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Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 12:20 PM
I posted a number of On... in the WB Forums.
They were meant to stimulate discussion on and only for the subject mentioned. Usually it worked out OK but sometimes as chatter in a saloon will, the thrust drifted off target.
I would be willing to post a few in the appropriate Forums here if it would be of help and IF they stay on subject.
Being the crusty old faht that I am let me say bluntly.
***If ya gonna go off topic then go start your own damn thread, folla?***
Any opinions either on the idea or my attitude are welcome.
;)
Bring 'em on... I'll stick to the subject (mostly).
duluthboats
10-30-2003, 12:37 PM
:cool:
Oyster
10-30-2003, 02:21 PM
Hey Dave, question for you, here. Are you working on anything to date, or have anything that gets you out on the water? Honest question, since I don't recall ever hearing you discuss this. Just a curious question. Tell us about your boat, please, pertty pleasssses. Spoken with a smile and awaiting with great expectations.
I must tell you, I SINNED big time. I flamed today. It felt good, though. My knee was hurting. Please forgive me. Opps, off topic.
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 02:30 PM
"Are you working on anything to date, or have anything that gets you out on the water? "
Nah, building a bookcase shelving system for this tenament I live in and spending time with a shipwright friend down at the San Diego Maritime Museum. Sailing waters are not great down here and I am not a big fan of putt-putts.
I hope to get out on Bergman's Royaliste come Thanksgiving Week when we trek up to the San Francisco Bay Area.
gonzo
10-30-2003, 04:43 PM
Looks like this thread is already off subject. Also, this is a marine forum. Some chit chat is OK, but you guys sound like a Yahoo chat room for singles. What is the subject of your exchanges anyway?
Oyster
10-30-2003, 05:54 PM
Catagory:Open Discussion
Topic: Question:
"They were meant to stimulate discussion on and only for the subject mentioned. Usually it worked out OK but sometimes as chatter in a saloon will, the thrust drifted off target.
I would be willing to post a few in the appropriate Forums here if it would be of help and IF they stay on subject."
Sounds like he is asking for suggestions.
REPLY WITH A SUBJECT:
Tell us about your boat, please, pertty pleasssses. Spoken with a smile and awaiting with great expectations.
Are we restricted to one liners, here? GEEWIZZ, Many times topics will have some legs, that evolved from topics, associated with the actual topics. Have a nice day.
Didn't mean to offend, Gonzo. Just a few grizzled ol' vets of the boatbuilding wars havin' a jawin' session. Sorta thought that's what an "Open Forum" was for - bein' friendly and socializin'. Informal and friendly-like, no sex, politics, or religion. Important stuff on topic up above, friendly social chat over here in the quiet corner of the boat shop by the stove and moanin' chair.
Are we to assume that you don't want us experienced old fellers hangin' about in your shop? We're a friendly bunch 'n' would welcome your company too, but if'n ya think that we might disturb the important work goin' on 'round here we can mosey along. After all you wuz here first an' we don't want to get ya all riled up over nuthin'.
What do you say? Is it shut up and move along, or do ya wanna sit down and tell us a bit about yourself so's we can become better friends? I see that you do a bit of both design and construction - what style of boats and what materials do you work in?
Oops - off topic again, ain't I?
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 07:12 PM
Ayup Gonzo, we'us have left one Forum and I reckon we can leave this one to if'n ya think we'uns is intruding on your balliwick.
Last thing on my mind is to be part of another conflict.
But is does say OPEN, no?
:confused:
Bob Smalser
10-30-2003, 07:59 PM
Heck...I'm happy to have any discussion of any kind on this quiet site....as long as it's from boatbuilders.
Willallison
10-30-2003, 08:02 PM
You'll have to excuse Gonzo for his (apparent) hard line - those of us who have been around this forum for a while are feeling a little touchy at the moment. Following the "Apache" and "More of us soon" threads, I think you guys'll be the 1st to agree that for a while things looked like changing very much for the worse around here.
For my part at least, I think it's terrific that a few more knowledgeable people are prepared to share their thoughts on all things boaty and I hope you'll stick around.... just help us get rid of some of those that followed....
Now, back to the topic;) .... Dave, call me stupid, but what did you mean by...
I posted a number of On... in the WB Forums
What's On... ?
He means for example: On Battens (http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2376) or On Mentors & Mentoring (http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2370)
And I agree 100% with Will - I'm very happy to see some new people, especially those with so much experience to share. I've read all your posts so far with great interest and I appreciate you joining our forums.
And I'll try to do a better job moderating to keep the way-off-topic threads from getting out of control in the future.
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 08:32 PM
Willxxxx, On is how I began a number of posts to WB Forums.
See the one I posted today in Woodenboat......
ie: On Battens-On Deep Hole Drilling-On Sharpening that sorta stuff.
And not to worry Gonzo I will keep them in the appropriate Forum.
;)
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 08:33 PM
Whups, I was beaten by Jeff in reply.
Thankee Kind Sir.:D
Since I'm here, Dave, I'll be so bold as to speak for you...
What Dave is referring to is a series of fine postings on various topics he did in another place, all with the common theme of "On <topic>", such as his recent addition to the BoatDesign/Wooden Boat Restoration thread entitled, "On Battens".
Dave's got good stuff to say - one o' them "been there..." types.
Re: the mud we tracked in from another place; sorry. We're trying to clean up after ourselves and are willing to help with the chores.
<edit> - Wow, youse guys are fast!
Willallison
10-30-2003, 08:40 PM
Derr! You'd think that the penny would have dropped, given that I'd just finished glancing through your battens post!:D
Stick with it I say!:p
On a sadder note, I have to say that reading through I was reminded of the posts that Mike D used to post......
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 09:07 PM
People please excuse our dear and well liked compatriot 'EYRSTER".
We have just come off a very rough time over at the ***other***place and are a bit touchy.
We mean well, have NO AXES to grind, are or at least I am a nice gentle type of fellow.
Not 'into' pissing matches, oneupmanship, snide quips or rude jokes. I like boats even ones out of that other stuff.:D
I am a retired wooden shipwright, boatbuilder, loftsman having spent over 30+ years in the 'Avocation' of my choice.
Your patience and tolerance of us is appreciated.
PAX
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 09:09 PM
Willxxx, with respect who is Mike D.?
Willallison
10-30-2003, 09:56 PM
Mike D was a highly regarded member of the forum. He regularly used to post informative messages - more about design than construction (like this one.. http://boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1220 )
Unfortunately he passed away a little while back. It's nice to have people about who are happy to pass on the knowledge that can only be accumulated with experience....
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 10:03 PM
Gulp...
A fine explanation to be sure and a person to be missed.
SailDesign
10-30-2003, 11:18 PM
Willallison says:
"I think it's terrific that a few more knowledgeable people are prepared to share their thoughts "
Will, don't you go callin' them knowledgable till we seen how they stack up - they may all be dumb hicks like us..... ;-)
duluthboats
10-30-2003, 11:21 PM
:eek: :D
Dave Fleming
10-30-2003, 11:34 PM
"dumb hicks like us..... ;-)"
Yeah some hick to design those two ***sweet***launches.
Saved 'em both to my Boats folder, jes' terrible stuff.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
SailDesign
10-31-2003, 05:32 PM
Dave Flaming says: "Yeah some hick to design those two ***sweet***launches."
<blush> ;-)
Dave Fleming
10-31-2003, 05:50 PM
Sailxxxx, its FLEMING and I wasn't FLAMING.
:D :D :D :p
SailDesign
10-31-2003, 07:05 PM
Dave, sorry.
Of course, you'll never know which kind of "flaming" I thought you might be ;-P
My fingers tend to run away with themselves on the keyboard, resulting in the occasional booboo.
STeve
Hey, fellers! This topic (wood as a viable modern boatbuilding material) has been going on for two full days and about 30 consecutive posts, and mostly the posters have been fellows with a professional stake in the game, so how 'bout we "take it outside" and leave the comfy moanin' chairs for folks who'd like to engage in idle chatter. What are your thoughts on asking Admin to cut all the posts since Gonzo's 10/30/2003 11:06 PM post, "I build in..." out of this thread and re-post 'em in Materials under the title of, say, Wood as a Boatbuilding Material (http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2393), maybe with a little pre-amble by Admin as to how this new thread began ("We moved these posts from another thread because...").
Gonzo? Oyster? Bob? What say ye?
trouty
11-02-2003, 05:25 AM
Whatever, I'm easey.
Hey maybe the way to solve the loss of skills and knowlege in wooden boatbuilding is for a book to be written..
"The lost wooden boat building skills of the 19th century" by trouty et al....an esoteric ramble thru the tangled shrubbery of many wooden boatbuilding mens' sawdust and termite ridden muddled minds! :D :p
But - who'd buy it? :rolleyes:
Thats why the skills are lost!
Course it COULD be done collaboratively with contributions on different topics by different authors and sold in CD form over the ineternet! ;)
Cheers!
I think your idea is a good one - the Wood as a Boatbuilding Material (http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2393) posts have now been split into their own thread... http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2393
Dutch Rub
11-02-2003, 09:12 PM
..... excuse me kind sirs...... it appears that the head is plugged up again and about to run over.......
SailDesign
11-02-2003, 10:34 PM
Well, it's probably your turn to clean it up, Dutch ;-)
Willallison
11-03-2003, 05:43 PM
This being a rather open discussion......;) and yours being the last post SailDesign, I've been wondering about the little set of punctuation marks that always complete your posts.... :-)
At 1st I thought you weren't attaching your 'smilies' properly, but am I correct in thinking that it's a smiling face on its side?
SailDesign
11-03-2003, 08:56 PM
Will - Bingo!
It's properly called an "emoticon" or some such BS, and basically follows the route of:
:-) Smiley
;-) "Smiley with a wink"
;-P Sticking tongue out.
You get the picture. It's really because I'm too lazy with a dialup to wait for the full reply screen to load up, so I go with the text-only version.
Steve
Dave Fleming
11-04-2003, 07:30 PM
Jes' got back online this AM, the California fires don'cha know.
I too agree that the pertinent comments be moved to the appropriate Forum.
PS: the fires did not threaten us but apparently they knocked out some DSL doo-hickies in the hinterlands.
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