Revision of Commercial Vessel Standards in Australia

[mflapan]

Dear all

I have previously posted information about work done on a new stability standard under the Stability Forum. However, this post pertains to documents for public comments pertaining to standards other than stability. Hence I have created this new thread. The information is as shown below:

Issues papers now out for public comment – have your say
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NSCV Part C Construction and Design, Subsection 2 – Watertight and Weathertight Integrity.

This Issues Paper:

• questions the requirement for all vessels to adhere to the International Load Lines Convention's ways of protecting boats from heavy weather.

• explores options for protecting vessels from the ingress of water in heavy weather by their watertight arrangements.

• considers whether the International High Speed Craft Code should be used as a basis for the new standard, whether classification society rules might be used or if the standard should start anew.

Comments close 15 September 2008

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NSCV Part F Special Vessels, Subsection 2 – Revision of USL Code Part 18 ‘Hire and Drive Vessels’.

This Issues Paper:

• acknowledges the need to take account of the range of hire boating activities currently on the market (eg, houseboats, day-outing power boats) and emerging around Australia – these newer activities include off-shore bareboat chartering, hiring a boat on a trailer and jet ski hire.

• considers the many existing standards for the design and construction of boats used in this sector – such as those applied in North America and Europe – which might be referenced rather than creating a uniquely Australian set of requirements.

• invites comment on the title of the new standard – i.e., ‘hire and drive’ is not fixed and the Issues Paper is open to suggestions on a better way to describe it.

Comments close 22 September 2008.

Download the following documents from www.nmsc.gov.au – or phone (02) 9247 2124

[lazeyjack]

one would think, as far as hire and smaller craft that the EU CE recreational standards could be adopted, without fuss
But given that rule making is an art form, an industry that keeps many in unecessary uproductive work, I'll bet you London to a brick they ignore the easy cheaper way

[mflapan]

one would think, as far as hire and smaller craft that the EU CE recreational standards could be adopted, without fuss
But given that rule making is an art form, an industry that keeps many in unecessary uproductive work, I'll bet you London to a brick they ignore the easy cheaper way

Dear Lazeyjack

You might find it advantageous to read the issues paper first to understand what is being proposed!

One of the options raised is indeed to adopt a similar approach to the EU CE recreational standards. The idea of the issues paper is to try and identify issues such as yours as a first step to achieving concensus between people with widely varying views. Some see hire and drive as purely commercial vessels, some see them as just like other types of recreational vessels. The reality is likely to be somewhere in between.

Please note that this standard not only applies to the vessels themselves, but also the operators. You will find that in the EU the requirements for operators of hire and drive vessels are not covered by the EU Directive, but by national legislation.

We certainly would welcome your considered input into the process. That is why the thread was created. Please provide any comments you have via the Feedback Forms provided on the Have Your Say web page at:

http://www.nmsc.gov.au/yoursay_2.html

I look forward to receiving your thoughts.

Regards
Mori

Regards
Mori

[lazeyjack]

point taken I did read some of it Mori
I should not be a lazy apathetic creature, I will make the effort
And thank you for taking the time
I guess I am rather a sceptic, after sailing the world and building for over 30 years and then being TOLD I must take a drivers test to sail my yacht, and that I must take this test in the 12 foot tin boat provided by the examiner!
NZ people are not so apathetic, the industry per capita is larger and the people said NO, to registration of boats (private) and licencing of skippers However I suppose I support the building of better boats
I do not however ,support the bringing in of compulsary insurance for vessels over 15m
best rgds
Stu