Fonts used in the forums ...

[kengrome]

I find it difficult to read the fonts used in the boatdesign.net forums. How can I change them? Any ideas? I thought I saw a preference for this once, but I cannot find it again. Was it my imagination?

[Meanz Beanz]

I don't think you can do it Ken, you can post using a different font but that will not help you. The font I see is arial (I think), anyway its quite clear so maybe its the default font on your browser that is the problem. Try changing it, instructions here...

http://www.functionx.com/html/articles/defaultfont.htm

[kengrome]

The problem with changing my fonts in my browser is that it changes them in all the web sites I visit, and I prefer most other sites to use the fonts they are programmed to use by their developers.

It would be a nice addition to these forums if the developers would add the capability to select specific fonts. I'm still a programmer so I know how easily this can be done -- but only by the forum developers or the folks who write add-ons -- and I'm not one of them.

Oh well, changing browser fonts it is ... :cool:

[Meanz Beanz]

The only reason that I can think that your browser would show the default font is that you don't have the font that the style sheet called for or there is no progammed font. Not having the font sounds unlikely and the site must be asking for a font because if I change my browser font it has no impact at all. ?! I can't think of another valid reason for getting your default font? Have you tried another browser like Firefox or Opera?

[safewalrus]

I like the font as it is! So sorry if you don't, but hell I ain't to bothered, couldn't give a 'oss actually

[masalai]

Sooooo safie, why post? (boredom - same reason I did?)

[Meanz Beanz]

Safie, there is no guarantee you are seeing the same thing, such are the wonders of the web.

[safewalrus]

Meanz if the sixth word in your post above is "you" there's a good chance I might be?

Or maybe I'm having a 5h1t with a rug around me?



your right Mas, sheer bloody boredom!! but Meanz has perked me up a bit, we could have some fun with this!!

[charmc]

I find it difficult to read the fonts used in the boatdesign.net forums. How can I change them? Any ideas? I thought I saw a preference for this once, but I cannot find it again. Was it my imagination?

Ken,

Is it the fonts or the color scheme/lack of contrast? You can try changing the screen appearance scheme. Go to User CP, scroll down to Edit Options on the left side of the screen. Click on that, then scroll all the way down to Miscellaneous Options. There is a button to change the screen color scheme. Worth a try, maybe.

[masalai]

Get a bigger screen, put your reading glasses on and use linux/mozilla & "<ctrl>+" will give bigger text whilst "<ctrl>-" will reduce it again.... why use shit software which attracts viruses and other evils from the net when LINUX works....

[Meanz Beanz]

Meanz if the sixth word in your post above is "you" there's a good chance I might be?

No, fonts are software that are local to each machine. If you don't have the font installed some other option will be used depending on your browser/os and the way it handles these things. Normally the sites style sheet will have a hierarchy of fonts dictated, a list in the web designers order of preference. Designers tend to choose fonts based on what win-doze typically has available but that is no guarantee that the font is there and available. It could be corrupt, missing or anything! So the font you see may not be the one Ken see's, he may simply be picking one up futher down the style sheet list or be ending up with the browsers default choice.

Cheers
MBz

[kengrome]

Is it the fonts or the color scheme/lack of contrast?It'sthe font. Some letter pairs are too close which makes it difficult for me to distinguish them separately. I have already set my browser to use my pre-defined fonts instead of the fonts specified in the HTML. Problem solved ... :)

[Meanz Beanz]

The style sheet specifies tahoma with no fall back, there seems to be some issues with tahoma not always being available depending on OS, software installed etc If you are a windows user you can check availability through control panel > fonts.

Although not a directly related problem this fix will probably get tahoma back for you..

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/163277

If not you will have to uninstall and reinstall tahoma manually.

Its probably not a good font choice given the issue's that seem to surround it, boatdesign.net probably should be configured with at least one or two other fall back fonts like verdana & ARIAL.

Cheers
MBz

[artemis]

...fonts like verdana & ariel...

ARIAL

[Meanz Beanz]

So what I'm dyslexic and a bad speller... you have a point or you just like to nit pick?

[artemis]

So what I'm dyslexic and a bad speller... you have a point or you just like to nit pick?

Got your attention enough to make the change :P :D :P :D :P :D

[Meanz Beanz]

Remind me to show you the same courtesy in the future.

[Jeff]

Tually.

Its probably not a good font choice given the issue's that seem to surround it, boatdesign.net probably should be configured with at least one or two other fall back fonts like verdana & arial

Cheers
MBz
Sorry for the delay in responding -- we finally have spring here and it's nice to have open water and sunshine again after a long winter this year. But I'll look into this tomorrow. A fallback font should already be specified -- either I've made a silly error or something else is in play. Will look into it and hopefully get it fixed up ASAP.

I could also easily provide an alternate style that had a serif (e.g. times) instead of a sans serif. Would times be that font, or something more monitor friendly?

[masalai]

Thanks for the intervention Jeff, this little monkey is happy as is but I do like arial as a san-serif and times as a standard serif font, and they both seem fairly common... & readable.

[safewalrus]

For me Jeff keep it as it is! When your geting to the stage of having to whinge about the format of the forum I guess it's time to take up farming, or crochet!!

Get out and enjoy spring mate! Too long cooped up inside in the winter, Hell everything else can wait for a few weeks, get some sun in yer bones! Enjoy!!


Guess the next whinge will be about the shape of the full stops! no hang on they are called "dots" now ain't they? You know these things.....................

[safewalrus]

Beanz sorry mate I was trying to lighten the situation up a bit................somebody wants to whinge about the fonts I guess they need to examine their priorities!!

The term "get a life" springs to mind!!

[Meanz Beanz]

Actually Jeff, I have that wrong... there is a style sheet in the HTML that seems to give...

font: 10pt verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif;

...in most cases.

I was looking at vbulleti.css which was the only style sheet handed down with the page as a separate file. Doing things to quickly + I never code style sheets directly into the HTML so its not second nature to look for it there. On closer inspection vbulleti.css seems to refer to the WYSIWYG editor.

Apologies for that... OK that's me out of suggestions, you should have at least one of those available!

Cheers
MBz

[Meanz Beanz]

No worries Safie, looks like I stuffed it up anyway. A duff font can make it unreadable, especially if the eyes are not so good (not suggesting anything), if no one ever mentions it it never gets fixed. Personally on my sites I prefer to be told, I don't look at it as whinging or anything of the sort, simple fact is that although you do your best to code cleanly, test browsers os combos etc, it can still end up a dogs breakfast on some one else's machine.

[safewalrus]

See what you mean Beanz but it just seems so trivial that it's not worth woorying about - surely if you have trouble with one site you'll probably have trouble with all sites and then it's time to consider a new box o' tricks? There again maybe the guy was as bored as I was, looking for a few bites - he got 'em!;)

[Meanz Beanz]

I suppose lots of sites would be giving grief if you have issues with that font range.

[artemis]

Remind me to show you the same courtesy in the future.
In the same manner you do to others? :P :D :P :D :P :D

[Meanz Beanz]

OK, I know who and what you are now... thanks. Play the ball, I know it probably runs against the grain but play the ball.