Hull-Speed increased by Maritime Surface-Effect

[AmnonMikeCohen]

:idea: Testing the invention of Flexible Power Fins has demonstrated the Hull Speed can be significantly increased by employing the yet new Maritime Technology of Water- Lubrication based Surface-Effect under the hull of any upgraded boat or ship.
This fact is not new to this forum, where intellectual sharks and barracudas seem to be after small fry fish entering this water, but as for the mariners' favorite environment, every good smart honest fish which can help you sail faster for less costs, is important.

The inventor of this technology, does not wish to be subjected to foolish skepticism or ridicule by the few who do not add value; and unlike many other inventors with inventions we do not know who actually had invented for this industry which seems to loose more then gain by helping new technologies reach the market; this inventor is still seeking the one or few who do love the industry beyond personal and corporate selfishness or envy or simple jealousy and all the negativeness, the positive mariners, marine designers, marine investors, naval architects, yachtsmen, marine corporate executives, racing team owners and manufacturing, defense and Naval interests, shipyards and ship owners as well as shipping agents and distributors, all who can be potential partners or investors to guarantee to you as our clients that you get the real product and not a pirated one from a company or source who does not know the trade secrets of the technology, and have seen or got some information on its product or design.

Superior Hulls wants to make sure you have an insured and proper product and design for the hull of your boat, vessel, yacht, ship, and will keep its trade secrets until we can share the better news with this forum - so while hopping you may know the investor who is suitable to help us guarantee for the maritime industry an original and not inferior copy of the invention, I hope you can be our referral agent, so that you earn a fee I offer and where your watercraft can be one of the first to have a set of fins to make it fly or surf on open waters.

The advanced technology of water lubrication is yet the most advanced new news for the industry, but this is all I can write about for the honestly trusting other fish in this forum's water who may be able and willing to help; as I am willing to keep the invention in the patent office and on my prototypes if the proper opportunity does not materialize, being a successful and wise inventor who has tested the water and learned from the mistakes of previous maritime inventors.

:!: emails welcome directly also to island@islandnet.com

[Rick Willoughby]

Amnon
Hull Speed cannot be altered unless you change the waterline length of the hull in question. It is a defined speed based on the phase velocity of deep water waves having the same wavelength as the waterline length of the hull.

You would more accurately describe your idea as reduced drag for a given speed otherwise you will incur the wrath of Froude and his disciples.

Rick W.

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Dear Rick:
Froude # 0.94 1.34 & 1.12 or even 2.5 are simple true general predictions' numbers derived from tests done many years ago, and we now have so many more shapes in use and developed, that the plowing hull, its shape and where power plus loadings are all also factors beyond the knowhow of pushing a hull in water resistances a century ago when he was alive 1810-1879, hulls with similar standard shapes ships still employ; but where we have newer designs which change the signature and wave making characteristics of modern hulls which are not like the original old ones, as you can see in the attached picture here of his original wooden models named The swan and The raven, and where we have bulbous-bows and wave piercing hulls just to mention two innovations to standard plowing hulls - please accept that I am about to advance the industry again and not aiming to attract the wrath of Froude and his disciples.

My discovery based invention has a new science and facts to offer, which are only hinted to in my pictorial information and posted information on my yet private corporate website, so this older true knowhow is not relevant where water lubricated hulls are plowing plus surfing the water without the wave-making and skin plus drag resistances, and I am not trying to upset Mr. Froude or his followers,as I only hope to just enlighten them to the new advanced technologies inventors can still develop for the industry.

The Tow Tank test of the modern model we tested, showed 20.6% increased speed of a Canadian Navy Ship model you can see in the pictures, and this is for a displacement hull - and please note that the invention also makes boats and yachts fly on top of the water, as you can see them lifted out and running on the keels of the 2 demonstration boats, which are not plowing or Planning as you can expect from the standard state of the art which is known to all will do.

:idea: This is a new technology, new knowhow, and I trust that Froude would be interested to know my yet new related science.

Hope I did answer your note to me, respectfully and informatively.

[artemis]

:idea: This is a new technology, new knowhow, and I trust that Froude would be interested to know my yet new related science.

I doubt if Froude would be any more interested than Freud. Why don't you go peddle your snake oil somewhere else. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

[EStaggs]

When this is your website:

http://www.superiorhulls.com/

You should not expect any sort of investors. People will be scared away by it. Invest in some serious advertising, and be willing to go out and demo your product regularly and HONESTLY, and you just might be able to sell your patent. My wife is a web developer, I have seen companies explode once they have a way to get their information out in a clean, concise, and appealing way.

Look at Altair-Nano. They have a very snazzy website, and are still in the fishing for investors stage, but with some product shipped already to the military and their production/distribution network already assembled.

It is interesting how taking the logic behind tunnels (air compression and lift) and applying it to large underwater strakes on monohulls is such earth-shatteringly new info. I would, however, like to see the empirical data on a non-planing boat that can't rely on extremely high horsepower can get some sort of assistance from your product.

Edited: Forgot to mention that you should try to find at least one video to show in a larger format that shows a hull that isnt porpoising.

E

[Ike]

I hate to burst your bubble but I read about water being used to reduce resistance over forty years ago. This is not new technology.

[ancient kayaker]

:The inventor of this technology, does not wish to be subjected to foolish skepticism or ridicule ...


Folks, give it up, he's not going to listen, he said so.

[EStaggs]

Okay now thats funny. This thread is from Feb....

E

[ancient kayaker]

Where did everybody go? Why is it fall already?

[AmnonMikeCohen]

:) Dear Ancient Kayaker:
Thanks for reminding me that for a long time I had not visited this forum, as instead of being welcomed I was more ridiculed then respected or appreciated in my sincere hope to let members know of real important news, in improved performance, in fuel savings and with achieving higher speeds - few of the many benefits of my invention, skeptics can not accept and try to make fun of.

When one has a gift for an industry, if its users rather ignore and not support it, the loss is to the industry and its users; and while I have a flying boat and a flying SeaDoo and much more fun on water then most mariners, when I like to have fun on water, others still use what they believe is the best boating technologies manufactures and designers support and are marketing, and the industry, may stay more Ancient then advance into the future and accept realities like in my advanced technology and product line invention.

:!: Yes, it will be sad, that while they are laughing, the last laugh may be and stay mine!

[artemis]

:) ...When one has a gift for an industry, if its users rather ignore and not support it, the loss is to the industry and its users; and while I have a flying boat and a flying SeaDoo and much more fun on water then most mariners, when I like to have fun on water, others still use what they believe is the best boating technologies manufactures and designers support and are marketing, and the industry, may stay more Ancient then advance into the future and accept realities like in my advanced technology and product line invention...

And we shall continue to move forward in our ignorance and bliss, happily unaware of the great wealth and pleasure which could accrue if we had but a few dollars worth of faith in your designs.:eek: :P :p :D

[AmnonMikeCohen]

:P Your faith problem stays yours :P

[artemis]

:P Your faith problem stays yours :P
As does your problem that people will invest in your product on the faith of your word alone. :D

[ancient kayaker]

[QUOTE=AmnonMikeCohen;187232]:idea: Testing the invention of Flexible Power Fins ... Water- Lubrication based Surface-Effect ... intellectual sharks and barracudas seem to be after small fry ... The inventor of this technology, does not wish to be subjected to foolish skepticism or ridicule QUOTE]

There are lots of ideas posted in this forum, several by myself, and they all get honest opinion from some serious experts, and a lot of helpful info and suggestions for improvements besides.

There's a big difference though in your thread. Most folk with an idea start out by saying what it is and how it is supposed to work. You make a lot of of outrageous claims unsubstantiated by any verifiable facts whatsoever, and proceed to insult the very people whose good opinion and endorsement you are presumably trying to get.

I'm at least as open to the next wild and woolly idea as the next guy, but in my opinion you got what you asked for. Seriously, just read your first post again and try to imagine how you would respond to it. I have no prior position to defend in boat design and I do not make my money in boatbuilding but I love all things to do with boats so this is as close as you can get to an honest independent opinion.

So here's the challenge: show us what you got or go away. I suspect most of the contributors have already unsubscribed this thread, but I will hang on there for a while on the off-chance that you really have something to offer and just started off on the wrong foot.

[AmnonMikeCohen]

:!: You keep making assumptions and put forth conditions without understanding that it is not my word or outrageous claims that I have tried to share with the members and readership of this forum - as you must realize also that I can not get any manufacturer or investor or partner to look or advance any money or any help or sound and proper proposal for my consideration, just on the words or claims I have posted at my website or shared with this membership - you must know that no investor or manufacturer is so stupid to extend blind trust, so it is the proof and demonstration which are what I can deliver to the proper qualified, capable and willing manufacturer or shipyard or major client which is/are needed for taking my project to the industry.

So can you and others simply and please stop bothering me with mistrust and suggestions that I may be fooling myself or trying to fool anyone, as I have already stated, the loss is mine and for the industry, that for more then 10 years I had been ignored by the industry thinking I will try to follow the business mistakes others have and still do for fame or greed or even ego - please note, I am happy with my advanced knowhow and flying on water when I want to as well as my money in the bank and quality of life - and I am sad the industry is such that there may be only very few who may help it grow and advance by respecting and recognizing new knowhow that is not on the market or in use and is not yet developed, and I have not yet found the one who can be more then curious or intrigued or make me an offer I simply must refuse, as it has been over the more then 10 years.
With background in real estate Developments and Investments, I prefer honorable and accountable good business, and no foolishness or exploitations.

So please, respect my privacy and better quality of life, and do not continue bothering me with negative emails and non productive discussion about new knowhow you think is already old.

Thanks for the simple respect I am asking for.

[masalai]

Amnon, I have been following your posts and threads, trying to understand what you hope to achieve here? We are mostly keen to learn stuff relating to boats and design and discuss the merits of certain innovative ideas etc...

You seem unwilling to expose your ideas to forum scrutiny, claiming new technology and the need to protect your ideas so WHY POST???

Your posts seem heavy on marketing and abuse both together do nothing for your cause, so WHY POST???

You claim a desire for your privacy to be respected and to not be bothered with negative (junk) emails, but your posts are often negative and virtually "junk", as you declare it inappropriate to release confidential information... so WHY POST???

I presume the emails are arriving because you made the email address available, so WHY POST???

[AmnonMikeCohen]

What I had posted first, was NEWS, what I see as good and positive technological news of importance to the industry, in my hope the readership will be positive and constructive and helpful in the process of delivering the Product line and the new Technology to the Maritime Industry and the millions if not billions of Mariners who care about better, safer, faster and more economic boating.

The membership responded with mostly skeptical yet basically by mud slinging (insults and challenges) and this is why all my posts and related threads are nothing more then responses to the childish foolishness I found to actually be the way people express themselves here - so I have stopped posting or hoping a long time ago, and only keep responding with respect to people who write a comment on this issue or thread, as I do respect all created people and also do remember your original comment as well as respecting your last comments on this thread.

I did not give up on this readership, and do hope some day to come here with the actual legal permission for disclosing the facts about the invention and share new product news, and this, only if I am successful in locating the yet proper needed partnership in this project - or the invention may go to the grave with me - so please note, it has been a sad experience for me and my invention among this readership, but we are happy together, and more so when I take one of my prototypes to the water and fly on top of the surface.

Many inventors had made mistakes I do not intend to do, as they failed and were not as happy with the problems in the industry making inventors unsuccessful.

However, I am staying puzzled by the way people choose negative approach more then positive approach to truths and facts - because it is not my words that people need to trust but the demonstrated facts and proofs of what my words describe, meaning, what do I gain by making empty claims if I can not deliver the facts behind my claims?!

Respectfully yours, Ami

[KnottyBuoyz]

I'd give the product a try on my 25' express cruiser. I could offer unbiased test results with photo's videos and data posted to these forums. I know it's not the partnership you're looking for but if it works, as you say it does, and the results can be presented from an unbiased third party then the naysayers my be silenced. The risk is, if it doesn't work, they'll eat you alive.

The only concern I have is the method that might be used to attach the device(s) to the boat and affects of having to remove it/them after the test.

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Thanks Rick for your offer, but it is not one person or one place where the proof is to be demonstrated, as we have done all this years ago.

I am not after winning points here, or having you second my claims or verify them to few skeptical people - they already had me for a meal anyhow... and had fun on my account already.

The problem is in commerce and patent law. An inventor can not profit prior to patent, and if a patent is issued, no capital is waiting for the project. Also, other patents with infringement can be created and capital can make use of the new or pirated invention.
If a company is already strong in the market and develops a patent, it can market it and be secure within the market. No other combination works. Money can not be made to invent, and a successful inventor needs capital to market invention, and is in very vulnerable position as I am with my project.

To answer you simply, thanks but by making you happy, I loose my rights to the invention, so it is not helpful at all and is a destructive challenge in fact.

If you like a more detailed answer, OK, just write to my email, but this forum has people who just do not want much more truth or facts from me until I can show and tell them what is it that I actually have developed.

[Stumble]

Amnon,

I am not really familure with patent law, but I do deal with it a bit in my comercial litigation practice. If you really think you have a good idea, then go see a good patent lawyer and get his advice about your idea.

First, these days a patent can be drawn up wide enough to effectively block a copy-cat from infringing on your idea, and by having a strong patent you now have valuble intelectual property that you can market to industry players on either a per boat basis, or for their entire line. Trust me if you have something revolutionary to increase performance there will be a buyer out there, since most boat manufacturers would give their eye teeth to radically improve the performance of their vessels.

The question is how much is your idea worth. A fully functional commercially ready idea that can just be dropped into an existing hull is worth a lot more than something that works but would require a significant amount of R&D to make commercially viable. But these are all questions that can only be answered after patening the idea.

If you want a referal for an attorney feel free to PM me your contact information and I can refer you to a friend of mine here in the states.

[masalai]

Stumble, I was under the delusion that once filed then the original idea is protected and can therefore be marketed openly and safely, (subject to it not infringing on other existing patents already in force), so if this fellow has filed for a patent - even if documentation, (research to verify originality and no other conflicting patents by the patent office?), is not complete and verified as the only original claim up to the date filed he is "safe" from patent applications for something similar after that date so the "filing date and region", - world or just USA/Canada is the key factor beside originality of the idea which is patentable...?

[Ad Hoc]

I hate to wade in on this, but anceint kayaker said it all. Show us the figures/data etc then it can be reviewed. But for some reason you continue with words, rather than facts.
If you supplied facts and figures, as others are asking, then you would be taken more seriously and given "respect" that you feel you deserve.

Pons and fleishman come to mind...

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Stumble, you seem to be more familiar with patent law then most people, and as a commercial litigation practitioner, I like to point to you about the problem after a patent has shown success at the market place, which is what I am ready for, in my strategic business development which seems to frustrate the readership here while I must continue in protecting my future partners and clients.

I have applied for a patent in 1991, and am first to invent, first to apply as well as first not to publish, and was working with the advice of my original patent lawyer.
If my patent was issued 17 years ago, I would have now 3 years left, and none of the investors I had shared information with were concerned about the patent being issued, and liked the ideas we shall have the full 20 years as soon as we start.

While I understand that a better patent is drawn to be as simple as possible, like one simple sentence no one can infringe upon - I am very open to any and all better advice to have a new application which will effectively block any copy-cat from infringing on my discovery and its initial invention.
Please note, that I found I can infringe on my own as well as on many other existing patents, by the allowable improvements or locating mistakes in the original specifications or disclosure; so while as you suggest that first having a strong patent can be valuable intellectual property to help me find capital or partners, in fact the problem is our financial strength and strategy plus unity to protect our Commercial Project! This is an issue I think you know about also and more so, as it keeps you with workload...

Yes, I do have something revolutionary to increase performance and safety plus economy, and I have talked with several serious and many prospecting potential investors - yet you are wrong to think that most boat manufacturers would work with an inventor or an invention they can not own; and as I found in the real world in more then ten years, they will not give their eye teeth to radically improve the performance of their vessels, and think in very traditional and skeptical ways, while fighting to keep and develop market share in this very competitive industry.

There is no R&D needed, and the project is Market Ready, and I even have some stock ready for installation and even have/had about 80 orders already, and in fact it is worth a lot and is known to be very commercially viable. There is a new science related to the more advanced knowhow I own, and it is part of our planed leadership in the industry as we know there will be copies and competition by envious interests, but these same people are not contacting me for being in the driver seat and seem to like to follow where we may lead the industry...

:!: So please note, YES, I like to have your referral for an attorney who is wise and capable of helping our effectively blocking any copy-cats or pirates or reverse-engineers we know will come after us...

:) Thank you for your supportive and understanding way and actual help offered.

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Investors or Partners have this first right, not the public

I hate to wade in on this, but anceint kayaker said it all. Show us the figures/data etc then it can be reviewed. But for some reason you continue with words, rather than facts.

:!: The pictures I have supplied that you can see, including the one with all my communications, ARE FACTS, the words are only answers to the blablabla I keep getting here and deal with. I was originally hoping for constructive help and not destructive comments, and I am not seeking respect here, but I like to keep being respectful of all people who read these comments at this thread...

If you supplied facts and figures, as others are asking, then you would be taken more seriously and given "respect" that you feel you deserve.

Pons and fleishman come to mind...

[AmnonMikeCohen]

YES, Masalai You are correct in your comment in the era of First to Invent and First to File Patent Laws, and there is more when it is in the Global Maritime Industry which goes well beyond north American markets, as I have answered our member Stumble, which is related to the actual needed Commercial PROTECTION, and there are few ways to achieve the Commercial Protection, by Patent Insurance, Financial Strength and Strategic Business Plan, all of which are part of my project - as low-risk taking honest businessmen must be much smarter and much more careful in business.

Stumble, I was under the delusion that once filed then the original idea is protected and can therefore be marketed openly and safely, (subject to it not infringing on other existing patents already in force), so if this fellow has filed for a patent - even if documentation, (research to verify originality and no other conflicting patents by the patent office?), is not complete and verified as the only original claim up to the date filed he is "safe" from patent applications for something similar after that date so the "filing date and region", - world or just USA/Canada is the key factor beside originality of the idea which is patentable...?

[daiquiri]

Amnon, I'd just like to know the following. You claim that your idea has been verified and tested. Actually, you said that you have some of your devices ready for installation and delivery.
It means that you can answer these questions without endangering your intellectual property rights:
1) is your invention related to some innovative hull form, propulsion, energy source, structural materials or a combination of these?
2) what improvements have you recorded during your tests - is it boat's maximum velocity, range, fuel consumption, seakeeping or a combination of these?
3) can you quantify the improvements recorded - i.e. the percentual increase in speed, or decrease in fuel consumption, or decrease in the emission of poluting gases, or else?
4) can you quantify, even approximately, the cost for the production of your device?

As you can see, I'm asking you things which doesn't require a disclosure of any physical principle or constructive details of your invention - so there is no possibility for your idea to be copied by someone, and you are also safe from any risks related to patent infringements.

[Ad Hoc]

Anon
The pictures are indeed pictures, not sure of the point...???. So it seems your definition of facts is rather different to the rest of us here commenting. A picture does not give me quantitative or even qualitative "information", it is just a one shot image of "something". A picture of something odd flying doesn't instantly mean it is a UFO because a picture exists!

[eponodyne]

Advanced Manufacturing by "Superior Hulls Inc." and its shelved companies "Superior Products" is under our "USWEATT Technologies" Division, the developer of the simple robot and its universally intelligent and automated Nomadic Manufacturing In-Cell plants of our special performance flying sail and powerboat design. This is a planed Flying boats line RIB with some business options still open.What the tapdancing ham sandwich are you talking about here?

Either you're ADD like crazy, or you paid like no attention at all in English class, or you're a snake-oil salesman who learned English by corespondence course.

Either way, either bring your idea forward for peer review, or quit being such a tool. Your choice.

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Amnon,

If you want a referal for an attorney feel free to PM me your contact information and I can refer you to a friend of mine here in the states.

:!: YES was my answer, yet you have not shared with me this referral you have suggested, so it may be you have not yet seen my reply or did not see my YES at the end of my reply which was addressing all your massage to me.

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Anon
The pictures are indeed pictures, not sure of the point...???. So it seems your definition of facts is rather different to the rest of us here commenting. A picture does not give me quantitative or even qualitative "information", it is just a one shot image of "something". A picture of something odd flying doesn't instantly mean it is a UFO because a picture exists!

:!: The point the pictures demonstrate are of a boat flying by marine propulsion and not by aviation propulsion methods seaplanes employ. What many call flying-boats are actually Seaplanes and not boats.

:idea: You are not looking at Artistic or Science Fiction pictures, but at real pictures of a bot without wake which does not plow through the water but is lifted by the invented fins to fly on top of the water.

[StianM]

You are not looking at Artistic or Science Fiction pictures, but at real pictures of a bot without wake which does not plow through the water but is lifted by the invented fins to fly on top of the water.

To be honest I have no idea what I see in those pictures.
it could be a drawing on a napkin for all I know since it's so tiny and bad quality.

I could easily reproduce those pictures.
1. run a boat at 20kn and have my girlfriend take a picture of me driving by the beach with her 5 year old camera phone.
2. run the same boat at 30kn having my picture taken with the same crap camera.

Sometime people come with a bible on my door telling me about internal life and so on while holding the prof in the hand. My 89yo grandmother only wanted to be left to rest and I gues myself will the same one day so I rather rotten than suffer a internal life and a 2000yo story book is not considered prof for me so I ask them to get lost.
What I do believe in is electricity since I felt the 230vac quite good here the other day, no way denying that.

So why do I start talking this nonsense? Did anyone feel enlighten by reading my post? Can't be worse than any other post in this thread can it?

[AmnonMikeCohen]

Here are my answers, added into your original questions
Amnon, I'd just like to know the following. You claim that your idea has been verified and tested. Actually, you said that you have some of your devices ready for installation and delivery.
It means that you can answer these questions without endangering your intellectual property rights:
1) is your invention related to some innovative hull form, propulsion, energy source, structural materials or a combination of these?
:idea: The invention is a new science, and it includes a new advanced hull form, but the larger market is its FINS add-on product line to all existing watercrafts. While its benefits are improved performance and economy and few more commercial benefits, it is not a new propulsion or energy or powering or material, but is a structural addition and newer design.
2) what improvements have you recorded during your tests - is it boat's maximum velocity, range, fuel consumption, seakeeping or a combination of these?
:idea: In a tow-tank test, we found 20.6% increased speed for a displacement ship, and on open water we have found 7% increased speed for planning Hulls; both have improved sea-keeping and performance plus economic gains, and at my website I list 10 (http://www.SuperiorHulls.com/SafeBenefits.html) of the main commercial benefits the invention adds to a watercraft.
3) can you quantify the improvements recorded - i.e. the percentual increase in speed, or decrease in fuel consumption, or decrease in the emission of poluting gases, or else?
:idea: Please see prior answers, and yes, there are more options in the design as to the beneficial ecologic advantages of the invention by way of improving the aquatic environment and reducing the negative impacts of existing boating. I did not add these to my website, as investors and partners are seldom interested in these positive benefits but are concerned with any negative impacts of new inventions they invest in.
4) can you quantify, even approximately, the cost for the production of your device?
:idea: I have posted price-range (http://www.superiorhulls.com/Ordering.html) of product for consumers, and my business plan shows how production can be made very profitable by employing sub-contractors' manufacturing capabilities, as well as share good profit with our licensed installers worldwide, while delivering very good value to the consumer and improving the value of the upgraded watercraft. My answer here is still general as this financial and strategic information are part of our confidential information.

As you can see, I'm asking you things which doesn't require a disclosure of any physical principle or constructive details of your invention - so there is no possibility for your idea to be copied by someone, and you are also safe from any risks related to patent infringements.

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[AmnonMikeCohen]

To be honest I have no idea what I see in those pictures.
it could be a drawing on a napkin for all I know since it's so tiny and bad quality.

I could easily reproduce those pictures.
1. run a boat at 20kn and have my girlfriend take a picture of me driving by the beach with her 5 year old camera phone.
2. run the same boat at 30kn having my picture taken with the same crap camera.

Sometime people come with a bible on my door telling me about internal life and so on while holding the prof in the hand. My 89yo grandmother only wanted to be left to rest and I gues myself will the same one day so I rather rotten than suffer a internal life and a 2000yo story book is not considered prof for me so I ask them to get lost.
What I do believe in is electricity since I felt the 230vac quite good here the other day, no way denying that.

So why do I start talking this nonsense? Did anyone feel enlighten by reading my post? Can't be worse than any other post in this thread can it?

But my sought investor or partner will have the experience of flying and to be a believer in what I show in pictures you think you can produce and my words I assume you can not believe in or see as truth.
It is true, that many here have such less happy life then I have, as an honest and successful inventor and as a good human-being - and this has caused me some sorrow in the past, but I am not expecting much trust from this readership, although I can think of 3 good replies from more then 30 bad ones, as well as hundreds or thousands of readers who never even seen or never bothered to share what they think about new advanced technologies in such old industry which claims it has already developed all that can be developed.

I hope your recovery from the shock has made you stronger and more careful, as it is not much fun and can actually kill - so you know, you are lucky, and hope you have thanked your creator...

[StianM]

and hope you have thanked your creator...
I thanked my mom and dad many times. They could after all just let me become a wet stain on the sheets.

But back to your GREAT invention.
Air filled rubber tires did not use 10 years from experimental stage and into comercial use even the benefitt from solid rubber was not as great as your claimed benefits ower regular boats, but your still strugling alone with it.

For me and other it apear your selling snake oil and for good reasons.
There is some talk about fins and water lubrication but to my knowledge both foils and lubrication by air and water is done 1/2 century ago.

To be quite honest I would recomend any investor of puting he's money in a swiss or cayman bank long befour investing in your project and I would no feel sorry for you a single second.

You provide no info with value and you then go and call everybody else idiots for not beliving in you.

I got a diesel engine in my garadge that have 60% efficency and I will lett you my friend have it for only 100000USD. it has some now cylinder coating tecnolegy and you have my word for it that it works. I can prove it by showing you a picture of a old cummings.

[Ad Hoc]

"...by marine propulsion .."
So you mean by a propeller or waterjet of sorts?

"....but is lifted by the invented fins to fly on top of the water.."
Ahh...so it is a foil assisted vessel.

[StianM]

"....but is lifted by the invented fins to fly on top of the water.."
Ahh...so it is a foil assisted vessel.

http://www.badger.ru/picture/Pict_2_4_bg3.jpg

I did see some tests a few years ago in a boat magazine here.
It did not work weel on full speed since the foil lost the low preshure over the foil once it came too close to the surface.

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StianM

Yes, foils work best at a constant depth. Smaller vessel especially monohulls this is hard to 'control', hence the claims on larger more 'stable' vessels do not translate well. On smaller catamarans though it is fine, but the foil needs to be deeper than normal (which can be a show stopper on small vessels), as on a vessel i know in the US works very well with foil assistance.

[masalai]

Or do the foils behave like wings and the vessel floats on air (like a plane) in surface effect mode?

[StianM]

StianM

Yes, foils work best at a constant depth. Smaller vessel especially monohulls this is hard to 'control', hence the claims on larger more 'stable' vessels do not translate well. On smaller catamarans though it is fine, but the foil needs to be deeper than normal (which can be a show stopper on small vessels), as on a vessel i know in the US works very well with foil assistance.

I think they experienced a bumpy ride. boat was lifted by the foil and once up the pressure over the foil is lost and it sinks, builds up and rise and so on. Could probably work well if microprocessor controlled so the pitch is reduced when pressure over the foil rise.

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"...boat was lifted by the foil and once up the pressure over the foil is lost and it sinks.."
That's why i was saying to prevent this, the foil needs to be deeper than 'usual' when static. Not everyone can accommodate this compromise.

[apex1]

But my sought investor or partner will have the experience of flying and to be a believer in what I show in pictures you think you can produce and my words I assume you can not believe in or see as truth.
It is true, that many here have such less happy life then I have, as an honest and successful inventor and as a good human-being - and this has caused me some sorrow in the past, but I am not expecting much trust from this readership, although I can think of 3 good replies from more then 30 bad ones, as well as hundreds or thousands of readers who never even seen or never bothered to share what they think about new advanced technologies in such old industry which claims it has already developed all that can be developed.

I hope your recovery from the shock has made you stronger and more careful, as it is not much fun and can actually kill - so you know, you are lucky, and hope you have thanked your creator...

Congratulations Mr. President! (of the superior hulls inc.):D :D :D
it is always nice to hear that someone has a good life. Especially if he otherwise has nothing to provide than talking in platitudes.:P