han , a little better than that other death trap....:D

[daiquiri]

Yes West V.Han , a little better than that other death trap....:D

Don't let Sean Herron see this one, he'll faint... :P

[apex1]

Yes West V.Han , a little better than that other death trap....:D

Hmm,
that seems to be a nice one, and it will not capsize when a gull sh!ts on deck.