gozzo

[peter radclyffe]

i am building a gozzo http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img121.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img115.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img169.jpg

[ILikeRust]

Looking good!

I'm interested in that bandsaw - what is it? Don't recognize it and can't read the name on it.

Thanks!

- Bill T.

[peter radclyffe]

its a primultini

[mark775]

I love the bandsaw!

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/SternView.jpg

[gwboats]

Peter,

Nice picture!

Graham Westbrook
Naval Architect
www.westbrookmarine.co.uk

[peter radclyffe]

I wasnt sure about the commercial aspect Graham, however
Graham Westbrook very kindly produced this picture & a lines plan for my design, thank you again Graham

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/SDC11736.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/th_SDC11736.jpg (http://s791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/?action=view&current=SDC11736.jpg)

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/th_SDC11668.jpg (http://s791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/?action=view&current=SDC11668.jpg)

[apex1]

Well done Peter!

[peter radclyffe]

thanks Richard, the bulk of the work is done, but theres a way to go yet

[daiquiri]

Very nice boat and well-done job, Peter!
I like to see some exposed frames below the sheer of traditional boats, too bad you have covered them. But that's a matter of personal preferences - it nevertheless remains a very good-looking boat. :)

[peter radclyffe]

well thanks Daiquiri, i would have left them open but this is a gozzo, trying to compete with the others,
the hull can be also a fishing boat with fwd cabin, or a vela latina, for which reason in particular it has an out board rudder, as well as you know , for ease of construction,
the hull will also work at 9 or 12 meters upwards, on account of its high freeboard

[apex1]

Well,

we could corrupt that down to be everybodies darling, I am sure.

But than it would be nobodies darling anymore.

Leave it as it is, a Gozzo. Not a Benet.Bavar.Jeanne. blend bastard.

Glad to see your stubborn way of swimming upstream, keep it! In less than a decade, they will hunt you down for exactly that reason, and pay you what you ask for, or twice that...

Regards
Richard

[peter radclyffe]

yeah, i should be in a museum, i think most everything i do is pre-war:) :) :)

[daiquiri]

Nah, you are not for the museum. :)
Your experience and craftsmanship is becoming a rare and valuable thing today, imho.

As about exposed frames, I didn't mean to say "open".
I meant something like this:

http://www.cantierenavaletopazio.com/Gozzo_2.jpg http://www.capriboatservice.com/immagini/noleggio/gozzo.epocagrande.jpg

See there, under the sheer rail? :)

[peter radclyffe]

yes thanks, i understood

[dskira]

Very nice boat and well-done job, Peter!
I like to see some exposed frames below the sheer of traditional boats, too bad you have covered them. But that's a matter of personal preferences - it nevertheless remains a very good-looking boat. :)

Well you like the bulwark supported with stanchions and rail on top.
You are a real sailor, it is the most beautiful detail on a boat.
And I am sure our friend Peter knows better than any body else how to built it properly. He comes from the country which elevate the bulwark to an art.
Peter I love your boat, and the way you built it.
In Spain I was building the Gozzo equivalent, the Llaud, vela latina, oars or interior shutgun diesel, very cambered deck, small opening on the middle, cover with hatches, high bulwark fisherman fashion without rail. From 4m to 15m.
Yes nice bandsaw. I am quite jalous. But I will get over!
I will not be bother about the commercial aspect, a boat built by a talented shipbuilder always find buyer.
Daniel

[dskira]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img169.jpg

I like this picture. I see a hint of return garboard on the third plank. Must be quite bitchy to put it. The twisting can be realy tough as you go down.
Do you saw the bevel or saw square and then take care of the bevels?
Daniel

[hoytedow]

It is a fine example of master craftsmanship.

[apex1]

I like this picture. I see a hint of return garboard on the third plank. Must be quite bitchy to put it. The twisting can be realy tough as you go down.
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Do you think it is already fixed? To me it seems just applied "loose". Just one dowel on the second frame, no obvious dowel on the next...

If not, that IS a bitch to apply.

But, hey, what do we bother, this one knows his bloody job.

Richard

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/img169.jpg

I like this picture. I see a hint of return garboard on the third plank. Must be quite bitchy to put it. The twisting can be realy tough as you go down.
Do you saw the bevel or saw square and then take care of the bevels?
Daniel
thanks Daniel , for bigger hulls i would saw the bevel on the bench, but these are sawn once the frame is up, its the first time i've used a lot of pino marittima, as you know it bends so well, without steam , in england i'd use larch or iroko which i'd have to steam, as a boatbuilder, when i design, i pay a lot of attention to the run of the planks for the first 20-40 centimeters off the stems, as i know when steaming these are the hardest to hold & fasten without breaking, this does not concern some designers, as they have not planked a boat

[apex1]

So it is fixed?

[peter radclyffe]

yes, every other green plank is fastened to dry out before the others are fastened, this makes the seams tighter

[daiquiri]

Hi Peter, just one question - do you know the actual weight of your boat, at this point of construction?

[dskira]

Hi Peter, just one question - do you know the actual weight of your boat, at this point of construction?

I am not Peter, and I just put my two cents, sorry about that.

In classic construction I use for the weight estimate, the density number for each wood at 12% dry, then for all the wood structure but not the deck and the accompaning structures, I add 15% of the weight for soaking. After a period of two to five years, it was found resonable. Some gain more quikly than other.
Then when I built, I verify randomly by weighting some pieces and comparing with my estimate. That for the wood of course.

Again I apologize for barging in.
Daniel

[daiquiri]

No need to apologize, Daniel. I am in learning mode here, and you surely have many things to teach. ;)

Do you add something for fasteners, resin, varnish etc. or is it included in the 15% margin?

[dskira]

No need to apologize, Daniel. I am in learning mode here, and you surely have many things to teach. ;)

Do you add something for fasteners, resin, varnish etc. or is it included in the 15% margin?

For fastening I made a total estimation and put the weight to the allready found main center of gravity.
For the paint I use the total square area to know the gallons needed, then put this weight in the same manner as the feastening.
I use paint which dry by oxydation, so the weight remain the same when dry (-5%)
The 15% soaking weight is put at the center of gravity of the planking and keel.
In case I use several gallons of coal tar under the waterline, I made a separate weight for that and put it on the center of gravity of the lower planking.
Daniel

[peter radclyffe]

thank you Daniel, its good to know how you work these out,
no Daiquiri, i dont know exactly

[dskira]

Peter, don't leave us in the dark.
When you can we would like more pictures and your work story.
If you don't mind of course.
Daniel

[peter radclyffe]

thank you Daniel i must post some info

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/SDC11716.jpg

[peter radclyffe]

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy195/helpME7/SDC11668.jpg

[dskira]

That my friend its what I call fast and well built.
Beautiful. From framing to finish, I am impress.
Congratulation Peter, you are the best

Daniel

[Boston]

that was pretty dam impressive Peter

my hats off to you ship mate

[peter radclyffe]

thanks guys, but its only about 3/4 finished, the beds are in, but the engine is not in, probably a volvo,

[Boston]

thus proving the points system is seriously flawed