I need a new computer but I dont want to spend any money.

[Frosty]

Yup its about dead, 5 years old,-- Compac presario 2200, soooo slow especially now ive down loaded Microsofts flight simulator.

Everyone says I need this I need that, like 2 gig ram duo processor, video cards etc etc WTF.

Xp proffesional,-- linux? my head hurts.

I cant decide because there is too much. 3 floors of stalls selling computers.

Do I need more than 2 gig to run flight sim, some one told me I need 4?

Whats a duo? Should I go Mac, why?

Im just a simple man,-- e mail hotmail crap and a bit of surfing on the web.

[boat fan]

GOOD NEWS FROSTY >>>>NO YOU DON`T !!!!! (need a new computer that is ).....

Trouble is Frosty that bloody software is getting hungrier all the time.

More memory more Ram ...blah .......blah...You don`t need any of that crap....clean install your xp , save your important files on an external hard drive......BINGO..fast computer again.

If you want to play the latest games , simulators etc get an x box.

Then your computer will still do the job ....heck get a used x box for almost nix,,,,,,....;)..

OR ...waste your money on THIS YEARS LATEST CRAP ...will be " obsolete in 6 months anyway..:p :p :p


Your Comp.is not dead...clean install windows or whatever your`e running ...you will think its a new machine . I do it every year.

[Manie B]

The reality is that if you aren't a computer fundie you basically have to buy a new computer every 5 years anyway. I am sitting with the same problem on my old PC here = slow. My son's newish HP Pavillion DV6000 laptop with Windows Vista runs like a dream, my old XP has slowed to a crawl. The answer is basically that you have to spend that kind of money on a regular basis, my wife works for a gaint pharmaceutical company and they also clean out every 4 to 5 years. The DIY home type of computer "expert" can build and assemble all day long, and when you get there they are forever working on "breakdowns" always just a little something here or there. That is all crap. I now only buy from the regular computer store that gives me a fetch and fix gaurantee for sometimes 2 years. For the past 5 years i have had NO NOTHING PROBLEMS, when something did go wrong i took it in and had it back the next day FREE. The programs and software grow and get improved all the time, and you have to grow with it. I know a lot of folks will want to hang me after this, but bottom line is i will never again buy from the "backyard" expert that runs all this wierd and wonderfull sh1t

right click on your bottom tool bar
a window will appear and click task manager
there you will see 2 tabs = processes and performance
on processes you can see what is slowing your computer down and try to eliminate some of them - games is a no no
the performance tab shows you your CPU usage and the page file history
CPU could be as low as 1% to 7% if you are only on DB.net
pagefile could be down to 476 mb if this is a "high" graph your computer will be slow

it's not greek - play around - you cant cause any damage - dont worry

[Frosty]

CPU usage is7% and PF is 371!!!!

It was ok till some one gave me the flight sim, its great fun but im not prepared to buy the computer that people say I need to run it. It was given to me for looking after a boat , it looks like it gonna cost me. It doesnt run very well on my comp at the moment.

They --the comp nerds --show me a computer --yeah this is ok for what you need, then I say I want to run a flight sim and they point to the one above,-- it is twice the price. The sim will have to do what it has to do,-- run or not.

Any way what is this duo processor thing, I don't need that do I.

Compac, Asusa, Toshiba, all similar at about 500 dollars. Some cheaper.

Yeah its 5 years old or more, never had any trouble with it, weighs a ton though.

So whats an x box? some kind of external hard drive? I use a Kingston stick for sensitive memory.

I still got a load of discs frm when I bought it, the self repair (re store) thing stopped working some time back.

[wardd]

im thinking about building a new computer from parts and im up to $1257 us

the cheapest way to increase an old computers performance is to add memory if it can be utilized by windows, which in xp seems to be 4 gig

for games a newer video card

next upgrade would be larger disks

after that its a new computer

in the mean time you can rid it of background process that you dont need, defrag your hard disk, empty the browser cache, ie do a general clean up of the system

[PAR]

Frosty, it's very likely you have a bunch of stuff wrong with your machine right now. Corrupt registry entries, malicious software, adware and in general a computer environment that is serious need of cleaning.

It's always wise to max out the RAM capabilities on any machine, if you want performance. It's also wise to turn off all the bells and whistles you XP loads as a default setup.

Hire a geek to clean up your registry, remove all the expired crap from your machine and "tune up" the environment. A few simple registry entries with a configuration editor can make a big difference. And get the RAM, flying games eat RAM for breakfast.

[Fanie]

Flight simulator on a boat :D That makes a lot of sense :D Sure sign of low performing Yanmar engines ;)

[Manie B]

and just in case you dont do this often

should be done once a week

left click MY Computer
right click C Drive
left click properties
left click disk clean up - follow thru

then once a month

in that properties window
left click tools
error check and fix file systems errors
and Defragment
it may take a couple of hours initially or if you haven't done it recently

do this before you go to bed and let it run thru the night
tomorrow things are much better

[PAR]

Maine, those two functions will not help much. He needs a better grip on what he's doing or has to hire a geek.

[dskira]

You should look toward the brand "Happiness".
They make very good one :)
Daniel

[Frosty]

Im going to do what mannie says. I hope it blows up then the wife will let me A/ hire a geek , B/ buy a new computer.

I dont know any geeks, I know a Greek! will that do?

Why dont they just fit a ---clean my computer button--

[Manie B]

since i contracted the terminal disease 'Buildi Boatus" my missus watches my "medical bills" with a hawks eye
so i cant buy a new computer because i have spent my allowance on my sickness :P

so what i found works well with this computer nonsense is swear at it
i dont know if the stupid thing understands when i call it names - but it makes me feel much better :o

[masalai]

A piece of paper, pencil and abacus?

Otherwise, How much can you afford? flightsim needs lots of power and memory to do the calculations and good video drivers with its own RAM so as not to cramp the style of your processor.... I like Nvidia graphics driver chips and AMD Phenom quad 64 cpu with at least 4GB RAM and a fast 150GB+ HDD, (personal data is kept on an external terrabyte WD "Elements" HDD), as well as a DVD burner and a pair of LCD 1920 x 1080 screens (or three (3) if you like one screen in front and one for each side so you can see what you just missed (or didn't), Then a full "aircraft style" controls (twin throttles, pedals and all the other setting stuff, and whilst there get a fourth screen to show all the relevant instruments) - then offer "play time" to all the nut-cases at $50 / 30 minutes (gotta make a profit while you can?)...

If you can do without games, install XP (make sure you carefully look after the CD as support will cease soon) and de-fragment the HDD regularly... Buy a terrabyte external HDD that plugs into the USB2 port to put all your personal data files on - do not change/delete files on this as it will take about a week to de-fragment.... Else I will send you a CD with Linux Mint that will do most things you can with XP now except run windowsXP application packages unless you learn more about Linux and how to use "wine" which links windows executables to run under Linux.... Linux is not bothered by viruses and does not need to be de-fragmented and can read and write to all your old files on floppies, CD's and other removable media...

[Manie B]

Frosty one thing that you must always remember

you must always have an up to date modern fast computer

how else ya gonna search for crew

http://wickedweasel.com/en-za/ww_model_galleries/2149

beautifull white beaches, mild winds, torquose waters, plenty fresh air
heaven is a place on earth

if this doesn't get you going nothing ever will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zvDmLnBgTs&feature=fvst



"the hills are alive with the sound of music"
do a dear oh deary me
ray a drop of golden sun
me i goin there sooooon



and no i haven't started drinking yet only 11h55
gotta wait 4,5 hours :idea:
then i can work on my boat

la di la la la

[Manie B]

oops sorry back to computers where were we again

oh shit i forgot:P

[Manie B]

this could me my last post
another load of wood just arrived
the missus is gonna fu3k me up tonight when she gets home
Mas i'll have to come and work for you - sleep in the yard :D

[Frosty]

A piece of paper, pencil and abacus?

Otherwise, How much can you afford? flightsim needs lots of power and memory to do the calculations and good video drivers with its own RAM so as not to cramp the style of your processor.... I like Nvidia graphics driver chips and AMD Phenom quad 64 cpu with at least 4GB RAM and a fast 150GB+ HDD, (personal data is kept on an external terrabyte WD "Elements" HDD), as well as a DVD burner and a pair of LCD 1920 x 1080 screens (or three (3) if you like one screen in front and one for each side so you can see what you just missed (or didn't), Then a full "aircraft style" controls (twin throttles, pedals and all the other setting stuff, and whilst there get a fourth screen to show all the relevant instruments) - then offer "play time" to all the nut-cases at $50 / 30 minutes (gotta make a profit while you can?)...

If you can do without games, install XP (make sure you carefully look after the CD as support will cease soon) and de-fragment the HDD regularly... Buy a terrabyte external HDD that plugs into the USB2 port to put all your personal data files on - do not change/delete files on this as it will take about a week to de-fragment.... Else I will send you a CD with Linux Mint that will do most things you can with XP now except run windowsXP application packages unless you learn more about Linux and how to use "wine" which links windows executables to run under Linux.... Linux is not bothered by viruses and does not need to be de-fragmented and can read and write to all your old files on floppies, CD's and other removable media...

You see --thats what I was afraid of, can you do that in English.

I need all that for Hotmail?

I dont care if the flight sim dont work -it was a gift thats gonna turn out costing me much much more than the gift so it has two choices.

Mannie I pushed those buttons you told me to and it did it, well it did something. But its no faster,---- it still takes me ages to type a post!!!.

Whats that X box someone mentioned? is it an external drive that I can hold the flight sim in.

I can hear you laughing,--Ok im not a computer wiz kid.

[wardd]

geekish sounding but check for newer drivers

[Frosty]

But I am new driver,--- well only about 5 years.

I have decided to get a hard on drive duo bits and bites. It will have a bi- lingual double screen visual compliance with automatic diversion control.

The key board will be coke oriented weather proof fart compliant with suggestion ports and floppish drives.

Ramy romy stiff 3 gig bit and HRt doodle buttons.

You just wait till you got a problem with you engines --In gonna laugh my cock off.

[boat fan]

Frosty listen .....Save all your files on an external hard disk.Their`e not expensive , and keep all the files you want safe.

Keep copies of all your programs there too , unless you have them on cd.

Then clean install win doze xp on your computer. It will run like the day you first got it.

Your registry is messed up.You can get registry cleaners to help but you probably have sh1t loads of fragments and remnants of files , corrupted data , maybe Malware , spyware or even virus etc on there.Some malicious programs can be on your machine without your anti - virus picking it up. All or any of these things can slow your machine .Win Doze is not good at cleaning up after itself either. Their Firewall is a joke too. Just clean install xp .It will fix all your problems.

Then get all the updates ( Microsoft will send them automatically anyway )

Not hard to do.Can send you instructions if you get stuck. If you don`t want to spend a heap of cash , its the ONLY way to go.

[PAR]

Doing a clean XP install is foolish, not to mention unnecessary. Hell you'll have to be on line several hours, just getting all the service pack updates.

Call a geek, max your RAM, maybe a new graphics card, if you insist on playing with your joy stick. Then learn how to keep your system clean in the future.

[boat fan]

Doing a clean XP install is foolish, not to mention unnecessary. Hell you'll have to be on line several hours, just getting all the service pack updates.

Call a geek, max your RAM, maybe a new graphics card, if you insist on playing with your joy stick. Then learn how to keep your system clean in the future.


Nonsense.

The updates are set to auto.

With broadband your`e online all the time anyway ! At least I am .

As for the service packs ...if you have xp you should have service pack 2 at the very least...(unless your xp disc is REALLY ancient :D ). Service pack 3 is no problem to update , and you would only be doing a clean install ONCE anyway.

Like I said I do it routinely every year ...If you want a clean fast machine its the ONLY way . IT CERTAINLY IS NOT FOOLISH , AND ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY if you have a badly corrupted registry.

You are giving very bad advice PAR.!!!!!

A clean install does absolutely no harm to your system or machine , quite the opposite in fact. It restores your registry to the state is was when you purchased it. ( If that`s foolish PROVE IT !!!!!)

Registry cleaners all have warnings advising you to take extreme caution when using them... Do you know why ? I do ....they often not only remove the rubbish but often also other files or parts of files that xp requires to operate properly.

Some sophisticated viruses hide in parts of your registry and activate themselves every time xp starts, in fact they often MUTATE so that anti virus software cannot trace all and quarantine it.Some can even CLONE themselves in different parts of your operating system.So can some nasty MAL WARE !!!! A CLEAN INSTALL WILL STOP THEM ....PERIOD.

My P C is fast just like the day when I got it new PAR , is yours ?

All my files are stored on 2 x 300 gig external hard drives and C:/ ( 180 GIG ) drive is kept meticulously clean.

Intel Pentium 4 ............ it`s a 6 year old machine....1 crash ( power cut while using Adobe Illustrator ) and 1 lockup. That speaks for itself I think. NO other troubles whatsoever !

And guess what ? A Geek will tell you to save your data and clean install anyway.!!!!!

BTW...Geeks don`t call it a CLEAN install for nothing !!!

[masalai]

Dick Smith (an australian electronics shop owned by Woolworths) has WD (Western Digital brand "terrabyte' external hard disks for AU$149 and will plug in to your USB port that will store more than you will ever need externally then as <boat fan> says do a clean install of XP.... every so often move your personal files to the external drive (you can still read and print them from there) so you can do a clean install every so often when it slows down again because of viruses etc...

FUCK he has a laptop that is YEARS old - max ram ??? WTF??? - - Otherwise, buy a new one price is coming down but the gloss screens are ABSOLUTE SHIT unless you work in the dark depths of a cave as the reflection inhibits viewing the contents of the screen in brightly lit areas... (plug in an external screen with a flat/matt finish on the screen) most new notebooks will support dual screens...

[boat fan]

Dick Smith (an australian electronics shop owned by Woolworths) has WD (Western Digital brand "terrabyte' external hard disks for AU$149 and will plug in to your USB port that will store more than you will ever need externally then as <boat fan> says do a clean install of XP.... every so often move your personal files to the external drive (you can still read and print them from there) so you can do a clean install every so often when it slows down again because of viruses etc...

FUCK he has a laptop that is YEARS old - max ram ??? WTF??? - - Otherwise, buy a new one price is coming down but the gloss screens are ABSOLUTE SHIT unless you work in the dark depths of a cave as the reflection inhibits viewing the contents of the screen in brightly lit areas... (plug in an external screen with a flat/matt finish on the screen) most new notebooks will support dual screens...


I see that Mas knows how to keep his computer humming....;)


If you want to play hungry new generation games get a game consul like an x box or Nintendo. Kids here are selling them on E Bay for about $A 150.00 used.

P Cs were never actually meant to play games , unless its a purpose built Gaming computer, and believe me , a good Gaming Computer ain`t cheap ( try $A 3000.00 for a good one !!!!)

An old x box pictured below Frosty ( newer one on the right )

End of story .

[PAR]

Anyone that has to routinely wipe the OS off their machine just to fix it, clearly isn't the person that should be offering advice. This is the backyard hack way of doing things and generally doesn't give you anything. XP in it's out of the box condition sucks without being tweaked. If you don't know or can't preform these tweaks, then you should call someone who does.

It's like having you car's engine replaced, every time you need a tune up, get a grip folks, this isn't rocket science.

[Fanie]

Frosty, you cannot really 'upgrade' the PC except by replacing it with a better one.

If your PC has become somewhat slower than before then there are a few things you can do to 'restore' a little of the original oomph it had.

Fistly, uninstall old programs you don't use any more. The hard disk takes longer to work around the spaces in it. The less rubbish you have on it the faster it will be. You can add a USB external HD for the 'extra' stuff you have.

Once all the unused programs are gone, go through the subdirectories and see what you have there that isn't needed. Do this only if you are SURE you are not wiping another programs's information, if you do you will have to redo the PC ! If you are not absolutely sure then leave it there !

Secondly, if you sit on the net a lot then you may want to clear the gazillion cash files explorer save for you to 'quickly' reload the page when you visit it again. The problem is at some stage the list gets a bit long and the hard drive takes a loooong time to find (or not) what it is looking for. To clean this list in IE you go tools, internet options, delete temp files under general.

If you wipe it all you have to log on using your passwords again, but that's ok, once logged in again it will auto remember the passwords as cookies.

Lastly you can do a a disk defragment. In windows, start, all programs, accessories, system tools, defragment. This will sort all relevant information together so the drive finds relevant info in the same place instead of having to look all over the drive for snippets to piece together.

Do a proper virus check, if you have one hidden it could also slow the PC up.

If this doesn't solve your speed problem then get a new PC. Nothing will help it beyond this.

Any relation between the PC and those Yanmars ? Sounds to me they both have troubles getting going :D

[masalai]

Windows and Yamnar are they related companies?

[boat fan]

Anyone that has to routinely wipe the OS off their machine just to fix it, clearly isn't the person that should be offering advice. This is the backyard hack way of doing things and generally doesn't give you anything. XP in it's out of the box condition sucks without being tweaked. If you don't know or can't preform these tweaks, then you should call someone who does.

It's like having you car's engine replaced, every time you need a tune up, get a grip folks, this isn't rocket science.


Frosty, you cannot really 'upgrade' the PC except by replacing it with a better one.


Depends on what you have now Frosty. You can most likely double your ram for very little money , very easily.

Without knowing what you have , just saying " you cannot really upgrade " is not necessarily true , as it depends on how good your processor is. If its an average cpu and five or six years old , then Fani is right ,it may not be worth it.

Your original post clearly said that you don`t want to spend much money.

Save your files and programs, and clean install windows. That`s as cheap as you can do. And VERY effective. Like I said you only need to do this ONCE.

Any competent honest Computer Techie will tell you this. Don`t believe me ? Ask one and find out for yourself.


I clean install ONCE a year. Obviously you also need to clear your browser cache , defrag. etc . etc etc , that`s just normal computer house keeping.

Some people here are clearly intimidated by something as simple as a windows install. Purely because they either don`t know how , or they have no idea what an operating system does.
It is nothing at all like " changing the engine on you car "..it`s a really simple thing to do.

The reason most people don`t want to go there is because they don`t know what to do with their files. They usually only have one ( C:/ ) hard drive .That is a mistake.
My C:/ drive runs windows and shortcuts to my external drives for files and programs . Very little else. That`s why it runs so well . It runs Windows only .

Set up like this I could clean install windows EVERY DAY IF I WANTED TO without touching or moving any files , folder or programs.No problems.
Virus checks are very quick and keeping the registry clean is fast and easy because you are only dealing with your local internal C:/ drive , which should be clean of clutter anyway..

Like Mas said get an external hard drive ( cheap ) and transfer your files.

All it does is ensure that you have a totally clean non corrupted operating system. It`s just Software. Do it ONCE and forget it.

If it took 5 years for your machine to slow up then I would say your computer is just fine. Don`t waste your money buying another one just to get email and web browsing.

It will cost you an external hard drive ( $ 50:00 upward , depending how big ) Installing windows from your disc : FREE!!!!

An X Box will run a simulator just fine as is , without F****ing with it thank you.

get a grip folks, this isn't rocket science.

That`s quite funny coming from someone who thinks installing windows is a big deal:D

Talk to a professional PAR you don`t have a clue.

What are the specs on your machine Frosty ?

[PAR]

Actually I do have a clue and clean installing Windows is the easy way to get back to square one. If you had a clue, then you'd know that all versions of Windows run like dogs until certain tweaks are preformed and square one is the last place you want to be. In fact, the software Tweaked is the first package I used for this, years ago and of course the venerable MSConfig. But then again this assumes you do have a clue, which you clearly don't. In the days I started using machines, we had to do it the hard way with text editors like XTree, but now with everything in a shell, you use a packaged set of tools.

All my older systems have their original XP installs, never have they crashed, locked up or required a system wipe. They all run faster then the original "clean install" could have possibly hoped, but again you have to get a handle on what all the NT versions desire from your behavior and system understanding.

Running something like Glary Utilities (or similar) once a week will usual keep the average machine from needing any OS wipes, of course this assumes you haven't permitted your machine to be attacked or allowed it to degrade to the unrecoverable level that Frosty may be at.

Of course you back up, that's a given, but then again so are insuring your machine remains stable, is protected from attack, turning off bells and whistles you don't need, is purged of useless information, has it's files updated regularly, etc.

If you just turn it on, use it for years and don't do anything special, then sure, you'll end up with a paper weight, but then again.

Maybe Frosty needs to dump what he's got and start over, but this is the last resort, not the first and certainly shouldn't be considered easy, especially by someone who allowed this to occur in the first place. Loading hour after hour of software packages is insane, for someone who probably doesn't know where his XP Product Key is located.

[boat fan]

All my older systems have their original XP installs, never have they crashed, locked up or required a system wipe. They all run faster then the original "clean install" could have possibly hoped, but again you have to get a handle on what all the NT versions desire from your behavior and system understanding.

But then again this assumes you do have a clue, which you clearly don't.

You don`t have a single fact to back up that statement , furthermore , making them run faster is child`s play PAR .

BTW my " handle " on NT versions is just fine thank you !




For you to claim that five years of crud , viruses , Malware , trojans ,worms and who knows what can be easily removed is downright wrong and you know it. There is not a single Tech who would tackle that unless he wants to milk a hefty hourly rate , for mediocre results might I add .It would cost MORE than starting from scratch. I think if you showed Frosty ( or most people ) including a lot of techs ,a scan log of" Hijack This" scanning for Smitdfraud ,,( over 100 variants ) and Zlob Thats just ONE ! .He would have a few issues on which reg entries and keys and sub keys to delete , don`t you think? Sandbox anyone ?

Of course you back up, that's a given, but then again so are insuring your machine remains stable, is protected from attack, turning off bells and whistles you don't need, is purged of useless information, has it's files updated regularly, etc.


The crux of it all.Like I said before ...C:/ drive is clean of crap.

this assumes you haven't permitted your machine to be attacked or allowed it to degrade to the unrecoverable level that Frosty may be at.

If you just turn it on, use it for years and don't do anything special, then sure, you'll end up with a paper weight, but then again.


Then again nothing ....... you are assuming a little much here , don`t you think ? Unless you have divine psychic powers of course. Years of accumulated corrupt data and quite possibly ( in fact very likely) virus infection . How would Frosty distinguish Explorer .exe. ( the virus) from the genuine Explorer exe ? Don`t tell me Kaspersky or Norton`s or Nod 32 will....because they often cannot ) ..and .Avg does not quarantine it ...so how would you know? What about . Smitdfraud / smitfraud / smit fraude or any other of its versions ???Same story ..bottom line HOW DO YOU GUARANTEE A CLEAN REG PAR ?

Running something like Glary Utilities (or similar) once a week will usual keep the average machine from needing any OS wipes...

Sure ..IF your system is already clean.

That is exactly why Frosty needs to clean install PAR ...NO AMOUNT OF REG CLEANING AND /OR VIRUS OR MALWARE CHECKS WILL CLEAN FIVE YEARS OF CRUD out of your operating system. I don`t care what you say to the contrary.

He only needs ONE infected program or file not used for a while ...he opens it innocently ....and you know the rest...chances are he won`t even know where it came from.He could have downloaded it four years ago....or more ...or yesterday....Next time he boots up ....SH1T...WTF ....?

A five year old operating system is OVERDUE to be flushed .No "ifs" or "buts" about it.

Some " reg cleaners "can be so aggressive , they often do more harm than good.Who would bother wallowing around trying to find file fragments , corrupted binaries , blah...blah .... bloody blah.....

So once again ,What to do with a paper weight operating system ? Oh yes ...I forgot ...you scrub it !!!!! That wouldn`t be a clean install now would it PAR ?

You know that his machine will run like new again. If you don`t , you don`t know much.

If Frosty is not all that computer savy , not everyone is , and doesn``t need to be , ( nothing against you now Frosty I`m giving genuine good advice here ) then it`s unlikely he would " tweak" much anyway.
He gets email and browses the web .!!!!!!!!!!!!

For some customizing Win Doze and " tweaking " it , is a given , but only if you start with a CLEAN system to begin with. "Tweaking" a corrupted registry is stupid and , well , pointless.

If Frosty just browses the web and emails , what is there to "tweak" anyway ? Win Doze straight out of its basic box will do that just fine thank you .
FIVE YEARS OF CRUD NEEDS A CLEAN INSTALL PERIOD.

What do you think Frosty would get with a new computer ...? Yep you guessed it ...a clean install !!! Most likely windows vista or windows 7 , but a clean install none the less.
None of which would include your legendary " tweaks " either.And NONE of which he would need .

And Frosty please use Firefox .....if you are not already...:D :D :D

[Manie B]

Eh scuuuze me Frosty , what's up doc, i is confudled now

is disn't unnerstoood fis

In gonna laugh my cock off.

cock off - water in boat - boat sinks - computer wet - froww away - baaaai nuuu

to the rest off you thanks for the info :D

[masalai]

Or else, load Linux Mint - - it will install in about 20 minutes and ask about half a dozen questions, Just plug everything in and have it "online" when you install... (printers are sometimes a problem as getting drivers is a bit of "trial and error" :D:D:D;D NO de-fragmenting issues, no "registry" issues, no viruses and "Firefox" web browser and "Thunderbird" email thingie are available as well as lots of other stuff FOR FREE... and a filesystem that is robust and secure.... But the geeks of this world wrote and maintain it so there may also be a bit of a challenge and steep learning curve....

[boat fan]

Or else, load Linux Mint - - it will install in about 20 minutes and ask about half a dozen questions, Just plug everything in and have it "online" when you install... (printers are sometimes a problem as getting drivers is a bit of "trial and error" :D:D:D;D NO de-fragmenting issues, no "registry" issues, no viruses and "Firefox" web browser and "Thunderbird" email thingie are available as well as lots of other stuff FOR FREE... and a filesystem that is robust and secure.... But the geeks of this world wrote and maintain it so there may also be a bit of a challenge and steep learning curve....

No arguments there Mas EXCEPT .........:D:D:D

I can`t run some of my fav. software including Corel Painter x ....which unfortunately does not fare well in emulator. Have tried ....I should have run it on a mac ...much better. It would mean dual operating system for me ....otherwise I would in a heartbeat.NEED A POWERMAC G6 really......

I have a complete suite of ubuntu here ....pity :(:(:(

Frosty would benefit though...on a CLEAN hard drive.

[boat fan]

Eh scuuuze me Frosty , what's up doc, i is confudled now

is disn't unnerstoood fis



cock off - water in boat - boat sinks - computer wet - froww away - baaaai nuuu

to the rest off you thanks for the info :D


ISSS YUUUU HAVNNN SMMMM TRUBBBLE WIF YUUU HARD DRIVR MANIE ?

:D:D:D:D:D:D

BOAT SINKS !!!!!!! F***K the COMPUTER MANIE .......THE BOAT................... WHAT ABOUT THE BOAT ??????:D :D :D :D....SAVE THE BOAT !!!!!

[Frosty]

Aha i understood that bit,--yea I have firefox, and I down loaded it myself.

I dont know any geeks at home in Pattaya but gioing back to the boat and Yanmars next week ,--plenty of geeks round marinas.

[boat fan]

Aha i understood that bit,--yea I have firefox, and I down loaded it myself.

I dont know any geeks at home in Pattaya but gioing back to the boat and Yanmars next week ,--plenty of geeks round marinas.



Sounds like a plan...:D

[masalai]

Frosty, - - - "geeks" not Greeks:D:D:D:D