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ygthaydut
03-17-2009, 07:34 PM
Which one is the easiest and newest method for boat building? and whicp plan supplier provide like that plan?
alan white
03-17-2009, 07:41 PM
The newest proven method over a long history of boatbuilding would probably be stitch and glue frameless (or mostly frameless) construction, using plywood and epoxy and fiberglass cloth. There are certain to be some newer methods but you need not concern yourself with those if you are looking at starting a first-time project.
KnottyBuoyz
03-17-2009, 07:45 PM
stitch & glue glass over plywood construction

www.bateau.com

There's been a few of their TW28 designs built in Turkey in the last couple of years. Check out this thread....

http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?t=9494

and this one....

http://forums.bateau2.com/viewtopic.php?t=16562&highlight=yavuz
ygthaydut
03-17-2009, 08:15 PM
okey my friend I know bateau I know all boats of them is there different companies?
apex1
03-17-2009, 08:25 PM
What are you going to build, sail,motor, and on which scale? Homebuild? Boatshop?
Are you in Istanbul / Tuzla ?
ygthaydut
03-17-2009, 08:35 PM
no I am from İzmir. for homebuild, I have a website which is about boat building materials. I looking for everything about boat building.
apex1
03-17-2009, 08:44 PM
I understand, but no, for homebuilders I do´nt know any new methods.
ygthaydut
03-17-2009, 08:46 PM
thank you my friend . I am looking for new methods. easiest ones maybe I can find in this time:D:D
KnottyBuoyz
03-17-2009, 08:51 PM
okey my friend I know bateau I know all boats of them is there different companies?
http://www.glen-l.com/
PAR
03-17-2009, 11:06 PM
Designers and engineers are always coming up with subtle changes to current methods and applications. I don't personally believe that taped seam (stitch and glue) is the easiest method for the novice or beginner. This of course is a well debated opinion, but after years of designing boats for home builders, the biggest issues I've found are "goo factor" related among the first time builders. The goo factor (my term for lots of messy adhesive and sheathing effort) is quite high on these methods, which isn't user friendly for a person with little experience.

I think glue and screw is much more user friendly for the novice builder and usually far cheaper too. These methods are a cross between taped seam and traditional plywood over frame construction. Generally the seams aren't taped, but screwed to battens with a bed of adhesive or sealant. There's typically more framing involved, but these wood working skills are more commonly found in the novice builder.

Can you list your web site address?
alan white
03-17-2009, 11:22 PM
I agree with PAR. While stitch and glue is newer as a construction technique, older methoods such as plywood on frame (chine logs, etc.), or even solid wood (as in typical traditional skiff design) are much better suited to the novice.
There are enough miracle adhesives out there to assist in sealing seams and joints that it's not hard to get a really water-tight hull nowadays.
You can progress towards epoxy joints later. Meanwhile, there are many uses for limited experience with epoxy and additives in even traditional construction.
Luckily, there are thousands of wooden boat designs with plans that don't require huge amounts of epoxy--- some can be taped with fiberglass just at the seams (tack and tape), and those do not depend on epoxy for strength, just for waterproofing.
ygthaydut
03-18-2009, 08:51 AM
Here is my adress : www.kenditekneniyap.com
ygthaydut
03-18-2009, 10:19 AM
What did you expect I dont know but first you have look very careful. Plans under affillate program. bateau company and joel knows this. I am waiting for your apologize.
PAR
03-18-2009, 10:49 AM
Joel is a friend of mine, I'll call him this afternoon and find out the real story.
ygthaydut
03-18-2009, 12:37 PM
you can call where do you want to call. Just look for satın al link from my site it is going to bateau's page. I think you dont understand.
ancient kayaker
03-18-2009, 01:46 PM
A word on stitch and glue: for the first time builder it is best to buy a kit. It's more expensive than buying the materials but less risky.

If you make a stitch and glue boat from plans the planks must be marked and cut accurately. The resulting hull shape is determined almost entirely by the plank shapes. Most kits are for stitch and glue and go together reasonably well as they are generally machine cut.

If you are working from a plan however, the battens that Par wrote about help to define the shape of the hull and ensure that is looks good.

When you buy a plan the designer will specify the construction method and often supply detailed instructions. It is wisest to follow these. I admit that I don't, but I enjoy the mental battle fo solving the problems that often result from meddling with the designer's intent.

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PAR
03-19-2009, 05:00 PM
I apologize to Ygthaydut. It appears his site is in good standing with the folks over at Bateau2..
apex1
03-19-2009, 05:05 PM
you can call where do you want to call. Just look for satın al link from my site it is going to bateau's page.

He did!
With the result that I have to
apologize

I have deleted the post with my statement, not to discredit your business.

Regards
Richard
ygthaydut
03-19-2009, 05:15 PM
Okey then no problem . I am sorry too.

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