Boats Are For Idiots

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

Lets face it - apart from the Joe going out to catch some fish to feed his family and sell off any surplus to buy goodies only available via cash - to his children - what we do is a luxury item...

Boats are for idiots - the people who design same for people who do not fish - are idiots - I am an idiot - I am humble - and I admit it - idiot ryhmes with idiot...

I like being apart of an arrogant sector of this society who sees boats as more than a means of sustanance - and I am good at same - I like feeling apart of the highly evolved who at any moment are about to get taken out by a fully laden gravel truck...

Where is that gravel truck...

I grow tired of the Starbuck Latte - sucking pukes - who just awakened to sea honoured design bits...

Go D/L - Siouxsie and the Banshees - 'The Killing Jar' or 'Cities in the Dust'...

I am a very happy person...

SH

[Petros]

Sean,

Of all the things you might waste your otherwise valuable time with, there are few things I have found that are better for wasting your time than with boats.

You see I think that the reason is because you can spend a lot of time, money, effort, emotional energy, etc., on messing with boats and actually feel like your are doing something useful.

Now tell me, how many complete wastes of times can you do and actually feel like you are accomplishing something? Usually after you waste a lot of time you have only disgusted yourself again with all that non-productive time you could have spent enjoying yourself, skiing or loafing, or spending with your family, or earning money or something. You see with boats you do not have to feel disgusted, you can fool yourself into actually thinking you have accomplished something useful. Even if you spent most of the time talking at the docks about what your are accomplishing on your boat, it does not matter, you spent the time messing about with boats.

I think that is one of the most valuable things that boats have to offer the recreational boater.

What is so idiotic about that?

[westlawn5554X]

I built my boat for real reality need... to survey, to have sex... and to plan for future trips... sea or river... although I have some commercial load for some boat that earn me money... boat is a beauty in the eyes of the beholder... really even old boat trigger good memories... chao...

[ted655]

:P I "bought my boat so I would have to stop pissing my money away at bars!
Boats are like pets, once you are fool enough to get one, you are judged by society at a number of levels. The type, the size, the condition, the attention you pay it, even the name., BUT... we become people who are admired and envied, loved and respected. Plus we live longer and are more well adjusted. We are validated. I ALSO... I don't need organized religion to understand my purpose in life. It is to keep my boat afloat !

[Petros]

well I would never advise anyone to fall in love with anything that can not love you back, neither would I worship a boat (idolatry? or is boatlatry?).

Both will leave you very disappointed.

So the question is are we really idiots, or just crazy. I know a lot of smart boat owners, so it MUST be crazy. An irrational desire to waste time and money on something that has no useful purpose. Kind of like drinking, gambling or drugs I guess, but I do not know since I never participated in any of that. Perhaps because I built my first boat when I was ten years old, and have not stop building them since.

Humm, that does not sound good, may be I will stop thinking about it so much now.

[Loveofsea]

How else do you get to all of those incredible places??

For me owning a boat is all about getting out on the open sea and running as far as you can, spending days and nights in blissful desolation anchored at the most remote places you can get to...

There is nothing like the feeling of utter security on a tumultuous sea~!

[Wynand N]

Boats are for idiots - the people who design same for people who do not fish - are idiots - I am an idiot - I am humble - and I admit it - idiot ryhmes with idiot...

gentlemen, looks like we are all in the same boat;)

[Loveofsea]

Here in Southern California we have several offshore islands and banks. When i was a kid i became fascinated with all those distant places, particularily the Cortes bank. The Cortes is a submerged mountain top that resides a hundred miles off the southern coast. There is an incredible kelp forest out there in the middle of nowhere and it is a wild place to be!

I needed a way to get out there so i designed and built the good skiff. My garage is very small, so i needed a boat that was small enough to fit, yet capable of running offshore for days at a time. I looked at dozens of manufacturers and boat plans and i found sweet NOTHING anywhere that would suit my needs.

Therein lies the beauty of designing and building your own boat! You end up with EXACTLY what you want. Since '91 i have logged over 60,000nm, been through 5 new outboards and have been able to live this incredible lifestyle.

i've been out to that bank 30 times and have spent 29 nights anchored in blissful desolation...

I'm not wholesale knocking commercially manufactured boats, i'm just saying that for some of us they fall to deliver the unique capabilities that make solo offshore adventures possible.

Build you own, don't settle for what you can buy~

[ted655]

Probably.... Say, 50 & certainly no more than 100 types of boats would serve all the needs of mankind.
Yet we continue to design the same boats, over & over. Maybe it's time to freeze boat design.
There would be a committee formed & anyone needing a different type of boat would plead their case & show need to the committee.:cool:

[the1much]

i drather have a boat then swim ;)

[Loveofsea]

Idiot is not an appropriate term, but there has to be a word for all those who actually have a boat but do not use it to it's full potential!

What would you call them????

:)

[the1much]

elderly

[westlawn5554X]

then I am a full idiot already... ;)

[the1much]

i dont even have a boat,,,,,whats that make me?,,,,,never mind i know,,,,WET ;)

[ted655]

i dont even have a boat,,,,,whats that make me?,,,,,never mind i know,,,,WET ;)
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No, pitiful, just pitiful.:P

[Petros]

Idiot is not an appropriate term, but there has to be a word for all those who actually have a boat but do not use it to it's full potential!

What would you call them????

:)

a half-wit

(related to the nit-wit)

[Capt Mike]

New guy here

I think people who go out and fish for so called fun are idiots, what is so fun about sitting there with a string in the water waiting on a fish to bite. I just don't get it, I would have more fun building something or just working on my woody for hours and hours for. What you don't see how that is fun.

Thank God not everyone hates fishing because I love to eat fish

http://www.bigwoodenboat.com

[the1much]

its fun cause the wifey's cant get to ya,,and ya can say your cell didnt have service ;)

[Capt Mike]

I don't have a wife no women will put up living on a old wood boat and me work on it all the time. or maybe they just wont put up with me

[the1much]

well see,,,,,you have your way of "keepin em away" fishing is the excuse after all the work that could possibly be done is done with that old wooden boat ;)

[Loveofsea]

I've been called an idiot!

http://www.towsurfingadventures.com/cortesgallery.php?p=1&d=1

Note the shiny surface just infront of the surfer. That is the result of turbulence coming off a shipwreck...

That shipwreck is one of my favorite camping destinations~

I've spent 29 nights anchored on that bank and over 20 of them were within 50 ft of where that surfer is~

:)

[Brent Swain]

Living on my boat has allowed me to be semi retired since my twenties ,debt free. I've worked a month a year since 1976. The cutting of living costs has allowed me to spend the rest of the year on play time. Sure glad I'm not sane like all those people on the consumer treadmill.I lay in bed every morning and listen to the traffic report to to stay informed on what I'm missing.
37 Years ago I became a sailor so I could get laid, and I aint quitting til I do.
Brent

[Frosty]

Im an idiot --and a half whit apparantly. But I just cant stop myself. I sell a boat and swear that I will never buy another.

I tell ya,--- I have got the Boat trader magazine before the money is in the bank. I say to myself oh im only looking. What idiot would beleive an idiot,--- and a half whitted one at that?

I like to see the water sploshing on the boat ---I like sploshing water,--its nice.

[Sean Herron]

Hello...

Swain wins this one - end the posts...

Sploshing is a good word is it not...

Swain is a S.O.B....:)

I am going to go wake up my passed out on red wine wife - just now - out of spite - who looks like Lynda Carter - and get laid - so there - go sail your boat - you S.O.B...:)

SH.

[Capt Mike]

Don't have a wife to piss off but I do have a few photos from the past summer

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[Sean Herron]

Hello...

YOU THINK THAT'S FUNNY...

I think you are sticking it to me - you mother - they are your sisters best friends - hell - why not - what is wrong with that...:)

Just now - I am going to go geek and do a cutout of Veronika Zemanova to put onto the 'ISLAND OF SEAN '- the island - that is in my mind...:)

Who is that little wank looking for his bit of string...:)

I do HAVE A FLAG...

See http://youtube.com/watch?v=UTduy7Qkvk8 ...

SH.

[the1much]

o.k,,,,maybe we're getting TOO much info :P

[the1much]

hehe,,,im the pervert on shore with my telephoto ZOOM lens hehehe ;)

[Capt Mike]

No kin, we have this sand bar in the lake that all the small boats pull up onto an get out and stand in the water. We call it two foot. if I get there early enough I can pull my boat up close on the front I will be on the sand on the back it is 15 feet deep. I have to stay on the boat because I will have a hundred people or more on the boat. the first time I got off the boat I had been the water for about five minuets or less and miss Georgia and some of her friends were climbing on to my boat. sometimes I will make frozen shooters and throw them off the boat.


This is a big page it will take some time to load it is my LOG on what we did last summer

http://web.mac.com/tanyard/Site_6/two_foot.html

http://web.mac.com/tanyard/Site_6/pacemakerboat.com/Entries/2007/12/2_My_log.html#comment_layer

http://www.bigwoodenboat.com

[westlawn5554X]

Mmmm ... maybe need new alternative treatment guys...:D

click picture for immediate cure...:D :D :D

[Capt Mike]

Not on my boat

[the1much]

does that change the meaning of "space PROBE",,,,,im confused,,and feel VERY violated :(
i'm gonna go sell my neighbors boat

[Frosty]

You guys looking at pictures of women again? Tut,tut,tut ,---get yourself outdoors , go breath some fresh air, careful now don't trip over the computer wires

Man can not live by bread alone.

[the1much]

i only have pictures :( i hhave 3 kids ( 2 girls 3+5) and a wifey thing,,and so old i cant "catch" the "real" fish any more :(

[westlawn5554X]

Ahhh... family life is splendure in disguse for manly lost of right in exchange for responsible interfamily slavery..... err... I think...:D

[westlawn5554X]

One of my family member...

see

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cJueekvhRDI&feature=related

[the1much]

hmmmmm,,,,my wifey has the same picture on our wall,,,but hers seems to be different,,,,,ohhhh,,thats it,,,hers has a WOMAN in the chair!!!!
i think someones messin with my head :confused:
are you sure thats only 1 of ya family members? hehe

[Brent Swain]

All wives look like Lynda Carter; initially .Boy can that change quickly. When I see what such lucky guys end up with, boy do I feel smug. Great to be called a loser when you see what prizes the winners end up with.
Makes single handing look much better Just me and Palmela Anderson. Doesn't get much bettter.
Brent

[Tumblehome32]

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No, pitiful, just pitiful.:P

And wealthier!

[the1much]

All wives look like Lynda Carter; initially .
Brent

um,,,,im thinking i musta missed me and the wifeys "initial" meeting :confused:

[Brent Swain]

There are plenty of "Idiots " anchored in peaceful anchorages sipping their morning coffee as we speak, thinking about all the smart people gasping in smog filled traffic lineups, while letting the little head do all the thinking for the big one..
What keeps many aspiring cruisers from joining them is the misconception that they must have expensive "Trendy " gear before they can leave the dock. I took my first boat for it's first sail using manilla sheets with eye bolts for leads, kerosene lamps, neo electrics etc.. Pain in the ass. How long does it take to change sheets and shackle on blocks when the opportunity arrives . Meanwhile I was sailing. A longshoreman uncle gave me an armload of black iron turnbuckles . How long does it take to change them when the opportunity arrives . Sail with what you have or can afford. Make improvements as you cruise. Concetrate on things that can't be changed later and, with gear that can be easily changed , use whatever you can get your hands on and get your ass off the treadmill ASAP. Dont buy the consumerism line. As I mention in my book , you can judge the value of advice by looking at what it has done for the person offering it. If he has taken decades and mega bucks to get off the treadmill, then following his advice will probably get you the same results,and take as long.
Brent

[the1much]

i figure its easier by the sounds of it ta jus shake my head and laugh at everybody. and by brents comment,,,me spending my money here sounds easier,(and before ya holla bout being easy aint right or so on brent, remember why you aint row'n,,,,cause sailing is easier ;) ) and me spending my money on other things then boats,,,( oh,, like the tools i buy instead,,,to work on boats ) makes me,,,,um,,,an idiot??? hahaha ;)
and hey,,i dont fall into that "co--n-,suu-mer,-" ( sorry couldnt sound out dat big werd) i "stick it to" the "man",,,i only shower once a month,,my water bill went down 3 whole dolla's ;)

[Brent Swain]

An old Chinese proverb said" A man is like a bicycle. As long as he is moving toward something he is stable . Stop and he falls over.
This explains why some people get bored out of their tree crusing the tropics. A man without a project is a man without a life.
My sister once said "I have the putter gene." I said " Most people have the putter gene ,in one form or another , but many just don't realise it."
Tools not only solve the problem , but can be a source of cruising funds as well. It's surprising how many cruisers wouldn't know how to make a plug for a dog's ass ,even if their lives depended on it.
I really missed the projects when I was in the tropics. I have an alternator rigged as a welder, chinese generator and basic metal working tools , enabling me to make any fitting I or others need.
Comming home from Tonga , when I hit 38 degrees north, the sea flattened and it got cool enough to work , out came the tools and I began to have the first real "Patience my ass, I'm gonna build something" fix in a long time . Felt like I'd died and gone to heaven.
Pitiful is a word we in the free world use to decribe those who are on the treadmill and hate it.
Brent

[Wynand N]

A man without a project is a man without a life.
Brent

Welcome back Brent.

Get yourself a new project and start cracking. I have just started one myself and all sanity returned - just like a miracle:cool:

[the1much]

my sister told me i ate too many potatoes ;) ,,i dont like moving very much,,takes more energy then its worth,wasted time i could use daydreamin bout "wonder woman" hehe
and that "chinese" dude neva seen a stationary bike,,,poor dude :(
hehe,,,maybe i just wish i didnt "have" to move,,maybe im dreaming now,,maybe wonder woman is--------(be right back have some "paper work" ta get to)
;)
and P.S. ,,,,,my king size pillowtop bed feels bout as close to heaven as i've been ;)

[safewalrus]

Oh to be an idiot.................................

[masalai]

Clarify please.... with a boat of my desires & resources to run it as long as I desire. Your wish is relatively easy to get & probably not what you desired....

[Trevlyns]

Oh to be an idiot.................................

Ned of Wales: "Excuse me sir, are you the village idiot?"

Eccles: "No, but when he retires, I'm first in line"

[masalai]

Those Goons are still magic!!!!!!!!

[the1much]

i dont know who ned and eccles are,,,but they sound like my grandfather and father ;)

[masalai]

Top secret radio show restricted to English speakers. Played on the BBC in the days where radio performers were expected to wear coat & tie etc. "The Goon Show".

Well worth digging up for a listen - will prepare you for active participation in the drivel thread.

[Trevlyns]

Here’s a good start http://www.thegoonshow.net/

Another of my favourites…

Sound effects: Clink clink clink…

Henry Crunn: Excuse me sir, what are you doing?

Neddy: I’m tuning this piano

Henry Crunn: Oh, I see... Min, he’s tuning the piano you know

Minnie Bannister: But Henry, we don’t have a piano!

Henry Crunn: YES! That’s right modern Min. (addresses Ned) Sir, we don’t have a piano, you’re probably meant to be tuning the one next door…. [thinks] – We used to have a piano but it was stolen. What colour are the keys?

Ned: Black and white

Min and Henry: It’s ours, it’s ours!

[masalai]

Thanks trev, Much appreciated site.... Again "must spread myself around first :P:P:P Sorry no brownie points though. I tried, Honest:D

[Frosty]

My uncle Dick was a ventriliquist on the BBc radio service, back in 1955.

[masalai]

A dick that could have been seen & not heard - magnificent for radio (or is it the other way round? heard & not seen) - pity about the pay-cheque - in the post, never delivered...:D

[Trevlyns]

My uncle Dick was a ventriliquist on the BBc radio service, back in 1955.

Must have been before the advent of "voice overs" :p

[eponodyne]

Hello...



Go D/L - Siouxsie and the Banshees - 'The Killing Jar' or 'Cities in the Dust'...


Whenever I get all stressed about about the fiddly bits of the design of Bottle of Smoke, my yet-to-be-built concept for a really fast kite-powered, beachable commuter catamaran, I remember the incomparable chorus of Walk Away off Bad Religion's tour de force record Against the Grain:

Walk (walk away)
I'll lead a parade
And I'll be determined that no one should dissuade
Walk away I'll take my sweet time
And burn all the bridges that I'm leaving behind....

Mostly because I'm all punk rock like that, yo; and I gotta get into the tao of it.

[the1much]

heys,,,the other day i was sailing around the world,,,and right in the middle of the atlantic,,i,,,saw,,,,ELVIS!!,,,i tell ya,,,him and morrison was sailing an apogee 55 singing x-mas carols heh ;)

[Frosty]

Wow Ive always wanted to see Elvis, --ya didnt take any photo's by any chance did ya?

I knew he was'nt dead ,--I just knew it. When was this? Wednesday?

[westlawn5554X]

Ye heard elvis was detain in area 51 playing poker with a few alien... Indian maybe... or chinese... without passport...

[the1much]

it was tuesday,bout 3 pm. and he was playing old maid with a mexican who he picked up on the rio grande,,,, i tried getting a pic, but they kept holding up "howdy doody" masks every time :(
next time i'll get his autograph ;)

[tinhorn]

Don't have a wife to piss off but I do have a few photos from the past summer

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O-o-o-o-kay! I get it! Boat=nearly nekkid women. Didn't see any paddle boats in the good captain's slideshow, though. I may need to rethink my strategy.