macintoshzoom
04-11-2008, 12:51 PM
The question is : Are old (1970-1980) I.O.R.-cruisers good for happy cruising on a budget?
For about 10-15000 euros, do you feel that it's a valid option a 27' racer-cruiser (more cruiser than racer) developed from an ¼ ton I.O.R. successful racer, like the danish Granada 27 or the french Jouet 26, for summer cruising in Mediterranean (light winds)?
Granada 27 Danish (500 units manufactured! plus about one hundred in Spain under license as "Noray 27": http://granada27.dk/Top/Granada27/Fotogalleri.htm , http://www.boatshop24.com/web/en/werften/s/g/granada/index.htm .
Jouet 26: http://remi.alcina.online.fr/hasard/hasard.htm
I do not like racing but I appreciate a lot the "poetry" of the pure sailing and the voyaging at sea.
I would like an X-Yachts (X-99), J/Boats (J/92S or J/100), Suspense (Archambault), or similar, all these at around 30k€, but for my tiny budget (10k€) but for my tiny budget these Granada 27 /Jouet 26 seems to suits me quite well.
My program is 3 summer cruising months, my wife and our two kids.
Are these IOR-cruisers really amusing to sail?
It appears that they have an exquisite tiller feel, as french and danish magazines says (see the pdf extracts at http://granada27.dk/English/Granada27/Facts.htm (danish) and at http://remi.alcina.online.fr/hasard/essai-voilesetvoiliers.htm (french).
It appears also that they are very tender till they reach about 30 degrees of heel, very bad in directional stability (deformed hulls!), difficult under spi in the breeze, rolling as dancers downwind and at mooring ...... but all that I can accept it if the feelings are worth, true exciting, safe and live sailing experience, which I hold to communicate to my young family.
Can anyone give ratios for this boats?
Thank you for your opinions!
(Ok also in Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, English).
If possible please send copy well to me to macintoshzoom at lavabit.com
For about 10-15000 euros, do you feel that it's a valid option a 27' racer-cruiser (more cruiser than racer) developed from an ¼ ton I.O.R. successful racer, like the danish Granada 27 or the french Jouet 26, for summer cruising in Mediterranean (light winds)?
Granada 27 Danish (500 units manufactured! plus about one hundred in Spain under license as "Noray 27": http://granada27.dk/Top/Granada27/Fotogalleri.htm , http://www.boatshop24.com/web/en/werften/s/g/granada/index.htm .
Jouet 26: http://remi.alcina.online.fr/hasard/hasard.htm
I do not like racing but I appreciate a lot the "poetry" of the pure sailing and the voyaging at sea.
I would like an X-Yachts (X-99), J/Boats (J/92S or J/100), Suspense (Archambault), or similar, all these at around 30k€, but for my tiny budget (10k€) but for my tiny budget these Granada 27 /Jouet 26 seems to suits me quite well.
My program is 3 summer cruising months, my wife and our two kids.
Are these IOR-cruisers really amusing to sail?
It appears that they have an exquisite tiller feel, as french and danish magazines says (see the pdf extracts at http://granada27.dk/English/Granada27/Facts.htm (danish) and at http://remi.alcina.online.fr/hasard/essai-voilesetvoiliers.htm (french).
It appears also that they are very tender till they reach about 30 degrees of heel, very bad in directional stability (deformed hulls!), difficult under spi in the breeze, rolling as dancers downwind and at mooring ...... but all that I can accept it if the feelings are worth, true exciting, safe and live sailing experience, which I hold to communicate to my young family.
Can anyone give ratios for this boats?
Thank you for your opinions!
(Ok also in Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, English).
If possible please send copy well to me to macintoshzoom at lavabit.com