Ubuntu and other sacrifices to the god Linux

[Meanz Beanz]

Just a new thread to extract all the geek talk from the other threads.

OK M, what firewall and antivirus are we using or do we recomend?

Thanks in advance

Beanz

[the1much]

like we even look at new threads,,hehe ;)
well i reccomend eset nod32 3.0.642.0 antivirus,,,and avg pro anti,,,,,and zone alarm pro,,and sygate pro for firewalls,,,,ooo,, i found disconnectiong from the internet helps out too,,,hehe ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

I'm assuming that most flavours of firewall and av that I know are not available on Linux.... better check that eh?

[the1much]

oooo,,,ya,,,,the previouse post was fer windows,,hehe,,,guess i missed the "linux" part of the thread,,,hehe magine dat ha ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

Yup... hmmmm I am in wireless hell at the moment. Flaky crap going off left and right, not good for business!

[masalai]

Sorry Heinz, busy playing monopoly with the bank....

I just load "synaptic Package Manager" and installed "clamav" and leave it do its thing as any lazy bastard would - mainly for outgoing stuff - to please the windows users?

Synaptic has a search engine, just type in "firewall" and make your pick

Fcuk are you doing this on your business machine - very courageous my politician Sir... Need time to learn and tweak to your style of doing things...

most executables will only execute on user instructions - and windows files will only execute via wine - I gave the command before on this net and have forgotten it/lost track so if you find that command line let me know... wine is also available to download... nearly all files starting with "k" in the package name are for the KDE environment - the club users prefer KDE over Gnome as a gui environment as it comes with "better tools" especially for "command line freaks" and programmers - look again in synaptic but using the button at bottom left <sections>....

[masalai]

Another resource may be Tim B and Terry King, on this net http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=202908#post202908

[Meanz Beanz]

Its a backup machine M, the wireless issues are separate and about god proving he has a sense of humour... busy preparing lamb as sacrifice to Linux gods at the moment.... some of this chit is pretty arcane! Network manager don't like my wireless card, its flaky.... worked yesterday but ?! #%^%&*^$$#$!!!!! today :D

[tinhorn]

Over the last three years I've bought, installed, and networked over a dozen computers. All ran XP (when I bought a Vista machine, I paid a guy to remove it and install XP), all run AVG (viruses), AdAware (spyware), and use the standard Windows XP firewall. Despite downloading thousands of customer files from all over the world (I'd guess 15-20,000 files), and having half the computers constantly online, we've had one instance of a virus sneaking in. (When XP was taken off the market, I started stockpiling computers running XP Pro from eBay and uBid.)

I'm just offering this perspective in case you're unduly concerned about the Windows platform. I realize that some guys just like the challenge of Linux. The only other guy I know who used Linux was also someone I admire, a very intelligent guy, and often going nuts trying to make it work.

Ok, now I'm gonna go see if anyone posted new pics to the pics thread.

[masalai]

Good onya tinhorn, may bill G remember your faithfulness in his will?

Heinz, just play around - doing mindless changes - it will either decide to work, or totally fcuk up, at which point install another distro - try linux mint this time - sometimes it just requires a different geek approach to the installation process - I think cpu's have taste and may prefer the different flavour........ Suse is another, and Fedora - these both use rpm's as packaging systems, suse may come with all the codecs & plugins - not sure... Last time I used Fedora (free version of the business "RedHat" version as used by many ISP's) it maintained a policy totally against "non open source" stuff...

[Meanz Beanz]

M... I delved into its brain and manually altered it... WPA encryption upset it for some reason.

Tinhorn... I have worked with Windows since V2.0, ugly blue thing... MSCP, MSCE + Internet etc etc qualified to the wazoo on MS stuff (well a little outta date now :D). I can make Windows bomb proof and yes I also have never had a drama, anyway.... I swear the shove time bomb "slow down" code in their updates to drive new machine/OS sales... Sick of tweaking, rebuilding etc etc Its way to resource hungry... that's just an MS mindset, they don't give a crap about elegant code with a small foot prints they just put on weight and features mindlessly. So I gunna play with Linux for a while and see what she does... self induced pain ATM but we will see how it all comes out in the end :D

[masalai]

Just for your entertainment as a reward for your perseverance:::::

Grandma in Traffic

Dear grandchild,
The other day I had purchased a bumper sticker that read “Honk if you love Jesus” and I was merrily tootling along enjoying the trip home after the nice man stuck the sticker on my bumper...

I was sitting in the front row, waiting for the lights to change and thinking of how nice people can be and how much I loved Jesus. All of a sudden I was startled by honking, and bless me I was feeling so happy with all the people expressing how much they loved Jesus too – must have good eyes to read my bumper sticker. How marvellous....

Then people started wishing me “Joyous times on sunny beaches” I think – it was a little difficult to understand with all the honking... and you know, that, “Hawaiian greeting of happiness”, sign you make with the second finger extended and all the others curled over, well, that was when I figured that I was really being wished a joyous time at the beach – bless their loving hearts....

Just then I suddenly realised that the traffic lights were green and I was the only one who made it through the intersection, so I could not depart without showing these loving people of my appreciation at their "beach side" wishes and honking their love of Jesus, that I stopped, and got out, and because I was a little distant, stood up and extended both arms in the “Hawaian greeting of happiness” to all, and the expressions of their love of Jesus was almost overwhelming, so I got back in to my car and sped home to tell you of my wonderful experience, and that you should by going to church and praying to Jesus more often...

God Bless You Grandchild
Grandma...


So when you get held up by a stream of traffic that is not moving, think of Grandma, She may be up front, praising the Lord again...

[the1much]

im always called a "son-of-a-beach,,,hehe ;)

[tinhorn]

Good onya tinhorn, may bill G remember your faithfulness in his will?

Not likely - I've cursed him too many times.

self induced pain ATM but we will see how it all comes out in the end

Hmmm, exactly why I'm here learning about boat design. Ok, I'll hush now.

[Wynand N]

what firewall and antivirus are we using or do we recomend?

Beanz

Firewall = Sygate5.5 and Antivirus = Avast V4.8. Works like a charm for me:cool:

[the1much]

thats funny,,,just as i opened this thread,,,,i get pinged,,haha,,was some rice burner doing a port scan ta see if i was running any telnet crap,,,hehe ;)
talk ironic hehe ;),,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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[safewalrus]

On - off switch works for me! turn it on I get ****, turn it off nobody bothers me!!

[masalai]

So, Heinz, How is your pseudo African experience. - - Ubuntu working OK?

[Meanz Beanz]

Firewall = Sygate5.5 and Antivirus = Avast V4.8. Works like a charm for me:cool:

On Linux?

[Meanz Beanz]

So, Heinz, How is your pseudo African experience. - - Ubuntu working OK?

Wireless is an issue, very unstable... thats pulled me up for the moment.

[masalai]

Have you checked whether the drivers support your wireless card?/chips...

[Meanz Beanz]

Its a Windows Driver that Linux wraps... reports that it works are around but WPA seems to be an issue. I have had it going but its way to touchy and when it flakes out it takes a lot to get it back.

[masalai]

buggy driver or wrapper having difficulties? - me dumarse in this area too.....

[the1much]

ehhe,,,,well my china dude tried another 32 times,,,,,so my friend came over,,networked to his puter through mine,,,,and messed with the dude so bad,,,that now they little guy is trying to hide his ip from me,,hehe ;)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
72.32.196.12 is a reserved address




The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved this address for its own use. Unless you are on a network that is actively involved in the development of the system for assigning IP addresses, this address was probably forged in order to hide the identity of the sender.

another b@ll-less hehe ;)

[masalai]

Awwww the1, mess with the little bloke good surely the fbi can find the little creep, in the interests of American National security?

[the1much]

nope,,,,my friend the Freakin Big Indian,,"FBI" i think would just laugh at me
hehe ;)

[safewalrus]

Then go nuke the barsteward as a matter of course -unless of course he actually works for them! Now that wouldn't surprise me!

[masalai]

Hello Heinz, Hello Ralph, Hello Jim.....

[the1much]

mornin Mas.i feel as old as you look today,,,,man 102F felt awful hot to me today,,hehe ;)

[masalai]

At the moment it is 21 deg C, cool clear sunny day a gentle WSW at 7 Km/H and 17 deg at the local Maroochydore airport and I am now 63 - today....

[tinhorn]

Happy Birthday, man!

[masalai]

Thanks, I have given too recently to give more, Thanks....

[the1much]

Happy Birthday Old Dude,,,, ;) :d:d:d:d:d:d:d:p

[masalai]

Thanks the1 - what is the lower case :d ? forget to hold the button for :P:P or :D:D?

[masalai]

Heinz, I couldn't think where to put this so you may be blessed for hosting "from the children"
KIDS IN CHURCH
3-year-old Reese :
'Our Father, Who does art in heaven,
Harold is His name.
Amen.'

A little boy was overheard praying:
'Lord, if you can't make me a better boy, don't worry about it.
I'm having a real good time like I am.'

After the christening of his baby brother in church,
Jason sobbed all the way home in the back seat of the car.
His father asked him three times what was wrong.
Finally, the boy replied,
'That preacher said he wanted us brought up in a Christian home,
and I wanted to stay with you guys.'

One particular four-year-old prayed,
'And forgive us our trash baskets
as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets.'

A Sunday school teacher asked her children as they
were on the way to church service,
'And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?'
One bright little girl replied,
'Because people are sleeping.'

A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin 5, and Ryan 3.
The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake.
Their mother saw the opportunity for a moral lesson.
'If Jesus were sitting here, He would say,
'Let my brother have the first pancake, I can wait.'
Kevin turned to his younger brother and said,
' Ryan , you be Jesus !'

A father was at the beach with his children
when the four-year-old son ran up to him,
grabbed his hand, and led him to the shore
where a seagull lay dead in the sand.
'Daddy, what happened to him?' the son asked.
'He died and went to Heaven,' the Dad replied.
The boy thought a moment and then said,
'Did God throw him back down?'

A wife invited some people to dinner.
At the table, she turned to their six-year-old daughter and said,
'Would you like to say the blessing?'
'I wouldn't know what to say,' the girl replied.
'Just say what you hear Mommy say,' the wife answered.
The daughter bowed her head and said,
'Lord, why on earth did I invite all these people to dinner?'


Peace, love and happiness

[the1much]

om my gosh Mas.,,,,me and the "ole lady" laughed our arses off,,,hehe ;)
o.k.,,,,try ta see if i can get this right :D:D:D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D:D:P

[masalai]

Now you know why I call it "galloping horses" (whores?) less than 25 at a post or Jeffs automatic thingie will stop you from posting till you delete some.. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:P

[masalai]

Is Heinz building a boat or something? - - everything has been quiet today? No wars? - My broadband is almost slower than stagnant water, (a bad move) Gold has gone to US$925 and climbing quicker than Jacks beanstalk, oil easily cracked 130/barrel and AU/US is Currency
. . . . . . .$1 AUD $1 USD €1 EUR £1 GBP ¥1 JPY $1 NZD
$1 AUD - -1 - - -0.9653 - - 0.6124 - - - 0.4909 - - - 99.7100 1.2367
$1 USD 1.0359 - - 1 - - - - 0.6342 - - 0.5085 - - - 0.0097 1.2806

So everything is sort of as expected (Gold up $75 in 2 or so weeks!) "come fly with me" and "up, up and awayeeeee" are two theme songs...

[the1much]

i scraped all the gold off my $2.99 chains,,,i bet i got at least $6.78 in pure gold now,,,,,,and they thought the oil prices would make me poor,,,hehe ;)
and i HATE waking up to 80F weather,,,,,feels like the "ole lady" has dripped sweat on me all night,,,,,,,,Thank God for air conditioning hehe ;)

[the1much]

opera is SLOW beanzy,,,my firefox is way faster,,as long as ya have some add-ons. i hate having to click a link to open it in anotha tab.,,since you got firefox,,get the "fasterfox" and coolaris preview add-on,,,haha,,just had "hit" from "fort collins",,now i got a fort afta me,,haha,,this thread "jinx's" me,,,every time im here i get a "knock",,,haha,,thats too funny,,
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
:P::P:P:P::P:P:P
;););););););););););)

[masalai]

OK Heinz, Now have a try of linux mint - - - That is the game, try the flavours till one gives you everything you need a working driver.... is your video chipset nvidia? - drivers for that are included for linux via the "envy" prog in <system> and it gets loaded into the binary of the kernel and then re-compiles the kernel.....

[Meanz Beanz]

Jeez Jim, you must be running a steam machine! I like "mouse gestures" they make browsing so fast and when I'm tired Opera reads to me, that's cool.

Fasterfox, Coolaris ? hmmm OK.

Mint... hmmm OK.

[safewalrus]

What is all this "Linus" about, thought he was a little boy with a blanket?? Maybe I'm in the wrong comic strip!!

[Meanz Beanz]

Its a hop-er-eating system, dunchano?

[Meanz Beanz]

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6738/logoqh0.jpg

Now we are cooking with gas!

[the1much]

i cant do them "mouse gesture" thingy's,,,dont have enough control over my right arm,,hehe,,sometimes my clicker finger clicks things like 7 times before i can get it to stop,,hehe ;) ,,,i also got ad block enabled on firefox,,,no pop-ups whatsoeva unless i alway it.,,you should go to the "ad-ons " on the firefox page and take a look,,,theres alot coolz things,,,specially for you smart people,,hehe ;)

[safewalrus]

Still prefer my version, Charlie Brown!

[LyndonJ]

Sygate personal firewall and AVG free

I see Kaspersky is the best anti virus now with around 99 % detection of malicious code. AVG is in the 85%

I tried Vista, it was terrible with all the security stuff and so slow it's not funny. Thought I'd share this link with anyone who was considering Vista for the supposed increased security.

http://dotnet.org.za/codingsanity/archive/2007/12/14/review-windows-xp.aspx

[Meanz Beanz]

Linux? not MS OS's... :D

[the1much]

we should take 285 points from ya for typing "considering" and "vista" in the same paragraph,,hehe,,,and the review i read said eset nod32 was by far the best,,,damned critics,and that the free version of avg isnt as good as the pro,,,,but then again they probably thought i would actually BUY it,,,ha,hehe ;)
and do ya really need the firewalls for linus?,, i thought the whole deal with it was ya didnt need all the extra security<see,,its hard to stay on subject,,hehe ;) sorry beanzy :P

[Meanz Beanz]

Yeah they say that... I am paranoid :D

[masalai]

I have been using linux for about 5 years (or is it 15?) and still haven't a clue about tweaking it apart from some of the auto-scripts that seem to do most of the setting up.... Takes me a year or two to get everything working well, then I find something I would like which won't so I switch to another flavour and start all over again...

Have not had virus, data loggers or any other infection cause I download the antivirus stuff and keep it up to date - never any problems that way.... also pop-ups are controlled and executables won't execute unless "I say to run"...

[the1much]

thats why i like my set up,,,nothing starts without my say-so,my programs cant even start other programs without my o.k.,,firefox has a "no script" thingy that doesnt allow anything to mess round with ya on a web page,,i hate it when i try to get something to pop up,,and forget to look at that bar telling me pop-up was stopped,,hehe ;) ,,and shoot,,ive had windows fer years and years,,,and still dont know anything bout it,,,hell,,i dont even know any windows shortcuts,,hahehe ;)
OHHhh i member what they said bout avg free,,,,,it gave alot of false positives on stuff.

[safewalrus]

I've been on Vista for some 8 months now! Pretyy **** to start with but like everything yo ugets used to it! Biggest problem is nothing else is compatable so you have to change out everything you use! Printers etc! And most companies don't use so it CV's and the like come out all garbled! bit of a bugger looking for jobs and things - still its handy when I fcukup!! Blame it on Vista (OH yeah it still don't spell worth a ****!!)

[masalai]

Go on Safie, Get Linux Mint - They are very close and the crew started by some Irish (ergo "Mint" - a lovely and tasty green...) - even includes drivers for the more popular drivers for printers and other stuff.... You can even get a BRITISH English dictionary.....

[safewalrus]

Naw I guess I'll stick to the sweets I'm used to - Polo mints - the ones with the holes in!!

[masalai]

Chicken.....

[safewalrus]

totally fowl!!

[masalai]

Safie, it is not that daunting really. If a big cross gorilla (singular not thousands as in writing another Shakespearian classic) can adjust and do it, surely an old experienced sailor would have little hassle in overcoming any seas of difficulty...

[Meanz Beanz]

Yeah if I can do it any hairless monkey can!

[the1much]

ALRIGHT!!!!!,,,have a banana on the house,,,hehe ;)

[masalai]

An you betta believe it or heel jump down the phone line and come and rip your bloody arms off http://www.auntyjack.org/

[Meanz Beanz]

Looks like the wireless trouble might have been a fan generating some electrical noise. XP wireless got flaky after the rebuild so I am testing a 7db remote antenna... so far so good, old Linus might get a reprieve yet. Just a case of bad timing, as always Murphy is being a prick.

[masalai]

use the Gorilla method, lots of noise and a big thump..... That makes murphy behave - - maybe he was remembering the potato disease/shortage at home....

[safewalrus]

Yeah if I can do it any hairless monkey can!


Maybe but does the term "can't be arse" have any meaning here??

Actually I don't care if it don't I still can't be arsed!!!:P :P :D :D :rolleyes:

[masalai]

Don't jump onto the linux waggon just yet Safie, Linux Mint is about to release a "stable" version fo the most recent http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=04912 (this one is stable but still for testing by the team) next iteration may say for release and locked... It is based on Ubuntu and has the additional plug-ins, codecs and drivers available for automatic installation... I am using "Daryna", the previous edition.

[safewalrus]

who's jumping?

[masalai]

Well at least back up your data files. and you could load the lovely "Daryna" - her name is at the bottom left of the screen and will cause jealousy in the house - maybe?....

[tinhorn]

who's jumping?

Oh, there are a few. Some of us are just watching from the sidelines, grinning.

(By the way, a good computer guy can remove Vista and install XP. I had to do that when new machines came only with Vista, which as you've noticed, doesn't work.)

[Meanz Beanz]

I'm skairt off vvvvvvista!

[Meanz Beanz]

Its evil, it will suck the life out of my processor!

[Jeff]

I'll catch it for saying this, but I've actually come to like vista overall now (just so you don't throw me into the fire, I have four linux boxes running and only three windows boxes... so I'm still more linux than windows) I've also resolved long ago to expect every new GUI software and os version to take noticeable extra cpu power to be as fast as the previous so I'm probably an easy customer.

[Meanz Beanz]

Yeah, with new MS OS's its just the resource hungry thing (always seems to be a quantum leap) and the extortionate price if not buying it with a new system... but then again you need the new system. The thing with Linux is getting some of the software I need running on it. Problems problems computers.... we love em :D

[Knut Sand]

I'm too scared of Vista... I have 2 computers, both XP pro, One with Trend AW the other with eeehhh, same as Tinhorn uses, both also with adaware. No problem... Run SolidWorks design program so, I have no option, gotta use Windows, and Vista was a bit too new for me when I bought the last PC (HP laptop).

Ok, then my wife bought a laptop, vista..... Ok I admit that I was thinking, how hard can it be to; get that on the home net, install drivers for the printer etc... :rolleyes: I managed to get it going, but It was not as straightforward as I had expected.....

I will stay away from vista, why have they: vista home, vista media, vista professional... how many versions are there????

All those "control" questions.... I'm sittin' here pushing the freakin' keyboard; of course I'm sure!!!

So...I'll stick to XP(P).

And Linux on my satelite receiver....:D

[masalai]

Wish to migrate to something stable, try Linux Mint... If you can burn an "iso" cd image it will self boot so you can try without installing.

After you have backed up all your data files then install in about 6 easy steps - almost a no-brainer?

Download in Australia here http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linuxmint/5/ this one "LinuxMint-5.iso 06-Jun-2008 09:28 691M"
else look here http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_elyssa.php and here for the main edition http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php to download - it has access to "restricted drivers for video cards as well as plugins and codecs for everything nice and not inhibited by American laws & litigation....:P:P:P

[masalai]

Errr Heinz, How is your "Ubuntu" going? - try the above from aarnet as no need to depend on lack of pigbond's packpone...

[Meanz Beanz]

Its not at the moment Mas, I'm frigging around rebuilding a database that munges stock data... one table has 5.5 million lines, apparently that's getting a little much for MS Access so I'm custom building a PHP/MySQL Web Appy thingy to munge this stuff around... hopefully alot faster :D

[masalai]

try mint then... also PHP & MySQL are available as downloads & often someone has built something close to needs.... keep the gpl and re post the app you have made (not the data.....:D:D:D

[Meanz Beanz]

Nobody that I have ever met munges stock data quite like I do... its a sickness of lateral thinking that is so simple that it evades smart people, it pays to be stooopid sometimes :D

[the1much]

it pays to be stooopid sometimes :D
good thng or i would NEVER have money,,hehe ;)

[masalai]

I know exactly what you mean, in the late 70's I wrote a prog to select lotto numbers and had got to the stage where I could guarantee the 6 numbers from my selection of 12 numbers out of 45 in the list (the original lotto system) - no way to lodge a "system 12" and not worried about getting all the permutations and no one could give me just the combinations formula in sets of 6..... so I deleted it......

[Meanz Beanz]

**** Mas (he exclaimed)... that sounds impossible! You ought to munge stock data... maybe you will come up with some insights. All you can achieve in my experience is to skew the probability in your favour, combine that with the correct behaviour and you are on a winner. In fact its the latter that far out weighs the former. A hard nosed pro trader can make a dart board and the news paper work. My nose is still a little soft... so I need statistical support :D

[masalai]

Heinz, Trouble is that most of the plays on all forms of the stock-market are made by young, educated, dumb/stupid babies & I am no good with kids or "anal-arse-ing" group psychology sessions - give me raw random number analysis or stuff like that - well not so much now as half my brain has retired and the other half has too many loose connections to access the database between my ears....

[masalai]

Why do programmers always get Christmas and Halloween mixed up?
Because DEC 25 = OCT 31

How do you keep a programmer in the shower all day?
Give him a bottle of shampoo which says "lather, rinse, repeat."

A system programmer came home from work almost at dawn and told his wife enthusiastically: "Tonight I have installed a new release of MVS/ESA together with VM/CMS and CICS/VS".
"G.O.O.D" answered his wife.

The Programmers' Cheer

Shift to the left, shift to the right!
Pop up, push down, byte, byte, byte!

[Meanz Beanz]

Stock market is simple, its an exercise in group psychology... about as logical as a foot ball crowd most of the time.

Mint ISO downloaded and CD prepared... :D

Ah life and its array of choices! Personally I can only count to 1.... 0,1... why go any further?

[Meanz Beanz]

How do you keep a programmer in the shower all day? Give him a bottle of shampoo which says "lather, rinse, repeat."

Must work in the MS OS department... specialize in infinite loops :D

[masalai]

I agree Heinz, binary counting is good enough for ALL computers so MUST be OK/Good :D:D:D:D

[masalai]

Heinz, Have a look at this Linux review, seems very similar to LinuxMint - but with more programming stuff and a few other things sorted - both have the same "Ubuntu" heritage - http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20080616

[Meanz Beanz]

Mint installation crap....it thinks it got it right, even displays the boot loader... thats useless though because it has not loaded the USB drivers at that point and can't see the USB keyboard.... even though its available through the rest of the boot...??? genius boys pure genius. Got another keyboard out to get past that and hey presto its knackered the XP install. I suspected this might happen when I was forced to use the "auto option" on the install because the manual option would not work, damn auto option does not even tell you what its doing.... typical crap. Trying to rescue Windows now, wife pissed off again (her machine, thanks Linux gods...)

Seems it can't deal with an multiple partition machine very well... its all good if you just want to one OS but beyond that these things ALWAYS screw up!

Pile of crap!

[masalai]

You must have the "wrong Ying & Yang"? works OK for me but then I don't have *******.....?

[the1much]

get a real puter like mine,,,,,mornin Mas,Beanzy ,,hehe ;)

[safewalrus]

Nice case, real classy

[Meanz Beanz]

You must have the "wrong Ying & Yang"? works OK for me but then I don't have *******.....?

It didn't like to many partitions... with a blank disk straight install, no worries... turns out that it renumbered all the partitions and XP just got lost. Editing the boot.ini file in XP fixed that quickly enough. The boot loader still can't see the USB keyboard so I have and extra keyboard hanging out of the box just to boot. Silly stuff that most installs do.... I mean renumbering partitions on a dual boot setup and expecting other OS's to come out of it fine... and they slag XP for having an aggressive install.

Anyway seems to be running Ok, I will start loading my proprietary drivers and see if we can't do better on the wireless side and the graphics side (a bit ropey really) then I will put a database server and web server up and see how that goes (that should be great...) and try a bit of "wine-ing" after that and see what it makes of some of the apps I don't want to leave behind (not so sure about "wine"...

Cheers
MBz

[Meanz Beanz]

get a real puter like mine,,,,,mornin Mas,Beanzy ,,hehe ;)

Mornin Jim.... nice box... no fire risk there then :D.... hot puter, I've had a couple with no boxes... current machine has no sides and two disks waving arounfd in mid air... kinda balanced on one end... must fix that. Though I'd lost a disk yesterday morning, playing up but the diag tools can find no wrong and its going fine agian.... hmmmmmmmm. Just one of those days I guess!

[masalai]

Mine recognized usb keyboards but when I used "PS2 to USB" adapters would not work on either mouse or keyboard so I am plugged into usb with unused PS2 ports.... I have quite a few points with the new edition that pisses me off - I may send my comments of displeasure to the coders....

There is an app called "wine door" which is supposed to help with the installation process (like the windows installer - but thank goodness "Free!ship+" does not need that - I just make a directory called "freeship" put the zipped package in there then extract and install without "wine door" and I am up and running.... Wine was originally developed so that dungeons and dragons could be played....

[Meanz Beanz]

Its only the boot/os loader, Mint is fine with it... but if you want to select XP off the os loader menu then... well U can't.

[masalai]

Lucky you...

[Meanz Beanz]

There is an app called "wine door" which is supposed to help with the installation process

Have located... thks Mas.

[masalai]

I have the "latest ATI" video card - not really well supported in Linux, so getting an "older" nvidea card with lots more video ram on it - I know nvidea works - - I hope???

[masalai]

Mornin Butch, Heinz, Jim, Safie, Frosty and all you other troglodytes.... Hi all, I am operating sort of mobile as I am commuting 'tween Sunshine Coast and south of Brisbane (140 km), buying a block halfway between and getting pissed off with sooooo much traffic and sooooooooooo many drivers are total ********s and must have got their licences (car driving) from the local home for "mentally incompetent and insecure idiots home/refuge" - - - At least I got mine the proper way (out of a breakfast cereal packet).... and also new toy (powerful computer) also has the latest graphics card - and no one in the linux community has released drivers yet so busily trying to find a "not so new card that will support multiple screens too"

So Butch, Thank you for your concern, Just that I refuse to work / play too hard - - - just like to progress at a leisurely pace as there is always tomorrow.....

Nvidia was too new too - bugger!

[Butch .H]

100% Mas. I will be in Brizzy in December . My daughter is emigrating to AU at the end of the year. We must hook up but untill then I will use this mode to launch my pissing contests
Regards
Butch

[masalai]

Don't forget toi piss near your own fruit trees to ensure fruit next season - - - - see advice to the1 (Jim) http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=219604#post219604

[safewalrus]

So that's where we get the expression 'pissed off' from when we miss and the fruit don't grow!

[Butch .H]

Hey Mas/ Safe. Life is like a pubic hair on a toilet seat you just get pissed off:D

[Knut Sand]

Wife's laptop conkd.

Black screen, movable cursor..... Else; nothing, no ctr, alt delete, safe mode, reload last known good configuration - nothing... Seem that MS Vista have that problem, and no good fix. Without loosing all docs (backup was not present), so how to get stuff out?

Could enter bios.

Loaded Linux on a DVD.
Added an external HDD on one of the USB ports.

Started, entered bios, altered the start up; DVD, external disc, as 1 and no 2.

restarted, loaded Linux from the DVD ran it from the dvd, copied the files to the external disc.

restarted altered bios back to earlier setup. shutted down

restarted, hitting altF10 a no of times, loading the factory setup... deleting all files.....

Machine is back in business, need to reload a few programs, internet, find the local network....

Linux is growing on me, I like it better and better..:D

[Knut Sand]

But now I have to get that fu*** Vista machine up and running on the network...router, XP machines, Linux.... I had surpressed the frustrating feelings this caused inside me the last time....

I must've done some really serious nasty things in a earlier life.... :(

Only good thing with some parts of MS is that it has put Bill Gates in the economical position to start some health programs...:D

[the1much]

vista shouldnt even be allowed to be on a comp. hehe ;)

[floydrob]

hi, i find best thing to do is have 2 or more partitions on my hdd, one smallish one for the os, and on efor everything else. when u get a virus, it always (in my case's) has gone to the system partition, so i just delete that partition and reinstall it. i had avg free version which has en the best till now cos it now costs, havent had firewall for a while but not had any viruses either....i dont mind reinstallin my os when my comp fucks up cos i styill have all myt other files, and dont pay a penny. thats the best freeware in my mind, i mean how long does it take to reinstall bloodu linux...i use gentoo, personal preference but its not alot of time wasted, givs u an excuse to sit on ur arse at the computer for a while. lol. :D

[the1much]

it isnt the "time" involved,,,,,,its "why ta hell should i have to do this",,,eons ago i had a virus kill my hd,,,,,,now,,hehe,,,well,,,no problems "knock on wood" ,, but i also make it bout impossible to get a virus,,,,,,,,i figure my time is worth money,,,,least to me it is :D,, and having to reinstall all the time is like saying,,,oh well,,, every time i get robbed in my house,, all i gotta do is call the cops and sign a few papers,,
we get viruses cause of some damned idjit that thinks doing that to us ( this includes the 90% of viruses caused by "advertisings") is funny,,,,,,well,,,, if he wants to have a comedy hour starring me,, he needs to send cash first :D
i got like 1 of those "partition" proggies,,,,,suppose to be the best on the market,,,,,never played with it tho,,,,hehe :D

[floydrob]

yeh but u cant stop all viruses, no software will, theres always a way around it, so whats the point in spendin ur hard earned cash of fancy products that only stop the bog standard viruses, the ones stopped by fancy programmes can be romoved quite esily anyway...if u r a computer boffin, its the realli bad ones u cant stop and that do the most damage, so if u can get freeware antivirus...do so, but dont spend lopads of cash on tryin to stop the small viruses, if the big ones get through u will soon know bout it, just delete the partition and reinstall....u dnt need fancy software to do that either, whatever os u use, just insert the disk and during setup, u can delete and create nu partitions, if r reali good wif comps, u could always ceate a virtual desktop and then when u get a virus, delete it, but u have to be a real comp boffin 2 do that, i just cant be fussed tbh. i keep my computin simple, it saves time and money, all round.

[the1much]

only if they know your there,,,and according to how you set up your computer,,,,yes someone can get into ANY computer,,,,but if they get into mine,,,,then their good nuff to know how to step around a little partition wall,,,hehe ;):D

this is what they said bout me Sean,,,,and Thanks,, cool site ;)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Attempting connection to your computer. . .
Shields UP! is now attempting to contact the Hidden Internet Server within your PC. It is likely that no one has told you that your own personal computer may now be functioning as an Internet Server with neither your knowledge nor your permission. And that it may be serving up all or many of your personal files for reading, writing, modification and even deletion by anyone, anywhere, on the Internet!
Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE! Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and intrusion.
Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.
All attempts to get any information from your computer have FAILED. (This is very uncommon for a Windows networking-based PC.) Relative to vulnerabilities from Windows networking, this computer appears to be VERY SECURE since it is NOT exposing ANY of its internal NetBIOS networking protocol over the Internet.

[the1much]

and i have another post where they went through ALL my ports,,,,oh,,,thats right, they couldnt,,even though i was on their site,,,they couldnt find my comp,,haha ;)

[masalai]

I would like a system that returns - - - "The computer you are accessing is busy downloading viruses to your device - have a nice day:D" - - - .............. when a port is probed or pinged :D:D:D:D:D:D

[the1much]

i had to shut off my "alerts",,we all get probed bout once every 10 minutes.

[masalai]

Aaaahhhh, now I think the aliens have graduated from probing the orofaces of "carbon units" (humans and animals) to silicon/copper units (computers) hehehe

[masalai]

Ubuntu Christian Edition is a free, open source operating system geared towards Christians. It is based on the popular Ubuntu. Along with the standard Ubuntu applications, Ubuntu Christian Edition includes the best available Christian software. The latest release contains GnomeSword, a top of the line Bible study program for Linux based on the Sword Project. There are several modules installed with GnomeSword including Bibles, Commentaries, and Dictionaries. Ubuntu Christian Edition also includes fully integrated web content parental controls powered by Dansguardian. A graphical tool to adjust the parental control settings has also been developed specifically for Ubuntu Christian Edition. The goal of Ubuntu Christian Edition is not to bring Christianity to Linux but to bring Linux to Christians.

can be downloaded from here http://www.ubuntuce.com/

[safewalrus]

What is this tribal banteryou keep going on about Mas, another of your PNG mates no doubt?

[masalai]

No, just not afflicted by common diseases.... and most of the less common ones that float around looking for a target/victim....

[safewalrus]

Ah yes know what you mean, like flautulence and all that ****!

[Knut Sand]

Ubuntu Christian Edition is a free, open source operating system geared towards Christians.

Mas... Sorry I thought you were kidding. :confused:

So, whats next?
Ubuntuhammed?
Ubuntislam?
Ubuntuateist?
Ubuntuhindu?

I see a minor dotcom-era here....

Well, on the other hand... since the release of Windows 95, and with the release of Vista and its bastardly offsprings, I'm pretty shure that these products are somehow connected to the dark side....

[safewalrus]

So now instead of a little cross around your neck you carry what? a mouse! won't you get the seeds all over your shoes -nothing worse that musturd all over yoer boots, save maybe the bigger stuff - ratchet!

[masalai]

Ubuntu already has a "Muslim edition" , and all flavours will work in your native script for many languages already.... - - Vista is the "dark side" check out the number of active viruses, and other variations, in circulation....

[the1much]

vista is like going to buy a big new power boat,,,, and coming back with a rotten dory!

[the1much]

mornin Mas, Beanzy,,afternoon Saferz ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

Mornin Jim.... :D :p

[masalai]

Hi de Hi, Ho de Ho, they didnt take me away he he.... mornin all, there is some rain on my parade seen from the office with a view, and some f***ing creep had the hide to offer to rent the place.... So I said if you aint got the money you aint got the view....

[Meanz Beanz]

Pikture of the view?:D

[the1much]

ya couldnt PAY me enough to rent to people.

[masalai]

Ooooops I uploaded 4 and they didn't go? whewe are they?
well there were 2 from a sunny day and 2 of the same scenes I took when Heinz asked - - so here are 5...

The first 3 are of Maroochydore, a while ago, sunrise and earlier today when it was raining and the 2 others are of the Marochy airport (rain today and sometime ago) That is the "office with a view"

[Knut Sand]

So now instead of a little cross around your neck you carry what? a mouse!


:D :D :D


and Mas, the Muslims did beat me to it then.....:D


So the next crusade.. is going where? sillycone valley?

Hmm, gotta think a little there.....

Picture of a valley......:P



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[masalai]

well blond wimin anyway, - and maybe KnutS knuts...

[Meanz Beanz]

Ooooops I uploaded 4 and they didn't go? whewe are they?
well there were 2 from a sunny day and 2 of the same scenes I took when Heinz asked - - so here are 5...

The first 3 are of Maroochydore, a while ago, sunrise and earlier today when it was raining and the 2 others are of the Marochy airport (rain today and sometime ago) That is the "office with a view"

Nice :cool: ;) :) :D

[the1much]

i dont blame ya for moving!! look at all those damned trees,,, and water,,,,,crap stuff!

:D

[Manie B]

Drives me up the bloomin wall when i see how close you live to the big pond. For me 2 hours drive to get my feet wet in muddy water and 9 hours drive to get to the beach. Anyway Mas sure looks good:D

[Meanz Beanz]

"big pond".... don't use those word's together, Mas will start twitching and stuff... frothing at the mouth, like... :rolleyes:

[masalai]

Call the water body "the Coral Sea" or the "Pacific Ocean" but as Heinzy is aware pig bond is an absolutely monopolistically useless organisation claiming to be a "good ISP" - yes good at overcharging and not delivering a good service....

[Meanz Beanz]

Drives me up the bloomin wall when i see how close you live to the big pond. For me 2 hours drive to get my feet wet in muddy water and 9 hours drive to get to the beach. Anyway Mas sure looks good:D

10 mins... can go twilight sailing in summer. :D

[the1much]

man i miss my midnight "skinny dipping" hehe :P

[masalai]

what your paddle pool dried up or the scorpions live in the sandbox now?

[the1much]

nope.. my scorps in his tank,,,,damned giuneas found my pool :(
hehe ;)

[masalai]

Well I can't complain about the service from the local computer shop, we are onto the third try at getting the machine I desire sorted.... I just pray that this time all things will happen as they are supposed to do and I will have a LOW power system with LOTS of grunt....

The box is smaller than an A$ page in footprint and about 6 inches high. 2 x DVD burners, space for 3 x HDD, 4gig RAM, 8 x usb-2+ ports, support for up to 4 screens that can display independent information (not a clone image of the first screen), multi-user and multi-tasking..... ready for putting on my boat (if I can sell the office with a view to pay for the boat and other expenses not to do with my boat...:D:D:D

[masalai]

Well - - AT LAST - - What with defective motherboards, defective or non-compliant ram sticks - I am finally up and running - back to UBUNTU, so now I have to find and install all the plugins and codecs and "personalise to my liking" - Bloody magic, 2 big hi-res lcd screens 4G ram, nvidia video card with enough grunt and a bloody nice AMD cpu that does not need a big refrigeration plant.... One very happy little vegemite....

[the1much]

till next week ,, :P

mornin Mas ;)

[masalai]

Fark, someone jinxed me :sad:

[masalai]

Maybe the Lord is preparing for a simpler live with no computers, no internet - Just look to the sky (weather check), PRAY, then go - with a lot more caution than the electronic age allowed us (sailors) to be stupid.....

Just hardware issues??????? first the internet refused to complete a download - so I thought "ahhhh well optusnet (I am in Brisbane) had a fart or something" - then I rang the local computer shop and the power-supply is not co-operating so looks like a 2 hour visit to the parking lot that they call "the Bruce Highway" or the M1 North..... to Buderim - bugger?

The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away...... and I am mystified?

[the1much]

maybe we should start a pickle jar for ya ;)
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=230640#post230640

[schakel]

I did an experiment with an old Pentium 2 and I installed X Ubuntu 6.06.01.
It took me a while and I had to expand the Random Acces Memory with 128 Megabyte but I have it running as a stand alone. As soon as I plug it on the net and I make an update I am pretty sure it will crash. But it works for now!

I am working on a website and I am planning to have it on line within few months. No hurry... It's not an interactive website like this one so I place it on the site of the provider. I want to use Avast as a firewall.

It is my experience in windows Avast is a very reliable viruschecker and it's for free.

[the1much]

make ya site a mozzila friendly site !! please lol ,,and i can let ya "borrow" 1 of my firewalls,,,,,,oh wait,,, they prob wont work for ubu ,, hehe ;)

[schakel]

make ya site a mozzila friendly site !! please lol ,,and i can let ya "borrow" 1 of my firewalls,,,,,,oh wait,,, they prob wont work for ubu ,, hehe ;)

I did quitte a lot of research on what browser is compatible with what and as long as it is in HTML erverything goes. But when it comes to ad inns like macromedia flash and so on then the trouble begins. Although when you look and install several versions. In the end one version will work.

[the1much]

I did quitte a lot of research on what browser is compatible with what and as long as it is in HTML erverything goes. But when it comes to ad inns like macromedia flash and so on then the trouble begins. Although when you look and install several versions. In the end one version will work.

if you are gonna put pics of things you dont want people to use,,,, the "no right click" script doesnt work with mozzilla,, i can still get them,, so make sure you water mark them.

[masalai]

Run a linux based isp with apache as the professionals do (?'cept in usa?).... Your website is not run from your tinsy / old / domestic / standard home computer... The files are uploaded to your isp where they have the capacity to process multiple "enquiries" simultaenously - I think....

[the1much]

mornin Mas ;)
hows all going?,, any bites on the houses yet?

[masalai]

Hi Jim, alll's quiet on the eastern front - - I guess it is all the interest and confusion as to when the USA will fall in the ............................ over the failing fiscal sector...

Quite a few lookers expecting to pick up a "mortgauge distress bargain" - - I can wait, no debt on one and less than 300K on the other. The way things are going (volatility and uncertainty) I may be waiting for some time.

Lesser views and a 4 year old angular monstrosity went for 4.5million so my price looks reasonable as that building could be replicated for less than 3million and give far superior views and be above sea level even if all the ice/snow melted (worst case value is 70 to 80m) and would make the property (mine) a waterfront with deep water access.... :D:D:D

[the1much]

common ice cap melting,,hehehe ;)

[masalai]

My main computers are in the "hospital" both now run Ubuntu, but it is the hardware that is poorely made - everything seems to be made for the cheapest price in asia? - where is the Quality product - - - - Fcuk this corporate demand for high profit margins. - - - I want something that I can be confident will WORK when I turn it on.... This is part (the core) of the global fiscal collapse - - greedy CEO's and other brainless fuckheads wanting to maximise their current profit margins and no care for the future.... Execution is too kind of a word for these lowlife....

Apart from a few (Sean Herron? - a man who seems to care enough to produce as best as is possible) where is the desire to produce quality and reliability in a good? - - - Is the only meaning of life a fast buck?

[Jeff]

Supermicro boards and boxes have been reliable day in and day out for me over the years... but at a price.

[masalai]

Hi Jeff, Thanks, do you happen to have a link and an id on the ACTUAL manufacturer? (I prefer to use AMD mobile cpu for its ability to operate in hot climates)

[masalai]

Microsoft releases emergency patch for IE which will be broken soon - change to Mozilla Firefox - - - it is free and works on XP etc and is "safer"....