Memorable Quotes

[Meanz Beanz]

Add your favourites...

Smart is believing only half of what you hear, genius is knowing which half

Schools teach you to imitate. If you don't imitate what the teacher wants you get a bad grade. Here, in college, it was more sophisticated, of course; you were supposed to imitate the teacher in such a way as to convince the teacher you were not imitating, but taking the essence of the instruction and going ahead with it on your own. That got you A's. Originality on the other hand could get you anything -- from A to F. The whole grading system cautioned against it."

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, ch. 16, 1974

The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education.

The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they're okay, then it's you.

[masalai]

Old matron banging on the head of a kindergarten 4 yr old whilst saying "Even Chinee know - seve foure - - eleve..." I never forgot that 7 + 4 = 11... cept totally useless at adding any other numbers... even as a forgetful 63 yr young bastardito...

masalai

[Meanz Beanz]

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly, is to fill the world with fools.

“The person who goes farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure-thing boat never gets far from shore.”

12345... Once I caught an Ape alive...

[masalai]

678910... Then I let him go again...

[the1much]

Doug Larson= the surprising thing about young fools, is how many survive to be old fools
John Stuart Mill= Men are men before they are lawyers,physicians,or merchants.or manufactures. And if you make them capable and sensible men, they will make themselves capable and sensible lawyers,physician or so.
The1much= i think i just had a brain Fart,,hehe ;)

[RHP]

40% of Americans think Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.

[westlawn5554X]

40% of Americans think Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.

nah... shes a welder... doing stick welding?... ARC? or sub-arc?

[westlawn5554X]

famous quote...

look ma no hand...

[safewalrus]

the one I always like was some General (have been told, frequently but still manage to forget - age I guess) during the American Civil War (you know when the southern Gentlemen decided they didn't want to be Yankees anymore like it said in the constitution, so they left, like it said; but that's another story, proves something!)

Anyway this here General was out riding one day with his staff checking out the enemy lines - his aide got a little frightened (understandable, it ain't to good to get your boss killed) and suggested that they get back a bit as the opposition had 'sharpshooters' out! To which our General replied "Nonsense they couldn't hit a barn door at this dist..................... Wicked I love it!!

[murdomack]

Old cynics rules: "Believe nothing that you hear, and only half of what you see."

General Zapata: "It is better to die on your feet than live forever on your knees."

Dolores Ibarruri (Pasionaria)(Spanish Basque Politician, Journalist and Orator):
"It is better to be the widow of a hero than the wife of a coward."
She also used Zapata's quotation.

Mahatma Ghandi: “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” “Be the change you want to see in the world.” “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” “What do I think of Western civilisation? I think it would be a very good idea.” “Nonviolence is a weapon of the strong”

[murdomack]

"I feel I should announce that reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated (and I just know someone will steal that line in the future....)" Bergalia, copied by Mark Twain.

[the1much]

some smart dude::talking to a room full of executives, teaching them to be smarter , and richer..after all was said,,he asked" are there any questions?" 1 guy asked,,,"to what do you attribute your great fortune?"the smart dude replied,," there are 2 rules to making million,,rule #1 Dont tell people everything you know,,then he looked up to the crowd and asked,,,"are there anymore questions?"

[Meanz Beanz]

"Whosoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce...and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." …

James Abram Garfield (19 November 1831 - 19 September 1881) was the 20th President of the United States (1881), and the second U.S. President to be assassinated. Within weeks of releasing this statement President Garfield was assassinated, after only six months and fifteen days in office.

[safewalrus]

Murdo, nice to see this Delores dame was talking about her husband rather than herself........................................mmmmm puts a new light on it doesn't it?

[murdomack]

Murdo, nice to see this Delores dame was talking about her husband rather than herself........................................mmmmm puts a new light on it doesn't it?

Yeah, but I think he was dead by then. She has a statue on the Clyde River Walkway, so she was obviously liked at the time.

[safewalrus]

Not in her own country? that does surprise me! Unfortunately this sceptered isle has a habit of putting up statues to all and sundry unkowns for strange reasons, often unknow to even the sculpter of the statue!

[murdomack]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Pasionaria

You can read about her here. The reason that she has a statue on the Clyde is down to the volunteering of a lot of Glaswegian socialists to fight the Fascists in Spain in the 1930's.
They would probably have been labelled commies at the time, but if more had joined them, WW2 might not have taken place. Then again, we may all have ended up as commies. You can't win in this world.

[murdomack]

Here is some more, so maybe she deserved her statue.

(7) Dolores Ibárruri, speech in France on 8th September 1938.

The Spanish people would rather die on its feet than live on its knees. And do not forget, and let no one forget, that if today it is our turn to resist fascist aggression, the struggle will not end in Spain. Today it's us; but if the Spanish people is allowed to be crushed, you will be next, all of Europe will have to face aggression and war.



(8) Dolores Ibárruri, speech in Barcelona on 29th October 1938.

Comrades of the International Brigades! Political reasons, reasons of state, the good of that same cause for which you offered your blood with limitless generosity, send some of you back to your countries and some to forced exile. You can go with pride. You are history. You are legend. You are the heroic example of the solidarity and the universality of democracy. We will not forget you; and, when the olive tree of peace puts forth its leaves, entwined with the laurels of the Spanish Republic's victory, come back! Come back to us and here you will find a homeland.

[masalai]

Shakespeare put these words in Mark Anthony's mouth from Julius Caesar - - "....The evil that men do lives after them, the good, is oft interred with their bones,..."

Still on the bards' writings, Shylock's advice to his son from the "Merchant of Venice" was quite sage going in the style. - "...Neither a beggar nor borrower be..."

[the1much]

Arnold Schwarzenegger, BAD actor,,,,even worse politician,,,"I'll Be Back!"
hehe ;)

[the1much]

It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.
- Robert Anton Wilson

[Meanz Beanz]

M, UR sounding kulchurd!

[Meanz Beanz]

Jim... mebe in your part of the werld! :D

[masalai]

the1, that is soooo confusing - as here, Liberals are the "conservatives". . . except the Labour Party, which was the left wing - psudo socialist group - has now taken the political middle ground, leaving the Liberal conservatives with nowhere to go except "rabid right wing" - buddies of the shrub ? like that little fool johnny H... who is working in the USA??? lucky you he he he ...

[Meanz Beanz]

Labour is the new Liberal, which means that the Democrats can go left and the Liberals can go Democrat and the Nationals can go.....?

[masalai]

and disappear in true singular fashion (shades of black holes...)

[StrandedMariner]

"When a man opens the car door for his wife, it's either a new car or a new wife. " (Prince Philip)

[Meanz Beanz]

I have my tea white and sour like my wife and my coffee black and sweet like my girlfriend.

Author deceased, wife up on homicide charges :D

[the1much]

this just came in da mail,,,as a John Glenn Quote,,
John Glenn
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.
In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January.

That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq ..





When some claim that President Bush shouldn't
have started this war, state the following:



a. FDR led us into World War II.
b. Germany never attacked us; Japan did.
From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost
an average of 112,500 per year.



c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea
North Korea never attacked us .
From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost .
an average of 18,334 per year.



d. John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.
Vietnam never attacked us.



e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.
From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ..
an average of 5,800 per year.





f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.
Bosnia never attacked us .
He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three
times by Sudan and did nothing.

Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.



g. In the years since terrorists attacked us ,

President Bush has liberated two countries,

crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida,

put nuclear inspectors in Libya , Iran , and, North Korea
without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who
slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.

The Democrats are complaining
about how long the war is taking.

But Wait



It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno
to take the Branch Davidian compound.
That was a 51-day operation..



We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons
in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find
the Rose Law Firm billing records.



It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the
Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard
than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his
Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.

It took less time to take Iraq than it took
to count the votes in Florida !!!

Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB !
The Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant
to realize the facts

But wait!



There's more!


JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)

Some people still don't understand why military personnel
do what they do for a living.. This exchange between
Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum
is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive
impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one
man's explanation of why men and women in the armed
services do what they do for a living.


JOHN GLENN
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what
some who have never served think of the military.

Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps.
I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.
My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different
occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my
checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was
not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the
daily cash receipts to the bank.'

'I ask you to go with me . . as I went the other day...
to a veteran's hospital and look those men ..
with their mangled bodies .. in the eye, and tell THEM
they didn't hold a job!
& You go with me to the Space Program at NASA
and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans
of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...
and you look those kids in the eye and tell them
that their DADS didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
Arlington National Cemetery , where I have more friends
buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch
those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think about this nation,
and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

What about you?'
For those who don't remember
During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney
representing the Communist Party in the USA
&

Now he's a Senator!


If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.

[the1much]

The follies which a man regrets most, in his life, are those which he didn't commit when he had the opportunity.
- Helen Rowland

[safewalrus]

the One! Well said friend, the military are doing a good job! Despite what the cowards and traitors say OK its hard, grim and at times not very nice (like most wars) but they are doing it despite this - All of them, no matter who's, yours, ours, Masalai's or even the Canadians!!

Now for the rest of you get out there and damn well give them your support (I ain't talking to the Veterans, you've already done your bit, and if called would go again, no matter how old!!)

[masalai]

My, the1, keep those brain farts happening... I am really appreciating your sharing of these items....

This is allowing me to catch up in "learn something new every day"

[the1much]

if i wanted to catch up,,,,id have to read fer a year hehe ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

"A great many people think they are thinking when they are really rearranging their prejudices"

William James

[Pericles]

Please let us have feedback as to whether this writer has captured the essence. It's the opinion of one Paul Wilcox and I believe he is dead right. I loathe, detest, despise and cannot abide the nail biting, nose picking, greenie gobbling, socialist **** we have for Prime Minister. I wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwgTvM1DtQo

"It's a good thing that British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's U.S. visit was upstaged by the dramatic reception Americans gave Pope Benedict XVI. Brown might have been booed if he hadn't delivered what aides called his "signature" speech within the cloistered walls of Harvard's Kennedy Center.

Brown's tedious, hour-long speech impudently demanded that we issue a "Declaration of Interdependence" in order to submit to global governance. That's another way of calling on us to repeal our Declaration of Independence.

No thanks for the advice, Mr. Brown. Brave Americans rose up and rejected Britain's royalist rule in 1776, and we've gotten along mighty well without transatlantic interference in our government for more than two centuries. We certainly don't want to reinstate any foreign supervision today.

The redundancy of Brown's outrageous semantics was oppressive. His speech used the word global 69 times, globalization 7 times, and interdependence 13 times. He referred to Kennedy 19 times, lavishing fulsome praise on John F. ("his influence abides everywhere"), Robert (he sent forth "ripples of hope"), and Ted ("one of the greatest Senators in more than two centuries").

Brown rejected the traditional concept of national sovereignty, which means an independent nation not subservient to any outside control, telling us to replace it with "responsible sovereignty," which he defined as accepting what he calls our global "obligations." Hold on to your pocketbook.

Brown admitted that his "main argument" is that we must accept "new global rules," "new global institutions," and "global networks." Brown's global rules include massive U.S. cash handouts and opening U.S. borders to the world.

Brown's use of well-known American political phrases was tacky. He tried to morph FDR's New Deal into a "New Global Deal," and JFK's New Frontier into "the New Frontier is that there is no frontier."

Brown even slipped in an attempt at thought control: "Americans must learn to think inter-continentally." He declaimed, "We are all internationalists now."

Using the rhetorical device of inevitability, Brown warned us that his vision of the globalist future is "irreversible transformation." He wants to "transcend states" and "transcend borders" as he builds the "architecture of a global society."

Brown peddled the nonsense that the peoples of the world "subscribe to similar ideals." He tried to tell us that all religions (Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists) have "common values" and "similar ideals." No, they certainly do not.

Brown wants to increase the power of the United Nations to become the source of "an international stand-by capacity of trained civilian experts, ready to go anywhere at any time," and even be able to exercise "military force." Americans do not intend to cede such authority to the corrupt UN.

The silliest part of Brown's ponderous speech was his claim that "a global society" is "advancing democracy widely across the world." In fact, he doesn't even practice democracy in his own country.

Brown refused to allow the British people to vote on whether or not they want to accept the European Union (EU) constitution. He acquiesced in the plot of the constitution's author, Valery Giscard d'Estaing, to put the EU constitution into effect by calling it a treaty so it did not have to be voted on by the people.

Brown was chicken about the treaty subterfuge and did not permit a photographic record of his participation. He sent his Foreign Secretary to perform the official treaty signing in front of cameras.

The EU constitution, now called the Treaty of Lisbon, requires all signers to surrender their sovereignty and democracy to unelected bureaucrats in Brussels and judges in Strasbourg. The EU constitution takes away England's right to pass its own laws, forces England to surrender more than 60 UK vetoes of EU decisions, and gives the EU bureaucracy and tribunals total control over England's immigration policy.

Instead of a self-governing nation whose democratic system was developed over centuries, England is now ruled by what Margaret Thatcher called "the paper pushers in Brussels."

Brown made his globalism speech emphatic by repeatedly invoking the words "New World Order." The New World Order Brown tries to con the United States into accepting would mean taxing Americans for foreign handouts so immense they would make the Marshall Plan look puny, global warming rules to drastically reduce our standard of living, and putting American workers in a common labor pool with the world's billions who subsist on less than $2 a day.

Gordon Brown invited us to march forward to globalism "where there is no path." He's correct that there is no path on which we can expect globalism to lead us to a better world; in fact every path toward global government is a surrender of our liberty and our prosperity.

Gordon Brown should go back home and study up on how Americans refused to accept orders from King George III."

C'mon everyone. Let me know if Brown's your man? :P :P :P :P :P

[the1much]

Punctuality is the virtue of the bored.
- Evelyn Waugh

[the1much]

Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
- Friedrich von Schiller

[RHP]

"One can live for years sometimes without living at all and then all life comes crowding into one single hour" [Oscar Wilde]


"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." - H.L.Mencken

[safewalrus]

Pericles there are times when I disagree completely with both you and what you say but on this occasion I TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERY WORD YOU HAVE UTTERED ABOUT THE SLIMY LITTLE CREEP WE HAVE FOR PRIME MINISTER, he's even worse than the last one - not that I would have thought that possible! But al least Mr. B' Liar WAS actually ELECTED into Office! How Brown has the termerity to condemn Mugabe I don't know! At least Mugabe allowed his people to vote!! Totally ignored it, but he did let them vote!!

As for Paul Wilcox, what a nice polite man - had some bloody foreigner come and told me what he told America ('special friend or not) he'd have been deported with a very large boot up his backside, and told NEVER to return! What a pity he came back here!

Sorry people, rant over

[tinhorn]

"It's a good thing that.....

Good Lord, has the entire world gone crazy? I thought we settled this question in 1783.

[tuantom]

"Anything worth doing is worth doing half-assed - So at least you can say you tried"

-Paul Grens

Seems a great many people follow this ethos.

[the1much]

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
- Krishnamurti
There is no greater impotence in all the world like knowing you are right and that the wave of the world is wrong, yet the wave crashes upon you.
- Norman Mailer

[Meanz Beanz]

Jim, if you get to serious I will have to get silly... http://foolstown.com/sm/gy.gif

[masalai]

Tinhorn, it must be that too many people are drinking rubbish coffee and should graduate to a quality tea - and I am NOT talking about that pretend green **** of "Ceylon tea".... Boston Tea Party - Here I come......

[the1much]

serious?,,,why?,,,,not me,,,,i dont even read that CRAP,,just figure you guys might,,,hehe ;)
and mornin beanzy :P

[Meanz Beanz]

http://www.galynne.com/Feel%20Good%20Tribe/hello%20ralph%20hello%20sam.jpg

[the1much]

Night "Ralf",,,See ya in the damned mornin "sammo"
my quote for the night,,"**** im tired,,,worked me like a red headed step child"
hehe ;) :P :D ;)

[charmc]

Please let us have feedback as to whether this writer has captured the essence. It's the opinion of one Paul Wilcox and I believe he is dead right. "It's a good thing that British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's U.S. visit was upstaged by the dramatic reception Americans gave Pope Benedict XVI. Brown might have been booed if he hadn't delivered what aides called his "signature" speech within the cloistered walls of Harvard's Kennedy Center.

Brown's tedious, hour-long speech impudently demanded that we issue a "Declaration of Interdependence" in order to submit to global governance. That's another way of calling on us to repeal our Declaration of Independence. ... Gordon Brown should go back home and study up on how Americans refused to accept orders from King George III."

Perry,

That was a great quote. I, too, agree with the author. I don't know who Paul Wilcox is, but the author of that great piece is Phyllis Schlafly: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=62483

"Phyllis Schlafly is a lawyer, conservative political analyst and the author of the newly revised and expanded "Supremacists: The Tyranny of Judges and How to Stop It." Schlafly also is founder and president of Eagle Forum."

[charmc]

this just came in da mail,,,as a John Glenn Quote,,
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):
'How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?'
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):
'I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps.
I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.
My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different
occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my
checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was
not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the
daily cash receipts to the bank.'

'I ask you to go with me . . as I went the other day...
to a veteran's hospital and look those men ..
with their mangled bodies .. in the eye, and tell THEM
they didn't hold a job!
& You go with me to the Space Program at NASA
and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans
of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...
and you look those kids in the eye and tell them
that their DADS didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in
Arlington National Cemetery , where I have more friends
buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch
those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think about this nation,
and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

Well said. John Glenn was the real deal. That exchange actually took place on the campaign trail in Ohio in 1974, when John Glenn defeated appointed incumbent Metzenbaum to begin his career in the US Senate.

My Dad was a Pearl Harbor attack survivor. His job was courier, running between buildings carrying messages during the bombing, as the power and phone lines were knocked out. I was Army, spent time in East Berlin and East Germany in the early 70's. Learned a lot about the meaning of freedom from those people who had none.

[charmc]

A few gems from George Orwell:

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

"Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."

"All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting."

G'night, all.

[Meanz Beanz]

"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance"

Confucius

"The more I know the more I know I don't know"

Meanz Beanz and mebe a few thousand others...

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."

Donald Rumsfeld

"Geniuses make quotes and fools repeat them"

Some arrogant smart dude!

"Man is more ape than many of the apes"

Friedrich Nietzsche

[the1much]

well charlie,,,,you and ya dad are both my heros ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

I got the flu, the chemist is my hero.

[the1much]

take 2 bananas and post us in the mornin hehe ;)
or,,,,i could send some of my "meds" hehe ;)

[safewalrus]

"All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting."




Totally agree with you there Charlie mate!

[Paulo.AS]

"The more I get to know Man, the more I like my dogs." - Unknown

"I'd never be member of a club that would accept ME as a member" (no pun intended guys)- Groucho Marx

"A boat is a hole in the water surrounded by fiberglass into which you pour money." - Unknown

"Between the waves and the rocky shore, the mussel will pay the bill." - Brazilian saying

"Sleepy shrimps get washed away by the tide." - Brazilian saying

[the1much]

I believe in looking reality straight in the eye and denying it.
- Garrison Keillor
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
- Hunter S. Thompson

[charmc]

well charlie,,,,you and ya dad are both my heros ;)

My Dad was the hero; I was a Cold War warrior; never had to shoot, never got bombed or shot at for real. The real heroes of that time were the people who risked everything to cross over and under the Berlin Wall.

[Paulo.AS]

"I don't smoke, don't drink and don't do grugs. But I do lie a little bit!"
- Tim Maia -

[the1much]

anyone serving at anytime is a hero to me,,,,i tried going in,,,but my um,,,,papers at the local "cop shop" stopped me,,,hehe ;)

[the1much]

P.S. ,,,,,a hero isnt just someone that risk his life,,,,its someone WILLING to risk their life , and stands his watch.

[masalai]

I think some president is attributed with something like "...I smoked Marijuana, but did not inhale..." I suppose out of sheer embarrassment he should remain anonymous?

[the1much]

i sold a bag of weed to a guy named ,,errr,,,bill,,or,,william,,,something like that,,,he looked like he thought he was a president,,hehe ;) ,,mornin Mas. :D

[Meanz Beanz]

"I Reject Your Reality & Substitute My Own"

Adam Savage

"One more face lift and she will have a beard!"

Meanz Beanz and some other dude.

[the1much]

i wouldnt touch that with your d!*k ,,Much to friend at ugly woman in bar
mornin beanzy
"im so high, i gotta look down to see up" hehe,,um,,,some hippie hehe ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

I think some president is attributed with something like "...I smoked Marijuana, but did not inhale..." I suppose out of sheer embarrassment he should remain anonymous?

"I didn't inhale either!"

Monica Lewinsky

[Meanz Beanz]

G'Night Jim...

Hippie quotes, now there is some potential!

[the1much]

mornin you upside down backward people down there hehe ;)
...
No wise man ever wished to be younger.
- Jonathan Swift

There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
- Steven Wright

[the1much]

1 more for down unda..
"Before becoming an Australian you will be asked to subscribe to certain values. If you have strong objections to those values, don't come to Australia." – Treasurer Peter Costello.

[Meanz Beanz]

Ahhhh Peter, we love to hate our treasurers down here.. personally I didn't mind the guy but if you are the man with the budget strings you are always a B.... dems the cockeyed rules down here.

[masalai]

Heinz may like the fool, but I don't.... and his little buddy Johnny Howard has gone the same way as the shrub will soon... - - OUT...

[Meanz Beanz]

There I disagree totally, given that the global macro economic environment dictates certain criteria they left Australia well placed in most regards. It was a difficult tight rope to walk and federally we did OK. Kevin in many ways is going to face bigger challenges, again set by the macro environment lets hope he does not completely destroy Australia like his fool colleagues once destroyed Victoria.

Peter was no fool M, he warned loud and clear of the dangers now unfolding, by and large our media chose to ignore him and gave scant coverage to the warnings and Ian McFarlane's comments for that matter as well. Its no wonder that both these guys have stepped back here, they get the issues and they also understood that they where playing a defensive but ultimately unwinnable game in the context of the actions of the three major economic power blocks.

[the1much]

oppssss,,,did i start sumfin? hehehe ,,,thats why i know NOTHING bout politics,,,,,cause spelled backwards,,,politics spell,,no one wins,,,
but,,,that dont mean i dont like watchin 2 otha buddies have a "knock-down-dragg-out" ova sumfin i said,,hehehehe :D ;)

[masalai]

huh? :D:D:D:D:D

[the1much]

and before ya even say so,,i know you 2 are real "boat dudes" so i know you'll have a discussion and not shoot at each other,,,so,,,,,,aim at will,,,hehe,,<see sometimes we need to say this before some idiot jumps in and starts runnin their pie hole thinkin we're all "haters" like they are ..

[the1much]

huh? :D:D:D:D:D

need to change that to "the quote of innocence" hehe :P:D:D:D:D:D;)

[Meanz Beanz]

In the end they are all politicians and the product of our collective subjective desires, we love to judge and punish irrationally if those subjective desires don't match with reality. This is the moral hazard that Kevin is walking into, I hope he is a strong man because the best course will take courage to chart, if we get emotional reactions here we are in trouble. Our history indicates that emotional reactions will rule the day and discipline will be absent... we will see how this plays out soon enough, to soon for me.

[the1much]

they always say " theres a time and place for------" or a time and place for everything,,,,,and that includes emotions,,,,,emotions play a big part in our lives,,,,but when your responsible for MANY MANY MANY (cause we gotta count future ones too) lives,,,and their future,,emotions need to be second,,,,logic,,(not book smarts,,,like common (un-common i mean) sense,,and life smarts) need ta be first,,,then i think a close third should be,,,,,call me and ask what i think,,hehe ;)

[the1much]

well niters you 2,, these 18 hour days making me feel old hehe ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

Your as old as the woman you feel Jim :D

[masalai]

The1, Don't get your hairy head all bothered, we is big boyz and we is OK - - I think?

[Meanz Beanz]

You will get an argument out of me but you won't get a grudge, play the ball and we stay friends play the man and lose my respect.

[Meanz Beanz]

Who knows we may both learn something out of the "creative tension"... :D

[the1much]

FINALLY,,,,,i knew you 2 were "grown ups",,just figured if i said it out loud,,,,,we may give others a "hint" of how to play in the sand box :D

[the1much]

Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows.
- David T. Wolf

The men who really believe in themselves are all in lunatic asylums.
- GK Chesterton

[Meanz Beanz]

“Live life fully while you're here. Experience everything. Take care of yourself and your friends. Have fun, be crazy, be weird. Go out and screw up! You're going to anyway, so you might as well enjoy the process. Take the opportunity to learn from your mistakes: find the cause of your problem and eliminate it. Don't try to be perfect; just be an excellent example of being human.”

Anthony Robbins

Not that I am a disciple, but hey....

[the1much]

aint he that giant dude that makes grown bald guys squeal making them think that their special and can make big $$ hehehe ;)
he's actually pretty coolz :D

[Meanz Beanz]

Yeah hes the giant ra-ra feel good dude that makes squillion... Never seen him but have worked with folk that bought into it all.

[the1much]

To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three men, two of whom are absent.
- Robert Copeland
Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything.
- Floyd Dell
I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.
- Bethania McKenstry

[charmc]

"Having examined all of the data provided by Ford Motor Company, it is the opinion of this team that, in the absence of drastic changes in the management principles and practices of the parent company, it will not be possible for Ford to turn Jaguar into a profitable operation. The best course of action for both companies is, in our opinion, for Ford to sell the Jaguar subsidiary."

My son, in a competition sponsored by Ford while he was earning his MBA. The year was 1998. (His team won the competition. Ford's management had reached a similar conclusion, but the Ford family refused to sell Jaguar for many years, on the grounds that it would make them look bad.)

OK, so that's bragging, but he's my son. :)

[the1much]

wanna sell him,,,,or maybe jus rent him out for "special" occasions hehe ;)
and tell him he's a show off! ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

Who'd buy an English car company in the first place? eeek...!

[charmc]

Especially one that relies for all electrical parts on Lucas, Prince of Darkness. :D

[the1much]

There is nothing more dreadful than imagination without taste.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
We rarely think people have good sense unless they agree with us.
- Francois de La Rochefoucauld
It is well that war is so terrible - otherwise we would grow too fond of it.
- Robert E. Lee

[masalai]

"Oh ****, I should not have said that... Oh bugger I should not have said ****... ahhhh fcuk it, let it happen..."
masalai - a case for/of foot in mouth disease... :D:D:D:P

[Tug]

Where the fcuk is all this water coming from....
Captain of the Titanic

[charmc]

"It's always concerning when a vessel buckles like that ... It's not supposed to happen." Petty Officer Michael D____ - U.S. Coast Guard spokesperson, 2 May, 2008.
Statement issued after Barge ITB-270 broke in half as it was being loaded with gravel at the Ash Grove Cement terminal on Harbor Island, WA.

[SaltOntheBrain]

Especially one that relies for all electrical parts on Lucas, Prince of Darkness. :D

That's why the English drink warm beer, Lucas wired thier refridgerators, too.

[Meanz Beanz]

"We weren't elected to be popular"

Wayne Swan
Australian Treasurer budget night 2008

Man this guy worries me, some of the things he says.... bit like Carter and his "strange and mysterious causes of inflation"... here is a clue num nut... stop printing too much fecking money! :rolleyes:

crank crank crank....

[the1much]

Misquotations are the only quotations that are never misquoted.
- Hesketh Pearson

Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge.
- Paul Gauguin

[kach22i]

http://carnuts.us/viewtopic.php?t=4351
Some early week musings...


I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.

The easiest way to find something lost around the house is to buy a replacement.

Since everyone has a camcorder these days, no one talks about seeing UFOs like they used to.

A good friend is like a good bra. Hard to find, supportive, comfortable, and always close to your heart.

Change is inevitable, except from vending machines.

If you think nobody cares, try missing a couple of payments.


...others?

[Meanz Beanz]

"One of the penalties for refusing to particapate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors."

Plato 427?-347? B.C.

[masalai]

the1, I quote from your post in a deceased thread that was called "Want to share your boat's snaps with others?" and you said - - "im thinkin Jeff should "kick" this 1 to the curb,,,,,,do they not think we know their jus a damned ad " - - and it worked - so feel proud of yourself - - - - :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Obviously, I did not read it, before posting a lot of irrelevant rubbish....

[StrandedMariner]

'Scattered f*****g showers my a$$!'
Noah, 5048 BC

[masalai]

All depends where your ass is?

[StrandedMariner]

All depends where your ass is?

:) You got that right! Well his was obviously not on top of Mt. Ararat yet.

[Meanz Beanz]

http://www.chrismadden.co.uk/eco/Noah's-Ark-climate-change.jpg

[masalai]

Good one Heinz, I like your new avatar - but not as wise and demanding of respect as previous:D:D:D:D:D

[Meanz Beanz]

What can I say, I'm a dawg.... :D

[the1much]

wells Mas,,,if i knew that was the 1 time Jeff took my advice,,,i wouldnt have wasted it on that idiot hehe ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

Seems U R A ero Jim! Sorry I missed it... morning Ralph!

[masalai]

the1, being a slow learner it took me quite a while to realise that I would have to read your post in the email as I was not going to get to the thread because Jeff had removed it.... he he he

I was soooo busy casting "red herrings" I forgot to read the post properly....

[masalai]

Good evening all?

[Meanz Beanz]

"Here poof, eat this curry, it will teach you what your bum is for!"

My very non PC cookery teacher.... 197?!

[Meanz Beanz]

"God could have created aliens too"

The Vatican Wed May 14, 2008

[the1much]

good evenin Mas,,,,Beanzy,,,,and "tips" can be sent via Pay Pal to,,,the1muchisourhero.com,,,hehe ;)
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
- Douglas Adams

There must be more to life than having everything.
- Maurice Sendak

History is the short trudge from Adam to atom.
- Leonard Louis Levinson

[masalai]

And low and behold, the Pommy Govt releases lots of files on UFO sightings from the secret dossias of the X-files.... - all are available to peruse on the web for a couple of weeks - dunno where.....

[the1much]

does that foil hat work?,,,im thinking i KNEW someone was taking me away at night,,and doing BAD things to me,,,sniffffffle,,,whimper,,,,and the local police looked at me like i was crazy!!! hehe ;)

[Meanz Beanz]

Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
- Douglas Adams

Never heard that one but its been a mantra of mine for years, different phrasing but same sentiment!

[Meanz Beanz]

Foil werks for me.... cheaper than my shrink and meds.

[the1much]

k,,,,foil next,,,and i got it bad,,,so maybe foil suite,,hehe ;)

[RHP]

"God could have created aliens too"

The Vatican Wed May 14, 2008

Rather than spouting complete and utter bow-locks, shouldnt these vatican chappies be saving lives in Burma and China?

What a great job that guy has, he´ll never die of ulcers.......

[Meanz Beanz]

Apparently you can sign up for SMS's from the Pope these days!




Maybe revenue is down?

[Meanz Beanz]

http://www.westernsafety.com/chicagoprotective/cppg2approachsuit.jpg

:D

[the1much]

THATS WHAT I NEED! hehe ;) :P

[masalai]

A surprising side effect is the capacity to get "right of way" or "go to the front sir" and respect accompanied by that health aid - laughter... Oh happy days,,, Oh HAppy daYS.....

[Meanz Beanz]

Hmmmm, sounds good. I might get a suit to go with my hat.

[tinhorn]

"God could have created aliens too"

The Vatican Wed May 14, 2008

Ever notice that since camcorders became popular, we're not hearing of nearly as many UFO sightings as before?

[masalai]

So it was you who was the Radio National (Australia) listner yesterday when the announcer was passing wind on the British release of UFO informative files - managed to find a local UFOlodist who suggested Australia should do likewise, and regretted lack of video footage referring to phone cams as well then said 3 reports came in that day - no photographs....

[Meanz Beanz]

I though UFO's had just gone out of fashion? Even us foil hat wearing types don't go there, it just crushes your street cred man!

[the1much]

oh,,,my bad,,,,,,,,i thought we jus replaced u.f.o. with illegal immigrants ,,hehe ;)

[tinhorn]

True story - a few years ago my job was creating book cover art. One customer requested a spacecraft in the artwork - the very latest model!

[Meanz Beanz]

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z80/MeanzBeanz/stuff/abduction-lamp.png

The alien abduction lamp!

[masalai]

Sooooo tin, what did you draw?

[Meanz Beanz]

The latest model... (http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=opera&rls=en&q=spaceship+one&btnG=Search+Images)

[masalai]

Gee that is very similar to those of the 30's 40's and 50's comics

[Meanz Beanz]

Spaceship One is cool... 20 million to conceive, design and build. Nasa spent more than that on a pen to write in space.... The USSR said feck it we will use pencils...LOL.

[masalai]

So, it just goes to show where the smarts reside....

Are they for real and am I barking up the wrong tree? - - http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=202008#post202008

[the1much]

im thinkin sign language would of been cheaper hehe ;)

[safewalrus]

Yeah - two fingers (or in some cases one) says it all - but is kind of limited!

[masalai]

ooooh ahhhh are you guys secretly Treckies or something, using Grannies "Hawaian greeting of happiness" I will send/post that story soon, It needs the wording correctly put for total impact and laughter....

[Meanz Beanz]

http://www.michaelmoore.com/_images/splash/livelong.jpg

[the1much]

live long and prosper hehe ;)

[the1much]

I'm too shy to express my sexual needs except over the phone to people I don't know.
- Garry Shandling

The reason there is so little crime in Germany is that it's against the law.
- Alex Levin

Happiness is nothing more than good health and a bad memory.
- Albert Schweitzer

The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern.
- Lord Acton

[Meanz Beanz]

Like number 3 :D

[the1much]

Defining and analyzing humor is a pastime of humorless people.
- Robert Benchley

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument.
- William G. McAdoo

Some things have to be believed to be seen.
- Ralph Hodgson

A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on.
- Samuel Goldwyn

#2 is my fav.,,,,i try to tell people its not worth their breathe to argue with me,,,they'll learn hehe ;)

[safewalrus]

I find that number two interesting as well, so very true - especially when I argue with myself!!

[the1much]

Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century.
- Dame Edna Everage

Formerly, when religion was strong and science weak, men mistook magic for medicine; now, when science is strong and religion weak, men mistake medicine for magic.
- Thomas Szasz

A chess genius is a human being who focuses vast, little-understood mental gifts and labors on an ultimately trivial human enterprise.
- George Steiner

[safewalrus]

It's all bollocks! Tricky Dicky, Newbury Bypass, 1997

[Meanz Beanz]

"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils"

- Louis Hector Berlioz

"Girls are like phones. We love to be held, talked too and if you press the wrong button you'll be disconnected!"

-?

"Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers."

- Homer Simpson

[masalai]

Wooo Hooo ! I got another winner British Lotteries certified (nutcase) winner?????

You ugly sleezbag of an avatar Yeuch, sorry Heinz I prefer the big kindly silverback....

If you are a little weary about plugins and codecs download an iso of linux mint which is ubuntu with ALL the codecs and drivers and Java etc...

[Meanz Beanz]

You no like my porn shop owner?

[Meanz Beanz]

What about mutant ninja grandpa turtle?

[masalai]

Peace brother....Here use my bong......

[the1much]

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin

One should absorb the colour of life, but one should never remember its details. Details are always vulgar.
- Oscar Wilde

Marriage is a great institution, but I'm not ready for an institution yet.
- Mae West

[Manie B]

Life
is a journey
the further i travel
the less i know

"confucious"

just realised i know fu3kall he he he
been around the bloody block so many times cant remember anymore

[the1much]

i didnt even remember i was suppose to be going round the block,,,,,been standing at this corner askin fer help for years,,hehe ;)

[Manie B]

oh dear that was good:D
been standing at this corner askin fer help for years

[Meanz Beanz]

Confucious say...

"Man with appendage in cookie jar is fecking crackers"

I miss 2nd grade :D

[Manie B]

Man with d34k in peanutbutter is fu3king nuts he he hey

[the1much]

man who go to bed with itchy arse,,,wakes up with sticky fingers,,hehe ;)

[the1much]

"spots on wall" by whoflungdung
"glass underwear" by letseemore

[masalai]

man who go to sleep with problem on mind may wake up with solution in hand - anon...

[Meanz Beanz]

"Rusty bed springs" by I.P. Daily
"Babies Revenge" by Naura Titoff
"Escape From Russia" by Isa Nickenoff
"Lions Revenge" by Claude Balls

Oh for the days of childish humour.... :D when you could just be silly with our some high brow judgemental A hole peeing on your fun.

Silly is good for the soul sometimes :D

[the1much]

makes me feel like i got energy,,,,,though me and energy dont mix very wel,,hehe ;),,,,,,,,
It is a paradoxical but profoundly true and important principle of life that the most likely way to reach a goal is to be aiming not at that goal itself but at some more ambitious goal beyond it.
- Arnold Toynbee

When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
- Henny Youngman

Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom are you going to speak it to?
- Clarence Darrow

Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together....
- Carl Zwanzig

[masalai]

Get real Heinz, Join the childish revolution.... keeps the heart and soul vigorously young and the person happy. - good medicine

in the similar vein, "bum i smell, body well"
"better out than in"
"the last one by Pro Hart on the sound Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt "A little more choke and I would have started"

[the1much]

i started a new band today,,,we all have alergies ,,:(,,we headline at a local bar tomorrow nite,,should see our name in lights,,,,hehe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
"Sammy Snot and The Five Nasty Nose Pickers",,,,playing,,,,"Dig That Boogie"
hehehehe ;)

[masalai]

My wife fancies herself as a gold digger, so with a metal detector on, my nose got beeped - jeeeees I lie. - in bed sometimes - snot funny? just being juvenile.....
and bored - will delete next time I see this - in shame again....

[the1much]

My wife fancies herself as a gold digger, so with a metal detector on, my nose got beeped - jeeeees I lie. - in bed sometimes - snot funny? just being juvenile.....
and bored - will delete next time I see this - in shame again....

dlete what?,,HA,,hehe ;)

[the1much]

If life was fair, Elvis would be alive and all the impersonators would be dead.
- Johnny Carson

I would rather be a coward than brave because people hurt you when you are brave.
- EM Forster

[Manie B]

he he hey
man with di3k in custard
is fu3king discustard

stoopid hey?

gawd my cat drawings are driving me to insanity

[tinhorn]

Man, you guys need to get out more. Would this be a good time to tap your collective knowledge, skills, and wild guesses on frivolous pedal-power engineering? Myself, I have a 1925 elementary physics book, and I'm struggling with THOSE concepts.

I was gonna wait because the hull and molds are on the opposite coast, and I haven't really fleshed out my ideas, but you guys REALLY appear to need something to do! Plus it's raining and I'm stuck indoors.

[masalai]

Go ahead, its cold and 6am, I'm going back to bed for a while..... I'll be back.... around 8am..

[safewalrus]

Confused - you will be! Me, I'm totally lost!!

[the1much]

wut ta hell is physics ,,,i only made it ta 5th grade hehe ;)

[masalai]

Tinhorn, you need to get in touch with Ric W, that is his bag.... I think?

[tinhorn]

I started a Thread of Boredom.

[masalai]

Been there and left my mark, like any good dog is wont to do...... he he he

[safewalrus]

Aye twas really boring! Marked it tho!

[tinhorn]

Hahaha - it was intended as an ANTIDOTE to boredom, not an instigator of such!

Ok, back to the drawing board. But you gotta admit, it's a racy little number, no? The boat, I mean.

[the1much]

Before I got married I had six theories about bringing up children; now I have six children and no theories.
- John Wilmot

It is the dull man who is always sure, and the sure man who is always dull.
- HL Mencken

Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with.
- Bob Wells

Never give a party if you will be the most interesting person there.
- Mickey Friedman

[the1much]

Love is the delightful interval between meeting a beautiful girl and discovering that she looks like a haddock.
- John Barrymore

I write down everything I want to remember. That way, instead of spending a lot of time trying to remember what it is I wrote down, I spend the time looking for the paper I wrote it down on.
- Beryl Pfizer

After twelve years of therapy my psychiatrist said something that brought tears to my eyes. He said, 'No hablo ingles.'
- Ronnie Shakes

[Meanz Beanz]

"It's time for the human race to enter the solar system."
-George W. Bush

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."
-George W. Bush

[masalai]

That silly old shrub is a bit behind the times.... As far as I can recall, both Voyager 1 & 2 have left this little solar system and heading who knows where....... but then he never was a bright boy nor interested in the truth where it was not in his interest...

[eponodyne]

On other forums I've heard people hold up the Shrub's MBA from a good if stodgy school, and his having been a fighter pilot in the Reserves (aka Territorials) as evidence of his overweening intelligence. I've learned to gently smile and say nothing.


"The Lost Sea was the first book I wrote in English... it made me discover, for the first time, the joy of writing in this language, which is a musician's joy rather than a poet's or a painter's. It is like a superb Renaissance-built cello of amazing warmth and range...." Jan de Hartog, introduction to [i]The Call Of the Sea[i] omnibus.

[masalai]

From this distance, the shrub is sadly lacking in any merit, except a future potential as fertilizer. Geographic incompetence, random acts of stupidity, Ahhhhhh who cares.... - I don't now...

[tinhorn]

I sure appreciate hearing perspectives from outside the US. When our news stories included the latest happenings from "Reality TV" shows and American Idol, I stopped listening altogether.

And if MeanzBeanz posts any more of those eye-opening links, I'll NEVER get outdoors! Thanks, man. It feels better having an idea HOW I'm being screwed, rather than knowing something's happening, but having no idea exactly what it is.

[Meanz Beanz]

Hey Tinhorn,

Try this site http://www.financialsense.com/index.html its a great resource and they do a weekly radio show that's not high brow, great for people who want to get up to speed on what is really happening in and around the US. I have followed Jim's site since 911 and I have to say hes has been close to the money since the beginning. He manages money and if you live in the US I reckon you could do a lot worse than him for advice. My 2c... I tried to put some cash with him but he can't take it from OS.

That one should keep you busy for a while... :D

This was the first series I read from Jim...

http://www.financialsense.com/series2/perspectives2.html

If you read it keep in mind when it was written and what the world looked like then... the man has vision.

PS... When you hear the term "The Perfect Financial Storm" on bubble vision, Jim's the man that coined the phrase in 2000.

[Meanz Beanz]

If you read the Storm series and like it the next to tackle is the "Power Shift Series"

http://www.financialsense.com/series3/main.html

[masalai]

Thank you Heinz. A very good read... Sorry only tokens for the present....

[tinhorn]

Wow. That'll take me weeks!

I found this snippet tonight on that site:

SILVER PRICE MANIPULATION
by David Morgan
Precious Metals Analyst, www.silver-investor.com
May 22, 2008


...almost all of the real physical silver that is delivered to end users (primarily to industrial consumers) is accomplished by means of over-the-counter contracts known as “forwards.” This is not accomplished in the futures market!

My point is simple: If the true sale of physical silver is done in an unregulated market based upon private contracts, then what is the purpose of the futures market?

Why did the London Bullion Management Association trade nearly 30 billion ounces of silver last year?

Why did the futures and options exchanges trade almost 60 billion ounces of silver last year?

Let’s get a bit real here. If the total silver supply is roughly one billion ounces and we can measure NINETY times that amount being “traded” on the reporting exchanges, does it not beg the question why?

Further remember, there is a whole vast amount of silver “trading” going on in the OTC market that does not report at all. It could easily be as large as the reporting exchanges. Let’s be conservative here and state only 10 billion ounces of silver is dealt in the OTC market.

So when I state naked sales and can prove perhaps ONE HUNDRED TIMES the amount of silver exists on paper than exists in the physical world, you must question the logic of “hedging.” The derivatives markets are alive and well in both silver and gold, and there is roughly one hundred ounces “claimed” on paper for every physical ounce of silver.

<snip>

So in closing, I want you to think about paper silver versus real silver. Think about how much paper is flying around compared to the amount of physical silver that exists. Think about the derivatives problem we are witnessing in the mortgage markets, and ask, “Can the precious metals derivatives be far behind?”

Seems there would be different forces at play in a precious metals meltdown than in our real estate meltdown. Is the (90%) silver dollar I have hidden in my sock drawer really worth fourteen bucks? Could silver actually lose most of its value, or should I bury my silver dollar under even more socks?

[masalai]

tin, - - one must wait the advice of our "silverback sage", but my guess would be to watch carefully and sell on the high and buy it back a little later after the crash and many become desperate to cash in to meet other needs....

[tinhorn]

See, I have a bit of trouble determining the peaks and valleys. My previous investment in precious metals was buying gold at 825. In the early 80s.

[Meanz Beanz]

Silver is still cheap, should go well over the next few years, natural gas is also a good play. Real-estate will not make sense again for a while, even if we don't see a nominal price correction we will see a real price correction, even here in Oz. That simply means that there will be much safer places for money to be, I know that's a bugger of a concept for baby boomers that have seen nothing but real estate price rises during their lives here in Oz but the cycles driving this are bigger than them.... bloody ard to believe ay? Jeeze I just committed treason for my generation, all the relies will be around to lynch me soon.... the silly buggers own plenty of it but they can't tell you why it goes up in value but are quick to tell you why it won't go down :D

I'm no sage M, you know that and so do I so don't take the P !... I just listen to smart people... I gotta collect on a bet this Christmas, in 2003 I was telling a relly that Templeton had predicted that some of the US Real-estate would be selling at 10% of its current value after the bubble burst. He said he was an f... idiot, I said I'd back him as the argument was very plausible. Templeton was right, there's a surprise, an eighty year old billionaire with his own research department and a long history of good performance knows more than a middle manager in retail.... well blow me down.

Some of the scuttle around now has a strong possibility of the USD heading into an accelerated decline sooner rather than later (FSO News Hour has a good appraisal). Could be a shortish affair if other currency crack ups are anything to go by. I'd be owning anything but the USD... Everbank deposit, gold, silver, oil, beanz anything real with non debt based market. This really could get very ugly... I hope not but some peeps are very gloomy about it.

[Meanz Beanz]

See, I have a bit of trouble determining the peaks and valleys. My previous investment in precious metals was buying gold at 825. In the early 80s.

Your a bit earlier in the piece this time... if I said where I think gold is going you'd send me a straight jacket... :D People are saying +1K is a pipe dream.... they are going be spitting chips before this is over.

[the1much]

It's so much easier to suggest solutions when you don't know too much about the problem.
- Malcolm Forbes

What this country needs is more free speech worth listening to.
- Hansell B. Duckett

It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be coming up it.
- Henry Allen

[Meanz Beanz]

"Stop the world I want to get off!"

Bill Clinton

[safewalrus]

"Excuse me I'm pulling this target not pushing it!"

- unknow airplane pilot over Southern England many years ago after we'd just missed his plane by a few feet with a couple of 4.5 inch shells!! I'd have been a bit more vocal! As He did it for a living I guess he was used to it! S-H-I-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DanishBagger]

"Excuse me I'm pulling this target not pushing it!"

- unknow airplane pilot over Southern England many years ago after we'd just missed his plane by a few feet with a couple of 4.5 inch shells!! I'd have been a bit more vocal! As He did it for a living I guess he was used to it! S-H-I-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha, cool guy, that one.

[the1much]

What is youth except a man or a woman before it is ready or fit to be seen?
- Evelyn Waugh

Take everything you like seriously, except yourselves.
- Rudyard Kipling

Politicians are the same all over. They promise to build a bridge even where there is no river.
- Nikita Khrushchev

The thing that impresses me the most about America is the way parents obey their children.
- King Edward VIII

There's an old saying about those who forget history. I don't remember it, but it's good.
- Stephen Colbert

[the1much]

The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised.
- George F. Will

The town where I grew up has a zip code of E-I-E-I-O.
- Martin Mull

Most conversations are simply monologues delivered in the presence of witnesses.
- Margaret Millar

[SheetWise]

>> It takes only one drink to get me drunk. The trouble is, I can't
remember if it's the thirteenth or the fourteenth.

>>Tomorrow is often the busiest day of the week. ~Spanish Proverb


>> Torture numbers, and they'll confess to anything. ~Gregg Easterbrook

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

If it F'cks or Sails - RENT it...

Change is a foot - and I have too...

If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance - baffle them with ********...

Them be rubber numbers or ******** bumpers...

My time is all good - at least in the woods...

See http://youtube.com/watch?v=uwIGZLjugKA ...

SH.

[the1much]

Public speaking is the art of diluting a two-minute idea with a two-hour vocabulary.
- Evan Esar

Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.
- Claud Cockburn

The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been found.
- Calvin Trillin

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.
- Mark Twain

[Meanz Beanz]

"Stop the world I want to get off!"

Bill Clinton


"OK Monica, you can start the world again, I just got off"

Bill Clinton

[Meanz Beanz]

Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.
- Mark Twain

You really are a hippie!

[the1much]

Some have been thought brave because they were afraid to run away.
- Thomas Fuller

Reality is nothing but a collective hunch.
- Jane Wagner

and YA,,i REALLY am a hippie,,,,,well,,,cept fer the no bath thing,,,i take at least 3 a year hehe ;)

[masalai]

When? - It rains, It pours, so what is the third occasion?

[Meanz Beanz]

We are having a dam filling... your invited, but watch out the rain is 0.000001 c warmer than last year.

[masalai]

WOW that is hot, you got plenty of ice and whiskey?

[the1much]

If people never did silly things, nothing intelligent would ever get done.
- Ludwig Wittgenstein

You can only be young once. But you can always be immature.
- Dave Barry

Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

Democracy means government by discussion, but it is only effective if you can stop people talking.
- Clement Atlee

[Meanz Beanz]

"The bad economist sees only what immediately strikes the eye; the good economist also looks beyond. The bad economist sees only the direct consequences of a proposed course; the good economist looks also at the longer and indirect consequences. The bad economist sees only what the effect of a given policy has been or will be on one particular group; the good economist inquires also what the effect of the policy will be on all groups."

-Henry Hazlitt

[the1much]

Old age is the most unexpected of things that can happen to a man.
- Leon Trotsky

Three may keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
- Benjamin Franklin

Nobody outside of a baby carriage or a judge's chamber believes in an unprejudiced point of view.
- Lillian Hellman

Politics is perhaps the only profession for which no preparation is thought necessary.
- Robert Louis Stevenson

[Meanz Beanz]

And real estate agents....

[tinhorn]

And real estate agents....

Hahahaha! My state requires 60 hours of training to get a real estate license. Barbers, on the other hand, need over 2000.

[Meanz Beanz]

Its a grand world ain't it :D

[the1much]

i think ya should have to go to classes and pass a test to be a parent

[Meanz Beanz]

009.... licenced to breed... come here baby!

[safewalrus]

what about a 'course' to become children? intercourse probably

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

I must of been drunk when I said that I wanted to quit my bad habits...:)

SH.

[Meanz Beanz]

The chains of habit are generally too small to be felt until they are too strong to be broken. ~Samuel Johnson


Habit is habit, and not to be flung out of the window by any man, but coaxed downstairs a step at a time. ~Mark Twain


A habit is something you can do without thinking - which is why most of us have so many of them. ~Frank A. Clark


Ill habits gather by unseen degrees - As brooks make rivers, rivers run to seas. ~John Dryden, Absalom and Achitophel, 1681


Motivation is what gets you started. Habit is what keeps you going. ~Jim Ryun


Bad habits are easier to abandon today than tomorrow. ~Yiddish Proverb


The unfortunate thing about this world is that good habits are so much easier to give up than bad ones. ~Somerset Maugham

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

The serious problems in life, however, are never fully solved....

The meaning and purpose of a problem seem to lie not

in its solution, but in our working at it incessantly.

(C.G. Jung, Stages of Life, CW 8, § 771)

SH.

[Meanz Beanz]

“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” ~ Albert Einstein

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

Sorry - been out shaking 5 dollar handshakes and talking the **** with the street folk again out on the abandoned rail spur - paying it forward - when my condo falls into the sea I hope those good people remember me with a jug of water - seriously...

I am drunk - but I am happy - and I get the **** done...

As for a qoute - WORK LIKE YOUR F'IN JOB DEPENDS UPON IT ...

Fake ass lazy mothers are fake ass lazy mothers - and that is it - end of F'in list...

Old but still holds - http://youtube.com/watch?v=zykTpmCIekU - http://youtube.com/watch?v=uwIGZLjugKA&amp;feature=related ...

If all is good with you - give some back - pay it forward...

I hope you are all well...

Great qoute Beanz...

See http://youtube.com/watch?v=wzrXc68gNjQ - http://youtube.com/watch?v=8KGIf8a21bw ...

I am very tired...

SH.

[Meanz Beanz]

" WORK LIKE YOUR F'IN JOB DEPENDS UPON IT ..." LOL Love it !

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

Thank you very much Beanz...

See http://youtube.com/watch?v=0_uzwMi5NN0 - you make a movie - I am bored...

ALL IS GOOD...

SH.

[Meanz Beanz]

No wucking furries mate :D your shout!

[masalai]

HELLO ALL

Oh you mean the other sort of shout where I buy you a drink or so? OK, here it is....

[Meanz Beanz]

Your not a real Queenslander are you?

[masalai]

No I am married to an Indian princess...

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

Looks like a ten hour differance...

Cheers Masi...

Here are two bits sure to piss your gunnies off...

See http://youtube.com/watch?v=FxCNH_GoHKU&amp;feature=related ...

And http://youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk - http://youtube.com/watch?v=HkzmTsyy7WM&amp;feature=related - this will be the launch music for my Willy...

Love missile F-111...

Gah - at 38 - it even grates me now - the Willy will be christened 'SIGUE SIGUE'...

Auck you must need to relax - http://youtube.com/watch?v=fyfcNsFRu4U ...

I apologise to the world...:)

Contact a Mr. Brian Carr...

SH.

[tinhorn]

Well, that certainly raises the bar for marching bands.

[RHP]

“Do just once what others say you can't do, and you will never pay attention to their limitations again.” James Cook

“The difficult is what takes a little time; the impossible is what takes a little longer” Fridtjof Nansen

“Happy are those who dream dreams and are ready to pay the price to make them come true.” Leon J. Suenes

“The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible” Arthur C. Clarke

“What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail” Robert Schuller

“Difficulties are just things to overcome, after all.” Ernest Shackleton

[the1much]

There is still a difference between something and nothing, but it is purely geometrical and there is nothing behind the geometry.
- Martin Gardner

I used to wake up at 4 A.M. and start sneezing, sometimes for five hours. I tried to find out what sort of allergy I had but finally came to the conclusion that it must be an allergy to consciousness.
- James Thurber

If this is coffee, please bring me some tea; but if this is tea, please bring me some coffee.
- Abraham Lincoln

Nothing is impossible. Some things are just less likely than others.
- Jonathan Winters

[the1much]

I've done the calculation and your chances of winning the lottery are identical whether you play or not.
- Fran Lebowitz

Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.
- Edward R. Murrow

An economist is a man who states the obvious in terms of the incomprehensible.
- Alfred A. Knopf

Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it.
- Dan Quayle

Invention is the mother of necessity.
- Thorstein Veblen

[masalai]

Lots of "memorable quotes here http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/showthread.php?p=207613#post207613 but many may best be forgot....

[the1much]

i see all bad words,,aluminum,kayak,,and like the 2cnd post down C.O.,,already see too much,,hehe ;)

[masalai]

Sorry Jim, I didn't mean to embarrass you with bad language and intellectual insults - I was thinking that maybe some light reading from your "cut-n-paste" library of 'SHIIIIT' or graphic images of 'idiocy in action'

[the1much]

hehe ,,,they couldnt understand the C&P's or the pics,,,,without pictures,,hehe ;) ,,ya think we would all be nice and all give to a "pot" so we could buy all them idiots some "hooked on phonics" tapes,,hehe ;)

[masalai]

****, is it still groundhog day? I said this before too "You can lead a horse to water....." and them nags is too full of themselves - of whom are we talking? - I have lost the plot.... bloody groundhog day and all:D:D:D:D

[the1much]

I bought some batteries, but they weren't included.
- Steven Wright

The murals in restaurants are on par with the food in museums.
- Peter De Vries
Science may set limits to knowledge, but should not set limits to imagination.
- Bertrand Russell

Write a wise saying and your name will live forever.
- Anonymous

[the1much]

im trying to keep from working,,:the1much,,hehe

Elections are won by men and women chiefly because most people vote against somebody rather than for somebody.
- Franklin P. Adams

The only time people dislike gossip is when you gossip about them.
- Will Rogers

The only time to buy these is on a day with no 'y' in it.
- Warren Buffett

There was a time when we expected nothing of our children but obedience, as opposed to the present, when we expect everything of them but obedience.
- Anatole Broyard

[the1much]

Ethics are so annoying. I avoid them on principle.
- Darby Conley

How my achievements mock me!
- William Shakespeare

I like persons better than principles, and I like persons with no principles better than anything else in the world.
- Oscar Wilde

A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone.
- Henry David Thoreau

[the1much]

The best way out is always through.
- Robert Frost

We are continually faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems.
- John W. Gardner

There are many who dare not kill themselves for fear of what the neighbors will say.
- Cyril Connolly

Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.
- Euripides

[charmc]

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant, I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”
-Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens)

Happy Fathers Day to all you Dads out there. :)

[the1much]

thats a good!,,hehe ;)
and i heard 1 on t.v. last night,,,dont know who said it,,,but,,,," a person with great knowledge,,knows,,he doesnt know much at all"

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

When you find yourself at the end of a rope you can either turn back upon it and call that end the beginning of a repeated effort - or you can keep looking forward and grab the next rope - and just keep on swinging...:)

Ah - Sean Herron - I made that...:)

See - http://youtube.com/watch?v=TjNgkl5tuBc ...

CHEERS FOLKS...

Picking up my new truck in the morning - free Class C hitch and other...

SH.

[the1much]

good morn,,,i mean,,,good weekend sean,,,,,and merry x-mas,,,or,,happy birthday,,,or whatever special day it must be for ya to get a new truck,,hehe ;)

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

This needs to be refined...

LUMP - everyone has a lump - pushing the lump uphill against odds and sacrifice - you hit a bump - usually some fat ass lump - but you push - and you wish the lump away - then one day - they fire his fat ass - at last - and your lump goes over the top - all stops - as it rolls away - down the other side - everyone sighs - and all realize - pushing that lump was worth it after all...

Ah - Sean Herron - I made that...:)

See http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZC5ykhXDDbo ...

Also http://youtube.com/watch?v=hekGHsQFeHc ...

Ah - bit weird...

GOOD NIGHT JENNY...

SH.

[Sean Herron]

Hello..

Ford Ranger V6 x 2 - all power - hard FRP Leer lockable bed cover...

Going to buy a Force 10 SS BBQ - a 12V cooler for the XT cab with slider window...

Do some tailgates on Spanish Banks - TOMMOROW MORNING....:)

See - http://youtube.com/watch?v=uwIGZLjugKA - PLAY IT LOUD...

F'CK THAT WIDE ASS M/F WHO MADE THESE LAST FOUR YEARS ****...

A TOAST - A QOUTE - F'CK EM ALL...

Does anyone remember - 'Made In Detroit' ...

SH.