Free design for amateur boatbuilders

[Alik]

Free design for amateur boatbuilders

5.9m trailerable cruising wooden sailboat

http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=samostroy&st=piligrim590

Best regards,
Alik

[Pointyendfwd]

Hi Alik,

Like the boat. The Russian is taking me some time though.

Some of the nicest lines I have seen in a long time, for a plywood boat.

I would like to know where to get the offsets for the hull panels, I'd like to build a model.

The coachroof is very nice as well, it is a hard part to get right in ply. The other boats on the site are interesting, especially the 8 meter cruiser.

[Alik]

Thanks!
We also did the model 1:10 scale, so I'll look for hull panels.

[Guest]

Very impressive and complete CAD. Do you have a render of the cabin from the bow looking back? Especally the access to the double berth under the cockpit?

MH

[Alik]

We don't have this render. The access to aft berth is seen at frame F. The seat (3) is removable.
Loft drawing in vector format will soon be available for free download at the same website.
Please, report about boats in construction, ask questions if any.

[Tim B]

Lovely boat, Alik. Could I just ask if it could be drawn a little longer at the bow, with the two sides meeting at a point? It would just drop the drag a little while going through waves. Looks very nice though, other than that (and that may just be me).

Thanks for telling us,

Tim B.

[Alik]

Thaks, Tim. It could be, of course and some builders of her make this modification to the original design. The reason we drew rounded pram bow is the limit of length. The boat is thought to be stored in standard 6m garage.

[Tim B]

I did wonder if that could be the reason. I like the boat. If I had any more money I'd be tempted to build one myself.

Cheers,

Tim B.

[Alik]

That is significant economy for off-season storage.

For those going to build this boat - ask on details and specification in English.

[Pointyendfwd]

Hi Alik,

Do you have a bill of materials for the boat, rigging details included?
Have any of these boats been built yet?
If so, how is the performance?

Thanks,

[Alik]

Hi,
We don't have bill of materials, but I can ask the builders. Several boats are in construction, none of them is already reported to be on water.

[Alik]

MATERIALS*
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Plywood total: - 26 sheets, 2.5x1.25 m
Wood: oak - 0.11 m3, pine - 0.50 m3
Epoxy resin - 50 kg;
Glass cloth - 150 m2
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*- losses included

[Guest]

I would like to know where I can find the project translated to english, it seems that the pilgrim is a nice boat but I know nothing about russian!!!
Please help
bbullet@rocketmail.com

[Alik]

OK, sending You specifications in English.

[bbullet]

Alik,
could you post any emails about people that is building the pilgrim? Or some sites?
By the way thanks for the specifications

[Guest]

Please, can you send specifications to me too.
jukka.siirila@nic.fi

Nice boat, thanks.

[Guest]

Alik,

This looks like a fine boat. However I am having trouble transulating your pages. If you could send me an english version of the specs. I am planning on starting on a boat this fall, and this book may just be it.

Thanks,

Mike

MLKress@applied1.com

[Tohbi]

alik, did you really use 50 kg of epoxy?

[ErikG]

50 kg's of Epoxi and 150 m2 of reinforcment? Sound awfully high for a plywoo boat to me.

[Alik]

Plywood we have is not specially intended for boatbuilding, more proection needeed... That is real to our expireince.

[Guest]

Uao nice design, I will send it to our discussion group, see cantierino.it - to discuss about it and to find somebody who intend to produce it more than me, but the important thing is to have specifications and dettails in english, because for us it is not easy to read russian. JAJAJAJA
thanking you in advance
regards
Rudi
post me to: rudiboaretto@yahoo.it

[Guest]

Originally posted by Pointyendfwd
Hi Alik,

Do you have a bill of materials for the boat, rigging details included?
Have any of these boats been built yet?
If so, how is the performance?

Thanks, very nice boat

[Guest]

Originally posted by Guest
very nice boat can anyboty translate this side in english

[BCboater]

Nice boat Alik.

I understand about why you want the pram bow for storage but I wonder if a removable bow fairing couldn't be made to attach for a finer entry? The nose could be attached with some bolts or some other method and would not otherwise be structural. I figure it would be roughly .5 meters long or so and would easily store in the cockpit for transport.

And thank you for sharing the design. I'm planning on giving it a lot of study this winter.

[Alik]

The idea: one can shape FRP bow block to obtain finer entry. But need to include some structural element inside this extended block...

P.S.More links on free plans:
http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=c630&st=c630_index
http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=c630&st=c630_1
that is "Cralya 630" - 6.3m FRP sportboat for amateur construction

[kalazzerx]

I also love your design and am interested in building this boat. Could you also send me your specifications and details in english.


Thank you.

Chris Anderson :)
canderso@kalazzerx.com

PS. Are the lofts available for download yet?

[ChrisGibbs]

I also like the design but an english translation would eb handy please!!

neo_kre8or@hotmail.com

Thanks

[Guest]

I would love to build your sailboat , but like many others I ca not speak Russian , any way you can send all the same info in English ? albagopaddy@earthlink.net I would really love to build her !!!!

[Guest]

I also would like an english translation, please,
awe2203@hotmail.com

[Guest]

Erik very nice boat.
is there an englis translation posted yet
would love to try this one to build
dangavel@hotmail.com

[Alik]

OK, e-mailed to everyone. Thanks for Your interest.

[Guest]

Do you have the specifications for the Crayla 630 in english as well? Both designs are very nice but I'm looking for a little more size and speed. The 630 may be just the ticket!

Thanks,
Bill Raymond

wtraymond@wi.rr.com

[Guest]

hi:
I had asked for specs in english but gave the wrong e mail add. very sorry for being a pest but could you send to
dgavel@provair.com

[Paul T.]

Nice boat! and English translation for me please! @^_^@

tridatan@hotmail.com

[DonJB]

If it is not too much trouble, could you email englsh specs to me as well?

donb@tradesalot.com

[Guest]

Hi! What an awesome boat! I'd love to be able to build this, but like everyone else it'd be a lot easier for me to have everything in english. If it's not too much trouble I'd really appreciate it! Thanks so much!

cjm21@duke.edu

[ialbertoi]

soi a Spanish citizen i me to interested much the project of this boat request that porfavor sends the instructions to me in Spanish or ingles to the email ialbertoi@terra.es a GREETING and Thank you very much

[glenna]

Could you also send me plans in english? thank you

[Alik]

Please Write Your adress or e-mail to
nazarov@yand.crimea.com
Subj: P590 Plans

[Guest]

Here is an automated translation for a first glimbse:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stugna.kiev.ua%2Findex.php%3Fpirs%3Dsamostroy%26st%3Dpiligrim590&lp=ru_en&tt=url

[cmfundaro]

Hi Alik, i like the design of the sail boat, i really want to know more about from it, but i can't translate your web page, so could you send me the project in english.

thanks

[cloudsnowing]

can i have the specification in english? thanks...

cloudsnowing@yahoo.com

[Alik]

OK, e-mailed...
Any reports on construction? Photos?
We think of making website for 'P590' and other our 'freeware' designs builders.
Thanks.

[cloudsnowing]

thank for the email.... currently i am looking at the drawing and i am planning to convert it to an aluminium boat... as I build aluminium boat all along

[cloudsnowing]

it will be great to have website for all the construction of vessel... great idea

[Chris Krumm]

Alik -

The link to the Babelfish translation posted by Guest worked well. Here it is again:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stugna.kiev.ua%2Findex.php%3Fpirs%3Dsamostroy%26st%3Dpiligrim590&lp=ru_en&tt=url

I was able to enter the "Airshed" and get pretty good english translations and all the images for the Pilgrim 590, the Krayla 630, and some other projects. Probably enough info in English to build either boat.

The Krayla 630 is one hot little boat. I understand the swept forward board from a hydrodynamic standpoint and to let the foil exit in the cockpit. But what about it being a kelpcatcher and increasing its risk as a "hook" if you were to hit a deadhead?

[Alik]

Thanks Chris,
as to me, this keel is not more kelpcatching than straight bulbkeel (with zero sweep) :) The same about deadhead.

[Guest]

Hello Alik

As many people in this forum I find the lines of the pilgrim 590 very nice. Since I also have problems with russian I would be grateful if you could send me the english version (as well as the panels developpments) at the following
Email:

totofette@yahoo.fr

As a first go in boat building I would rather go for a smaller boat like the
ÊÀÏÐÈÇ 490 (I copy/paste the name, I do not know its english name!)
Are the plans available for this model?

Thank you on advance

Best Regards

Chris

[Maurice]

Hi there ! Can you send the english plans to mdeblieck@mantum.com ?

Thanks alot

[waywardtim]

hi alik, could you please send me plans etc in english for the P590 - great looking boat,

cheers,
tim

waywardtim@hotmail.com

[Guest]

Hello

Could you send to me the plans and all the information needed to build this boat in english?

joelgrigolo@pop.com.br

Thank's

[Zaynab]

Alik,
Could you add the english translation to your web site and/or email it to me?

[noober]

I would love to have the english version of this boat. It looks like a unique design.
Thanks
tjaybe@cableaz.com

[Guest]

Hi I know that alot of people have already requested the english version of these plans, so I was wondering if one of you guys could send then my way, so that the author doesnt have to bother with ANOTHER req.

TIA

Johnathon Chihonik
jchihonik@<nospam>mbox.rrc.mb.ca

<remove the <nospam> from my email to reply>

[kayaxi]

Wow! Popular design Alik. Can I join the fun too?

dwells@triad.rr.com

Many thanks!:)

[suao]

Very nice design Alik.

Can you send me plans in English.

pedro.cardoso@autoeuropa.pt

[Mattgroot]

Dear Alik
I would also be keen for some plans of the Pilgrim 590 in English. They look great!
Regards
Matt
groots@shoal.net.au

Thank you :D

[Alik]

OK, e-mailed.
Inform us about construction, share photos.

[ialbertoi]

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[ialbertoi]

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[ialbertoi]

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[oddball]

can i have the english plans for the 590 and the ALIEN 1350
thnx

depo262@yahoo.com

[Guest]

Alik, I would be grateful if you could send me the english version of those plans,too. They are by far the most beautiful I saw so far in the web!
My email is: irakleousm@hotmail.com.
Thanks,
Mike.

[Guest]

This looks like a fantastic little boat and I would like to build it. Could you please send me the details, specification and everything else you have on it in English.
E-mail: gjventer@telkomsa.net

Thanks

Gert

[Doug D]

Would you be able to send me a copy of these plans in English?
Best Regards,
Doug D

[ARAIN]

HI ALIK I REALLY LIKE YOUR BOAT BUT I DON`T UNDERSTAND RUSSIAN .COULD YOU SEND ME THE PROYJECT IN SPANISH OR IN SECOND PLACE IN ENGLISH?

THANK YOU .

[Alik]

Specify e-mail to send, please...

[ARAIN]

SORRY ALIK, MY e-mail is jdurietz@yahoo.com
thank you again.

[Alik]

'Kavalier800' - elder sister of 'Pilgrim590' under construction.

[Alik]

More photos...

[Alik]

And more...

[gmeadows]

I am interested in building this boat. It is a very elegant design.

Can you please send ENGLISH specifications to renaissanceboatworks@juno.com

thanks

[smp_2k]

:) I Also Love the designs in ENGLISH...
Please!!!
smp

smp_2k@hotmail.com

[tlopes]

ALik,

Can you send me the english plans?

Thank you

englopes@netcabo.pt
Tiago Lopes

[Guest]

Alik

Could you please send me the plans in English.
My e-mail is gjventer@telkomsa.net

Thank you
Gert

[Guest Don, USA]

Alik, your design is truly a beauty! Have you tried your skills at a cruising catamaran? I would love to see one.

Regards, Don

[Alik]

I've designed two cruising cats - 6.5 and 15 m LOA.
Write: nydesign@yandex.ru

[Guest]

Hello Alik,

Greatings from Brazil.

In a "boat-building-newsgroup" here in Brazil, people were talking about your projects, but since most of them can only speak portuguese or english, they are not able to read the projects plans.

I would like to know if you have the plans in english, and also where can we get a list of the projects, how many projects are free, or how much they cost? Where can we see pictures of the boats...

I personally loved the piligrin590 a lot.. It 's a beatifull boat. Congratulations.

Can you give me directions about where to find the information above?

Thanks a lot,

Gutto

[Guest]

I Forgot to say that my email address is gutto@hotmail.com

Thanks

[Alik]

Thanks Gutto,
Does anyone build them in Brazil? :)
You can see out designs at www.nyd.da.ru - see English version
Now we have 3 FREE designs: CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800. Numbers indicate length in cm.
Ask questions: nydesign@yandex.ru

[Guest]

I am not sure if there are people building it right now, but I've seen some people sugesting it..., and also asking questions about the project.. I will let them know that there's this version in english now... let's see how it goes now...

Thanks for you fast reply.

Gutto

[Guest, Don USA]

Alik, I emailed you twice about your 6.5 catamaran. I don't know why it is not getting to you. I must be doing something wrong. If you would be so kind to email me with information. I'm at ball331@hotmail.com

thanks
regards, Don

[Guest]

I also would like to know where I can find the project translated to english, it seems that the pilgrim is a nice boat but I know nothing about russian!!!
Please help
thanks!
mebrkb@hotmail.com

[tspeer]

Is babelfish.com any help?

[Chris Krumm]

Try this:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stugna.kiev.ua%2Findex.php%3Fpirs%3Dsamostroy%26st%3Dpiligrim590&lp=ru_en&tt=url

Above link gets me to english translation of Pilgrim 590 art. Clicking on "Airshed" link gets me to links to construction links for Pilgrim 590 and the other 2 mentioned designs.

[steved]

Hi,

Your design of this vessel is so sweet! The flowing lines for a plywood vessel is beautiful! I have been looking to build such a boat for over 5 years but nothing has taken my fancy. Do you think you will be posting any other details of this boat in the near future. I would be happy to send you a money order if made available.

Rgds

Steve Doering
Australia:rolleyes:

[Guest]

Can i have the English plan for the Pilgrim 590.

My Email : bill_048@hotmail.com

Thanks.

[abruton]

Dear Alik

Nice Christmas card on the website. Just no links to boat plans etc at the moment.

Can you please send me the English plans for the Pilgrim 590.

andre@bruton.co.za

Andre Bruton
Johannesburg, South Africa

[windjammer]

Love your design..:)

This may be just what I am looking for.

Can you please send me plans for this great design PILGRIM 590

Thanks

[ross61]

Beautiful boat Alik. I am ready to start my second boatbuilding project and this is just what I am looking for. Can u send me the plans in english - Pilgrim 590

midxmech@yahoo.com

Thanks - Ross

[Unregistered]

Alik, Great designs!

Can you please send me plans in english for these great designs . My email is RckJoh@aol.com
Thank you and Fair Winds,
Rick
~~~_/) ~~~

[Alik]

OK, e-mailed.
Any info on P590 construction?

[Mateus]

Hi Alik, could you please send me plans etc in english for the P590 -
great looking boat.

Thank's
Mateus

[mateus]

My e-mail matevz@s5.net

[trevorthorpe]

Dear Alik
love the renderings of the boat. As an ex-boat designer and builder Ive been looking for a project for myself and my son. Ive been reading the threads but find it all quite confusing.
Could you help me with the following,a)specs in english,b)table of offsets(english)
and any other info on the boat. Are any in the water yet?
My e-mail is olive.kreatif@webmail.co.za
regards
Trevor Thorpe

[L-J]

Hi Alik love your designs. they are super. could you please send me the plans in english, on your Pilgrim I just got to build one its the prettiest littel darling i have ever seen tnx
Mail to jpkrax@home.se tnx again.

[mateus]

I don't understand how to put out or in the centerboard?
Are any plans of this boat with the ballast keel?

Something like that:
http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/samostroy/sb26/kil_l.gif

Some detail:
How to put engine in storage place?

[Alik]

Hi,
First picture is not my design. In "Pilgrim590" centerboard is rotating, controlled by line. Second picture - carling is not continous.

[rgranger]

I looked at the free boat plans you posted. They look nice. I also requested an english version.

:p

[lprimina]

My wife is a translator if needed. I might have to tell her it is for me, to do it free.
Ben

[Jukka]

Thanks Gutto,
Does anyone build them in Brazil? :)
You can see out designs at www.nyd.da.ru - see English version
Now we have 3 FREE designs: CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800. Numbers indicate length in cm.
Ask questions: nydesign@yandex.ru

Nice designs, Can you send me english plans to Cralya 630 and Kavalier 800.

jukka.siirila@nic.fi

[Murilo]

Hi Alik,

Can you please send me plans in english for these great designs (Cralya630-Kavalier800).
My email is murilo_borba@yahoo.com.br

Thank´s
Murilo

[Gert Venter]

Hi Alik,

Can you please send me plans in english for the Kavalier 800

My e-mail address is gjventer@telkomsa.net

Thanks

Gert

[Latoscuro]

I, too, would like to receive the plans of your Kav 800 and minitransat projects (keel included :D ...) ...the address is Latoscuro@Hotmail.com. Thank you in advance...

[Caedric reader]

hello could you please tell me about these free plansFree design for amateur boatbuilders

5.9m trailerable cruising wooden sailboat

http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=samostroy&st=piligrim590

Best regards,
Alik

[Jef]

Hi,

This seems to be a very nice design indeed!

Would you mind sending me more infos, maybe plans or things like that, en English please?

email address: dantes<AT>vif.com

Thanks a lot
Best regards
Jef


PS: I see that you have other free designs, if you've got them available, please send them too. I'll have a close look to all of them!

[Jose]

Hello Alik:

I would like to receive the plans of the Kavalier 800 in english. My email is oftecnica@marlasl.com
Thank you very much.

Jose

[sailor66]

Hi Alik,
i fell in love with your pilgrim 5,90 design already monthes ago, but now as i really found a nice shed ro start building, i would appreciate every bit of plans and information you could send me. I´m pretty sure that she´s the first to be built in brazil.
In English please. Thanks in advance
Wolfgang

[Alik]

Hi,

Sailor66: OK, send me Your e-mail at nydesign@yandex.ru

Here is picture of KAVALIER800 (8m LOA) - bigger version of PILGRIM590 (5.9m LOA). Note the same architectire. The boat at the stage shown was built for 4 months.

[tomislav]

OK, sending You specifications in English.

CAN YOU PLEASE SEND ME SPECIFICATIONS ON ENGLISH OR EVEN BETTER ON CROATIAN. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE DRAWINGS. SHOULDN`T THERE BE SOME MORE DRAWINGS, FOR EVERY PART OF BOAT. IS IT VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD "PILGRIM 590"? IS IT HARD AND HOW MANY TIME DO YOU NEED TO BUILD THAHT BOAT. PELASE ANSWER ME ON MY E-MAIL!



Thanks, Alik!

Tomislav

[prosinečki]

Alik can you please send me some more and detail drawings for pilgrim 590. I don`t understand this drawings! I asked my Father and he told me that these are not complete drawings. Can you please tell me how much costs building pirglim590 and how much time will I need to build it my self with fathers help ofcourse! can You please answer mw on my e-mail: Tomislav1.Prosinecki@public.srce.hr

[Dave Lewis]

Could you also send me English Instructions?
Last Wooden sail boat I built was a 14 foot daysailer.
I would like to try something a little bigger.

Thanks

Dave (lewisakron@juno.com)

[Jadrija]

Beautiful boat Alik. Can u send me the plans in english - Pilgrim 590

edvin.mirojevic@inet.hr

Thanks

[lucpo]

pilgrim looks great

can you send me the plans in english please!

lucpo@swissinfo.org

[JM Belanger]

Hi Alik,

Was looking at your Cralya 630.
What about an Open 650 plan?
Super Calin, Dix Mini, Ti-Zef and Bepox's plywood plan are attractive...

JM

[RolandZ]

great boats.. i'm thinking about building a boat in the Philippines ....

i tryed to e-mail you, it didn't work...

please send me construction plans for CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 ....

r.zellweger@delight.ch

are there some more pictures of your building progress somewhere on your homepage ?

[Artur.G]

HI Alik, can you please, send me more detailed plans (drawings)in CAD, for pilgrim 590, acepted in russian.Please answer on my e-mail: arturgebarski@poczta.onet.pl
Thanks

[RVMarkus]

Hi Alik,

The Pilgrim looks great! Can a new boatbuilder make one? Has there been any report on her handling yet? I would love to get the plans in english.

Thanks!

Russell

[prosinečki]

Hi Alik!
I saw your "pilgrim 590" and I like it, but I would rater build some sport tip. I saw one in magazine and I liked it. Can you please send me specifications for that sailboat. it should be 5-6 meters long, blue color, for 2 or more people and modern. CAn you send me it in english. please send me it on my e-mail:Tomislav1.Prosinecki@public.srce.hr

P.S.: Send me some pictures of the boat please.

Tomislav

[prosinečki]

Hi Alik!

I surfed on internet for a while and I saw one pretty sailboat, MacGregor 26X. I liked it very much because I need boat to sail in it for few days. It has toilet and kitchen and 6 beds. Can you please send me drawings (plans for building, designs) of it and tell me how much it costs to build that sailboat. Please send me designs in DWG format (AutoCAD format). I would be very happy if you could help me. Please send me designs on my e-mail: Tomislav1.Prosinecki@public.srce.hr

P.S.: Send me them in English, PLEASE! :) Thanks Alik! :)

[Dandi]

Alik,

Request English version of the P590 design specifications. Thanks!

usn20@comcast.net

[Carlos Alberto]

[ QUOTE=Alik]I've projetou dois gatos cruzando - 6,5 e 15 m LOA. Escreva: [ email]nydesign@yandex.ru[/email][/QUOTE ]

Boa Noite estou interessado em seu projeto Catamaran gostaria de receber maiores informações.

Aguardo informações através e-mail: housebusines@ibest.com.br

[markm]

Hi Alik

Very impressive designs. I am in Australia. Can I request the plans for Cralya 630 Kavalier 800, my email is markm@kinsella.com.au.

regards

Mark

[rserranon]

HI Alik, I am in Mexico and want to biuld my boat, can I have a copy of the plans in CAD, for pilgrim 590. serranonroberto@hotmail.com

Thanks! :)

[rserranon]

Alik,

If possible I would love to have also the plans for KAVALIER 800 in english.

my e-mail. serranonroberto@hotmail.com

Thanks :D

[Otavio]

Muito bom o projeto Pilgrim590. Poderiam me enviar o projeto em engles
Fico muito grato se enviarem pelo e-mail adress
otaviobrito@atarde.com.br

[Bruce Newsham]

Alik,
beautiful designs. Could you send me the plans for CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 to bruce_newsham@hotmail.com . They all look suberb it will take a little research to decide which one to build.

[richstrat]

Hi Alik,

Love the designs - could you please send me the plans for the Pilgrim 590 and the Cralya 630

richstrat@yahoo.com

Cheers,

Rich

[Alexandre]

Great Design!

may you send to alexandre@galas.com.br ?

thanx!

[Shawn Zernik]

Free design for amateur boatbuilders

5.9m trailerable cruising wooden sailboat

http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=samostroy&st=piligrim590

Best regards,
Alik

I am looking to build a 16 foot boat and saw this design and love it. The other design I saw was from the 70's called Blue Moon (ref Boat Builder, Fall-Winter 1974). I was wondering if someone would have some plans on how to build the Pilgrim 590.

Shawn

[Shawn Zernik]

I am looking to build a 16 foot boat and saw this design and love it. The other design I saw was from the 70's called Blue Moon (ref Boat Builder, Fall-Winter 1974). I was wondering if someone would have some plans on how to build the Pilgrim 590.

Shawn


My email is "szernik@internetworkconsulting.net".

[szernik]

OK, e-mailed...
Any reports on construction? Photos?
We think of making website for 'P590' and other our 'freeware' designs builders.
Thanks.

I've created a template for the site located at http://www.internetworkconsulting.net/pilgrim590/template.html. Please let me know what you think of it. I'm not a huge sailor but am interested in building the craft myself. I'm going to continue working on the first few pages and translate the design article to English from the Babble Fish translation.

I don't know if you are familure with the Linux and FreeBSD open source model where other can contribute to designs and implementations. If so, I was wondering if you would be open to this idea. This could give the sailboat a life unknown. I would prefer to do FreeBSD style where others can make suggestions, and a team of qualified architects and designers would decide what is valid and includable.

In the short term my goals are to create a site that will allow the distribution of the Russian, English, and any other translations of the plans. I also want to include a list of members. The members would include those who have contributed though building the boat, the site, and it's design. The projects page will include links to work in progresses, models, and completed boats, and boats in use.

Please let me know what you think since this is ultimately your baby, Alik. I'm going to copy this message to the boatdesign.net thread Alik created.

Sincerely,
Shawn Zernik

[szernik]

Just wondering about the boats construction. Whe the hull is initially built, it is done upside down to work on the bottom first? How is a boat like this normally flipped? Do you just get like 5 people and hand flip it?

[ttb1968]

Alik,
beautiful designs. Could you please send me the plans for CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 to tudor.teodorescu@b.astral.ro . They all look suberb it will take a little research to decide which one to build.

Thank you,
Tudor

[S. Arbeláez.]

Alik,
I´m looking to construct a 18 to 20-feet sailboat,the Pilgrim 590 seems to be a very nice option, but I´m having serius difficulties with russian. Do you have some instructions in english? How can I have the plans? I´ll really appreciate your attention.
Best regards and congratulations for the design!

Santiago Arbeláez A.

33463saa@comb.es

[L.DOSSO]

it is unfair to sell plans for free

[szernik]

it is unfair to sell plans for free


Fair is relative. Free boat plans of this quality are unpresedented.

[szernik]

Free design for amateur boatbuilders

5.9m trailerable cruising wooden sailboat

http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=samostroy&st=piligrim590

Best regards,
Alik


Alik:

I have created a site with the plans and english translations. Please feel free to browse the site. If you are working on a project, let me know so I can add the information.

Shawn

[SeraphJC]

Alik,
The designs are great . Could you please send me the plans to the PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 in english to einstein_emc3@hotmail.com.

Thanks,
JC

[Claudio Seijo]

Hello

I´m Argentinian... sory for my english..

They interest the planes КРАЛЯ 630 to me. It wanted to know if there is posiblidad to receive them by mail. thanks

claudioseijo@fibertel.com.ar

[S.Arbeláez]

Alik, I`m plannig to construct a Pilgrim 590. I already have 1/10 scale model almost finished, but I have some difficulties to see some small details from the plans I've got from your website, and I don't know how to make the plans in real size. How can I get the plans? Is it possible to have them in SOLID EDGE? I'll really appreciate any indication.

Once again congratulations for the design.

Best regards,

S.Arbeláez
33463saa@epm.net.co

[Cesar Vera]

Hi, it is Cesar from Spain, I am interesting to building one pilgrim 590. I had benn looking the plans in internet but I never found that.

Please HELP ME!!!!

My e-mail: elpesote@hotmail.com


Many thanks

[jackmoai]

hi,wonderful job !
i can't wait sailing on this boat...

Could you send me the plans in english please ?
my e-mail: jackmoai@yahoo.fr

Thaks a lot !

[Vince J]

Free design for amateur boatbuilders

5.9m trailerable cruising wooden sailboat

http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=samostroy&st=piligrim590

Best regards,
Alik

Alik,
May I have a copy of the plans on english of the Plgrim 590 and the Krayla 630? I would like to study them and see which would be the best for me to build. Thank you for your generosity.
My email is: vjuliano@optonline.net

[Roby996m70]

Hi Alik,

Excellent designs. I am italian living in Egypt and I would like to build here my first sailing boat.

I have gone through your designs and I believe Pilgrim 650, Crayla 630 and Kavalier 800 are excellent.

I would like to have a complete set of information (Study Plans, Specifications, Drawings, etc.) in English if possible, so that I can start to decide the model and hopefully the construction.

My e-mail is: rafranco@infinito.it

Thank you again and compliments for the excellent job.

Ciao,
Roberto

[jan kriek]

Hey,

I also like this boat, and I would like to have an English copy of the design.

I would be verry thankfull if you 'ld send me this copy.

Thank you in advance.

Belgian greets,

[jan kriek]

sorry I forgot my mailadress

here it is

jankriek3@hotmail.com

[pr8head]

Alik, I like your design very well laid out and spacious for a small boat. Could you please send me a set of plans in English. Mt e-mail is dtbagger@blueriver.net

Thanks in advance
Tim

[Vince J]

Free design for amateur boatbuilders

5.9m trailerable cruising wooden sailboat

http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/index.php?pirs=samostroy&st=piligrim590

Best regards,
Alik
Alik,
May I have a copy of the plans on english of the Plgrim 590 and the Krayla 630? I would like to study them and see which would be the best for me to build. Thank you for your generosity.
My email is: vjuliano@optonline.net

[S. Arbeláez]

Hi Alik, I'm looking forward to construct a Pilgrim 590, but could you please send me the plans? I´ve all ready finished a 1:10 model, but I need more details.

Thanks,

S. Arbeláez

33463saa@comb.es

[Vince J]

Alik,
May I have a copy of the plans on english of the Plgrim 590 and the Krayla 630? I would like to study them and see which would be the best for me to build. Thank you for your generosity.
My email is: vjuliano@optonline.net

RSVP. Please acknowledge receipt of this reply.

thank you

Vince

[Vince J]

For some reason the posts of:
Jan Krieg
Roby996m70----Roberto
pr8head-----Tim
S. Arblea'ez ; are being forwarded to me. I have nothing to do with the plans and I list this so that these people will not wait forever with no hope of response.

I have gone to Alik's original page and made my request there ...Several times and have not received a response. I also emailed him at the address he posted and it came back as undeliverable. I have no idea how to reach him or how to get the plans. If anyone was successful could they please post how they accomplished it on this thread so that we also may get the plans?
Many thanks for your help and my apologies to those whose request was forwarded to me. Vince

[jbs]

Alik,

Very nice designs. Could you send me the plans for CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 in english to jbs@ccr-c.pt. They all look suberb.

[boristhespie]

Has anyone actually recieved these plans? I've contacted a few times with no luck.

[Vince J]

Boristhespie:
No. I have not recieved any reply after several requests. In fact some requests areeing directed to me. See my previous posts

[dreammaster]

can you send me a copy of the pilgrim 590 english plans?
teresa.lorusso8@tin.it

[galaprod]

I would like to thank you from all concerned as to the beauty and thought you have put into this vessel... I, too, would like to have the plans in english...
Gary L. Ashby
galaprod@worldnet.att.net

[kevinwilt]

I really like the look of this boat, and was also wondering if I could get an english copy of the Pilgrim 590 plans. Thanks.

kevinwilt@hotmail.com

[guest]

OK, e-mailed to everyone. Thanks for Your interest.
I love the specs, could you send me an english version? Thank you for your time ingtar_shinowa@hotmail.com

[galaprod]

I would like to thank you from all concerned as to the beauty and thought you have put into this vessel... I, too, would like to have the plans in english...
Gary L. Ashby
galaprod@worldnet.att.net

Just checking to see if anyone has received the plans or even a reply... thanks.

[Tobias]

This is the my first little dinghy I have ever drawed.
If you like it download it in 3dm format (Rhino) here:

http://www.tobias-nagel.nl/download/Dinghy.zip (7,7mb)

Comments are welcome.

greetings
Tobias

[Alik]

Sorry, now I'm back.
I'm ready to make Pilgrim590 and Kavalier800 designs downloadable for FREE, with English specifications and loft drawings. Anyone has web-space available?

[Jeff]

Anyone has web-space available?
Glad to see you back, and excellent news!

Send me a PM if I can be of help with web-space - I'd be glad to offer some for this if it would be of use.

[Jeff]

Thanks to Alik, you can now download the DWG/DXF loft drawing and English specs from http://www.boatdesign.net/NYD/

[tcorreia]

Hy Alik,
I’m planning to build a sailboat. The Kavalier 800 and CRALYA 630 are very nice and serious options. I’ve found more info. in English of CRALYA 630,
but still having difficulties with Russian.
Do you have info, instructions, CAD drawings, construction tips, etc.. in English for the KAVALIER 800, can you send it by mail? There are any sites with construction evolution, descriptions, details, photos of these boats?

Best regards in advance for your attention!

Tiago Correia.
tiagocorreia@yahoo.com

[gudway]

I searched in vein for info on keel PLACEMENT and design.
How do I calculate/determine exactly where to place the keel?

Thanks

[Alik]

'Pilgrim 590' does not have any keel...

[ricardoribeiro]

Alik ,
do you have some glide of boat of the microclass?
Do you have the grp plan single skin with resin of polyester of the 630?
Here in Brazil it is not so easy to find materials for sandwich, as well as epoxy.
I think a lot about doing a long adventure in a very small boat for every Brazilian coast, up to now the boat that more it interested was me that of the picture, but I preferred a monohull, a 550 with bulb kell, something as a smaller minitransat.

[nando10]

I would like to receive the plans of your Kav 800 and minitransat projects keel included address is nando10@interfree.it.
I have seen the file k800.zip but i don't understand how to build the keel and the material.
Pardoned my english.

[Raggi_Thor]

See www.backmanboats.com/drawing.html
for a 550 with bulb keel.

[archnav.de]

Thanks to Alik, you can now download the DWG/DXF loft drawing and English specs from http://www.boatdesign.net/NYD/

Hi Alik, hi Jeff,
it would be great, if you can place the Pilgrim 590/Kavalier80 "Downloadable Drawings and Specifications" with the 3D thumbnail and a link towards Alik web site also under 3D CAD Blocks and Drawing Files. Please upload the .zip files.

Regrads

Bernd

[franela]

Hi ,can help me please, a need a minitransat.3dm(maxsurf, multisur) file, tanhks !!!

[urbramus]

Hi,
Can you please send me the english building plans of the Alien 1350? My email is urbramus@hotmail.com. If possible in .dxf or .dwg . I just love the design!

Thanks in advance,
Bram

[boby boy]

I found your design rather helpful I did not follow it exactly but it inspired me in a new project I am starting. Thank you for posting this Alik.

[afkamuel]

Nice design, i would like build one in Spain. Could you send me specifications and plans in spanish, please? Thanks.
afkamuel@hotmail.com

[annasejahat]

alik,
when through ur site and got interested with zabava and kapritz 490. dont mind to pay if u can give me the plans.
contact me at annas_ahmad@petronas.com.my

[piovesan]

Hi!
My name is Rafael and I'm from brazil. I'm planning to build a pilgrim 590, but a have a doubt. How do I make de lamination with the fiber glass? How many layer of mat or coth do I have to use?
thanks
Rafael

[mackid068]

The picture you showed, ricardo, what kind of boat is it (I know it's a catamaran) but is it kit or what? Do you have a website for it?

[Marcello]

Hi Alik

Very impressive designs. I am in Brasil. Can I request the plans for Cralya 630, my email is mar.maru.net@inteligweb.com.br

regards

Marcello

[Jonas63]

Well... a radiocontrolled model

http://nautimodelismo.no.sapo.pt/pilgrim.htm

[Alixander Beck]

Can you please send me plans of the Kavalier 800

flourescentbrown@yahoo.ca


Thanks!~

[Tactic]

You can download them from the main page of this site.

[Cesar Bettafish]

hope you guys dont mind me addressing to my countryman in brazilian portuguese since its quite easier for us to understand each other , ok? Imnot sure if thats against the rules, if so ,please someone let me know ok?
Ola colega, eu sou instrutor de Iatismo no Projeto Navega São Paulo do Lars Grael e adoraria incluir uma belezinha dessas na nossa flotilha em Cubatão onde eu dou aulas. É isso mesmo que eu entendi? Esse site russo esta dando esse planos de construção de graça? Se sim, voce poderia me repassa-los por favor? Muito Grato ;)
Cesar

[Cesar Bettafish]

sorry everybody! the previous one was meant to bbullet, a brazilian like myself. Im not familiar with this forum thing, I thought that would go straight for him.
Anyway, now in english, Im a sailing instructor for a project idealized by the Brazilian olimpic champion Lars Grael in São Paulo state , Brazil,to spread the sport among the lower classes of our people, and I would love to be abble to improve our little fleet with one of those Pilgrim 590.
Is that correct? Are the russian designers giving it for free? If so, please someone send me a copy of the plans ok? cesarpeixinho@yahoo.com.br
Thank you very much in advance and forgive me for my bad english..you know,public school .;)

[simon924]

As You Can See By The Title I Am Interesting In Building The T 800.
I'm Wondering If There Is Anyone Who Has Allready Started Building Her , In Order To Exchange Experiences Because I'm Allmost Ready To Begin.:)

[corsario]

Hello to the forum, it wanted that please somebody that has the planes of the P590 in ingles can send it to me to el_42_31@hotmail.com, I am of Argentinean, as soon as I fix to me with ingles, imagine with the Russian thanks!

[Alik]

Pilgrim590
http://www.geocities.com/samimocmak/

[mcgyne]

Could you please send me the plans to the PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 in english to pmagajne@gmail.com
thanks
mcgyne

[pablo_mdq1]

Alik...
Could you send me the plans for CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 to pablo_mdq1@yahoo.com.ar . They all look suberb it will take a little research to decide which one to build.

thank you.

Pablo.

[pablo_mdq1]

Alik...
Could you send me the plans for CRALYA 630, PILGRIM 590 and KAVALIER 800 in english PLEASE to pablo_mdq1@yahoo.com.ar . They all look suberb it will take a little research to decide which one to build.

thank you.

Pablo.

[Alik]

Plans of Plilgrim590 and Kavalier800 are available here:
http://www.boatdesign.net/NYD/
We do not issue any extra drawings of these boats.

[skipper_66]

Alik:

Would appreciate design in English please. Thanks in advance.

Frank.Wheeler@mi.mun.ca

[CapKos]

Hi,
Having a similar boat, I’m worry that Pligram will be not stable to carry her sails (more then 20 sq m!).

All the best,
CapKos

[faneca999]

hi alik!
can you order me the complet plan of the pilgrim 590?

[ToMeK]

Hi Alik!

I am fond of your boats. I have always wanted to have a sailboat, and now I think it may become true. Could you please send me all the informations about the pilgrim 590 (drawings, specs, how much does it cost to build a pilgrim, and some guide through the procedure of building) you have, because it is my first time to do similar work.
Answer me on my e-mail please: tprosine@gmail.com

P.S. I would be grateful if anyone could help me with some informations.

Thank you,

Tomislav Prosinecki

[frankoo6]

hi alik can you sen specifications in inglish of kavalier 800 and p 590 and sistem metric please

my e-mail is : frankoo6775@yahoo.com.mx

thanks .....

[larry bethel]

Sorry, now I'm back.
I'm ready to make Pilgrim590 and Kavalier800 designs downloadable for FREE, with English specifications and loft drawings. Anyone has web-space available?

Alik I would love to get my hands on K800 plans,However as I,m on dial up they would likely cause a jam that would take forever to unblock.Have plenty of space.No Broadband in my location.What are my options?Oh! and by the way I'm new,ish to internet stuff so draw the dots up pretty close together please. Kind regards Larry.

[Jeff]

See http://www.boatdesign.net/NYD/

[otxi]

Alik,

Excellent design, it's possible to get english version of the P590 design and specifications. Thanks!

fgonzalez78@hotmail.com

:)

[ToMeK]

Hi,

does anyone now where can I find some drawings (it would be good if they were free), for some small (around 5m long) sport sailboats. It would be good if it was made of wood, in the style of riva motorboats. You know, very shine and 'fancy', but without any cabin.
thanks. my email is tprosine@gmail.com

ToMeK

[boristhespie]

First of all, has anyone built one of these, it's been awhile now and it would be nice to hear how they perform and how easy they are to build. SECONDLY any chance of getting the plans in english for the lovely Cralya 630 which is on the NAZAROV website.

http://nyd.da.ru/



http://www.stugna.kiev.ua/c630/kralya630/c630_3dwhite.jpg (http://www.stugna.kiev.ua) (Linked)

[ziquiel]

Hi Alik,

I´m new in this and i need if you can, you please send me plans in english for this great design (Kavalier800).
My email is torte5taafondo@yahoo.com.ar

[Robin Larsson]

Seriosly, all of you that post things like, Hi Alik, could you email me the drawings, Are you unable to read? Read the whole thread and you´ll soon see that the drawings are downloadable on more than one site by now. Use those sites instead of harassing Alik:) He´s already done alot of work design the great boat for free..

By the way, I really like your designs Alik, could imagine to build some of them, but I promise to not hassle you for the plans;) Really nice of you to give away that much work for free!
But I must say that the Alien 1350 is the most interesting for me. How much would a complete set of drawings cost?

Have a nice evening everyone:)

//Robin

[Raggi_Thor]

Good point Robin :-)
A lot of interesting boats on Alik's web pages!

[Robin Larsson]

Thanks Thor:)

Fast du förstår väl svenska gissar jag?:) But since this is an english forum, I´ll keep it in english.

Yeah, Alik really got some nice designs, I like that modern sporty design. Suppose you do to Thor? Bit OT, but do you, or anyone else know how the new Backman 31 and 41 are coming along?

Alik, the Alien 1350, its planned to have a canting keel?

Keep up the good work Alik!

//Robin

[aitchem]

Don't see what you're all getting fired up about.

Or...is it the word "FREE".?

[Minjai]

Extremely nice boat. Could you also send me a copy of the English translation please? allyn@allyn.wanadoo.co.uk

Many thanks

[PsiPhi]

Hi
Just seen the Pilgrim 590, love the design, downloaded plans at http://www.boatdesign.net/nyd/P590/
As this would be the first boat I build, if I build it, I lack a bit in expertise.
Has anyone documented the the procedure so that a newbie could follow it?
Be grateful for any info that would guide construction.
- simonfbroad@yahoo.com

[joz]

If you want free design then get yourself a copy of the latest edition of Wooden Boat Magazine on page 44-51 which entails on small boat design

[joz]

If you want free design then get yourself a copy of the latest edition of Wooden Boat Magazine on page 44-51 which entails on small boat design

[Alik]

Pilgrim 590 built in Turkey.
http://www.geocities.com/samimocmak/
Bow shape, windows shape - do not comply with original design.

Please note: now we do not e-mail any plans. They are available for download here: http://www.boatdesign.net/NYD/

[Raggi_Thor]

It's a great little boat.
Any reports on how it sails?

[PsiPhi]

People say Boat Plans are only worth what you pay for them, but I'm new to this, so what do I know.
I'd like to build a boat, but if I can't build it cheap, I can't build it at all.

Has anyone looked at, or better still, has anyone built, one of Radoslaw Werszko's designs?

I ask this because this dayboat of his is almost exactly what I am looking for (or what I think I'm looking for :o) ).
http://dinghy.pl/40m_dayboat.htm

I have a couple of questions for the forum though ...
- Design uses ply frames and I'm told this is not a good idea??
- I'd like slightly bigger capacity and Radoslaw says I could increase it by 10%, is that a good idea?

Love to hear anyones thoughts on this design.

[seanform]

Hi there nice post!! can you please send me the instructions in english 10x

sean-joseph.formosa@gov.mt

[Raggi_Thor]

The 4 meter dayboat looks good, to me.
For my waters I would add flotation, maybe by closed compartments under the side benches?

I think you can scale it 10%, or more lengthwise, for example 10% wider and 20% longer.

[PsiPhi]

Raggi_Thor
Thanks for that.

Floatation compartments, would they be hollow and watertight, or filled with some sort of foam?

Also, I read somewhere that Phil Bolger recommended that you could scale a boat up to 10% lengthwise, but not widthwise?
Your suggestion is I could scale it differently in each dimension. Is that architectural reasoning, a recommended maximum, or just because the design is suitable?

Thanks again
Simon

[Raggi_Thor]

It's just common sense, as Bolger would have said :)
You can scale a boat up to 10% without any changes in shape.
That means more than 30% more displacement (volume, 1.1 ^3).
If you look at boats you notice that small boats has a length/beam of 2 or 2.5 while longer boats have relatively narrower beam.
So, based on reading and looking at boats I would estmate you can changes the length with 10% and keep the rest unchanged. If you stretch it more, you may want a larger sail area also, then it's wise to increase the beam also, and the you go, changing everything...
I noticed this polish site had a longer boat also.

A completely different boat that I like is this one,
http://dixdesign.com/argie15.htm
http://www.mboats.no/Argie15/ (Norwegian only)

[Raggi_Thor]

..Floatation compartments, would they be hollow and watertight, or filled with some sort of foam?..

Hollow and watertight, and with plastic hatches so you can store fishing gear etc there,
or just airbags under the seat in the existing design.
or some styrofoam under the benches.
It depends on the waters you sail in.
If you get caught in bad weather and have to bail a boat out after a capsize it's better to float high, if you can paddle to a friendly shore it isn't that important..

[PsiPhi]

Thanks again, "common sense" from a Naval Architect is valuable resource to someone like me.

I asked Radoslaw about putting the dayboat cockpit configuration and rig in the larger hull, he replied . . .

both boats 4.0m and 4.5m have definitely opposite characters. The 4.0m dayboat is suitable for leisure boating. She is easy to sail, and very quick to launch and rig. It is also possible to use oars or an outboard motor. The 4.5m dinghy is different. She is faster, more exciting to sail, more efficient upwind, but her rig is far more complicated. Each of both hull shapes is neatly fitted to its rig and arrangement. I am not sure, if it is a good idea to mix them, and replace the 4.0m hull with the 4.5m one. I'd rather recommend to rescale the dayboat 10% up (to 4.4 m in length), and eventually replace the daggerboard with a centreboard situated at the same place and similar to this one of the 4.5m dinghy.

I might have to put the design into a software program and work out what size (displacement) boat I really need [4 adults, dog & picnic].

I found that Argie 15 just a couple of days ago. I have two designs on my want list if I were to buy plans - the Argie 15 and the Glen-L 15, though the Glen-L is not flat bottomed and I want a shallow draft for the Pummistone Passage (GoogleEarth Bribie Island - Pummicstone is the streach of water that makes Bribie an island). I'm also suggested a Lug sail would be better for a beginer to handle.

[PsiPhi]

Calm waters - rivers, lakes, estuarys, and no more than 50 yards from the shore, for now . . .

[Alik]

People say Boat Plans are only worth what you pay for them...

Yes. Try to BUY plans of 26' boat from ***** for one hundred bucks. No problem that lines plan enclosed is for 22-footer... You will be given a coefficient, so You can scale it up multiply by 1.152, on Imperial system - spend wonderfull time :)

I say plans are good if You pay good money for them. In our case with Pilgrim 590 it is a kind of donation.

[PsiPhi]

Thanks Alik, Pilgrim was actually the first set of plans I found (that I liked) - I would like to think it will be the 3rd or 4th boat I build, when I get some skills in building (and sailing).

Still got to build the first one yet . . .


Heinleins first rule of becoming an Author "First, you have to write something..."

Same applies to Boat Building I guees ;)

[hyperion]

Hi Alik!
Great designs, and for free.. that is just amazing :)

Im planning to build myself a sailboat however im looking for something bigger with more space. I have been looking at your design: Grace 1420 and i just love it. To me it looks like the perfect boat and i would love some more info on it. Especially what i would have to do to get my hands on those drawings and how much it would set me back.

You can contact me by email to peter_yz125@msn.com
Thats probably where ill see it first and i would love to hear from you.

[GIORGIS_H]

I have downloaded the plans from the site, and looking forward to start the project. many things have to be explained, but the plans are a very good starting point. They seem OK for an amateur builder.
If anyone has started building, please contribute to the forum. Photos will be most useful.

Any idea about the material list and the expected cost of the "kavalier"?

[Alik]

K800 sailing... but this boat is a bit overweight due to thicker plywood used. Also I think that they just borrowed sails from another boat.

[frankoo6]

HI ALIK I HEVE A QUESTION i don't have polywood marine can use normal polywood, and put resin epoxic insade the boat? it is posible?

i can do ocean travelers? with this k 800?

wath tink abauth of this idea?


Thank´s for everything

[GIORGIS_H]

HI ALIK I HEVE A QUESTION i don't have polywood marine can use normal polywood, and put resin epoxic insade the boat? it is posible?

i can do ocean travelers? with this k 800?

wath tink abauth of this idea?


Thank´s for everything

Well, marine grade ply is the best you can use. Anything else may cause serious problems, especially when you will have to push the boat to its limits.
If I was you, provided that you mentioned ocean sailing I wouldn't compromise with anything less than marine grade ply. This will keep high the selling value of your boat as well.
My advice: don't get into a HUUUGE project like the k-800, unless you are sure you can find the proper meterials.

Sorry, ALik, for bypassing you...

[GIORGIS_H]

K800 sailing... but this boat is a bit overweight due to thicker plywood used. Also I think that they just borrowed sails from another boat.


I noticed that only 8mm ply is used for the bulkheads and the chines as well. Is that right? Seems rather thin to me for the bulkheads. Is there any other alternative thickness (eg 10mm) than one might use without adding extreme weight to the yacht?

[Whytte]

Could you please send me the plans to the Cralya 630 in english to claudio.181@hotmail.it
thanks

[GIORGIS_H]

Hi there Alik and crew!

The "kavalier" project has just started. The first step is the 1:10 scale balsa-wood model, that will help me understand the geometry of the plans and maybe any problems as well.

Pictures will follow soon enough.

There are however certain problems and I need some answers.
1) I don't have any idea about the keel weight, material, and construction, neither about how it is fitted to the hull. PLEEEEASE HELP!
2) Is it OK, if I use ply instead of pine for the bulkheads? What should be the thickness of the ply?

thanks in advance...

[thailandboy2004]

hi there..i noticed you said you are a boat designer right? if so could you design some plans for me for a thai stlye water taxi boat? the long boat type..i could pay you..please contact me if possible..tom

[ribfreak]

So I`ll be the 1001st to ask the most stupid questions in this thread over and over again?

"Hi Alik, can you please send me all the boat plans you`ve ever drawn because I want to build myself one! ... and can you include detailed pricings because I need to figure out why I truly can`t afford one! ... and can you send me nice coloured pictures because I rather like to daydream than actually do something! .... and could you send me a detailed building instructions in Suaheli because I`m too stupid and/or lazy to figure out something by myself! ....and can you be my personal boat designer during the next couple of years for free? ... or can you build the boat for me? .... and can you wipe my stupid a.. every now and then?"

When I read through all the posts and stupid questions in this thread I doubt that there`s even one person in here who`s really ever done something other than just posting some bull... in boat building forums!

I can`t read one single word in russian but it`s not necessary to understand the plans anyway. If you`re not even able to figure out how to build this simple plywood shoebox you better should stay away from boatbuilding entirely- save your money and buy a boat from your local dealer. Hopefully you`re better captains than craftsmen....

[PsiPhi]

Do I detect a small note of sarcasm?

[mdatrpz]

Alik:

How does that pivot keel raise/lower.

Of course, send the CAD drawings if you feel like it to the 1002 person who has requested them (md@rpzdesign.com)

Cheers.

[lewisboats]

a LINK to these plans has been posted a couple of DOZEN times here...Please make the effort to READ the posts before asking for someone to DO the work for you.

Steve (who has posted the link MORE than once in this thread)!

[PsiPhi]

I had a look at the plans for the Pilgrim, it's still high on my lists of which boat I would like to build.
Knowing very little about boats or boatbuilding, in fact as a totally and utter newbie, is it rude to point out a little deficiency in the plans?
Unless I am missing something, there's no instructions on how to use them.
For an experienced boat biulder this may not be a problem, but as the plans are aimed at novice home builders don't you think a lot more would get built if there were some instructions?

OK - Please - Don't Flame Me - I'm not asking Alik to come and build it for me :D Read the rest of this post before reacting.
Unlike most people, I have read this entire thread, end-to-end, I even managed to find and download the plans all by myself - in English!!

It is a wonderful and generous thing that we have been given these plans for free - we should return that favour to the designer.
Everyone who has built one of these boats, or who has good boat building experience, or who can understand the plans as they are, should contribute to a set of guidelines for the really amateur (like me) builder. Like an Open Source software project - for those who are familiar with the concept - many people contribute their time and effort (just because they can) and everyone benefits.
As I fit none of the catagories above I would be happy to contribute instead the effort of collating the experience and knowlege of others into a document that could be used as instructions to build one of these boats. I even have a Russian friend who might translate the results back into Russian if I ask him - might cost me a bottle of Vodka, but hey...

Instead of asking for more lets give a little back.
Anyone interested?

[cx4dad]

Alik:
the Pilgrim 590 is a nice boat, my version of Pilgrim is Pilgrim 635 name Solymareño-
I have many pictures at http://cx4dad.hi5.com/.-
Solymareño was launched the past 17/2/2008 , Uruguay South America.-
Thank you for the desing.
Regards Pedro
cx4dad@montevideo.com.uy

[PsiPhi]

Pedro
Wow! A beautiful version of this boat.

[pesciolino]

hello pedro,
to convert your p590 in a p635, you have only extended the bow? or you have made other modification.

thank you for replies, if any.

buon vento...

[cx4dad]

Dear Pesciolino;
the modification was only extended the bow and the center board was changed from 10 mm to 12.7 mm (one half inch) about 80 kg of final weight...
Please look at http://cx4dad@hi5.com the second page of pilgrim 590.
my mail is cx4dad@montevideo.com.uy....no problem for send all pictures for you... and for send my version of:


Alik:

How does that pivot keel raise/lower.

Of course, send the CAD drawings if you feel like it to the 1002 person who has requested them (md@rpzdesign.com)

Cheers.

I have not problems with the box of centerborard... the rudder is very good

whell my friend Pesciolino, I' m waiting for your reply... but repeat the Pilgrim 590 it's a nice boat.
regard Pedro and sorry for my english-.--

[apalazzi]

Dear Pesciolino;
the modification was only extended the bow and the center board was changed from 10 mm to 12.7 mm (one half inch) about 80 kg of final weight...
Please look at http://cx4dad@hi5.com the second page of pilgrim 590.
my mail is cx4dad@montevideo.com.uy....no problem for send all pictures for you... and for send my version of:


Alik:

How does that pivot keel raise/lower.

Of course, send the CAD drawings if you feel like it to the 1002 person who has requested them (md@rpzdesign.com)

Cheers.

I have not problems with the box of centerborard... the rudder is very good

whell my friend Pesciolino, I' m waiting for your reply... but repeat the Pilgrim 590 it's a nice boat.
regard Pedro and sorry for my english-.--

So, how is the pilgrim at sea?

Bye

Andrea

[cx4dad]

So, how is the pilgrim at sea?

Bye

Andrea

Andrea: we sail in the Rio de la Plata, it'snt a good place for sail, because the wave is short, but the Pilgrim sail very good, we had 256 Nm at this moment without any problem.

[caantona]

Hi GIORGIS;
i'm planning a boat building..
Are you finish your k800 project ? Could you give me inform your project ?

Could you find answers your questions for keel and etc.








Hi there Alik and crew!

The "kavalier" project has just started. The first step is the 1:10 scale balsa-wood model, that will help me understand the geometry of the plans and maybe any problems as well.

Pictures will follow soon enough.

There are however certain problems and I need some answers.
1) I don't have any idea about the keel weight, material, and construction, neither about how it is fitted to the hull. PLEEEEASE HELP!
2) Is it OK, if I use ply instead of pine for the bulkheads? What should be the thickness of the ply?

thanks in advance...

[martinworswick]

Hi Alik!

I surfed on internet for a while and I saw one pretty sailboat, MacGregor 26X. I liked it very much because I need boat to sail in it for few days. It has toilet and kitchen and 6 beds. Can you please send me drawings (plans for building, designs) of it and tell me how much it costs to build that sailboat. Please send me designs in DWG format (AutoCAD format). I would be very happy if you could help me. Please send me designs on my e-mail: Tomislav1.Prosinecki@public.srce.hr

P.S.: Send me them in English, PLEASE! :) Thanks Alik! :)

:?: :?: :?: :?: :rolleyes:
unbelievable!:rolleyes:

[zoranb]

Hi ,
I am monitoring this topis and general idea of K800 for couple of years.
And, I belive there are few general problems:
- there is no more then one-and only russian/ukarine blue-hull K800 put on watter 9till the date
- sooo many people are attracted with word FREE, that is almaost painful (daj Prosinečki ne brukaj više svoju pomorsku naciju!). Theey think K800 is long, light, have some acomodation and thet is yacht, alows me to sail over ocean or catch the babe! Guys, just look at sail area, BWL and weight, and you will figured our that K800 is serius racer, not for first-timers.
- peoiple want plans on different lenguagues. Why everything must be in english? Use some web-translator, at least. And, finnaly all mesurments are in milimeters. Quite enough for technical reading people.
- I did not fgo throug all 18 pages of post, but this boat CAN NOT be build form just few sheets of paper, except you have some experience. if not, go to nerest bookstore (or web) and find some popular book about amateur boatbuilding in plywood.

-at last , it is obvious that more enthusiastic builders have problem: keel and rudder; realy Alik, you miss to add rudder shape , and kell and keel box material.I am almost sure that keel and keel box should be from stell or even lead (did not make volume-to- weight calculations, but for that sail plan...)

- and, if anyone from you go deeper in web, you can find that K800 is some amateur-build version of Alik's Pluto 800. And there, position and construction of keel is so obvious.

- and, I am with Alik 100% : for free it is too much to expect all details to be covered. Sercing over the webb wil help you to find many varios solution for keel retracting, rudder hardware etc.

- Personaly, I am more concerned in one: how she sails?

[Alik]

Hi ,
I am monitoring this topis and general idea of K800 for couple of years.
And, I belive there are few general problems:
- there is no more then one-and only russian/ukarine blue-hull K800 put on watter 9till the date
- sooo many people are attracted with word FREE, that is almaost painful (daj Prosinečki ne brukaj više svoju pomorsku naciju!). Theey think K800 is long, light, have some acomodation and thet is yacht, alows me to sail over ocean or catch the babe! Guys, just look at sail area, BWL and weight, and you will figured our that K800 is serius racer, not for first-timers.
- peoiple want plans on different lenguagues. Why everything must be in english? Use some web-translator, at least. And, finnaly all mesurments are in milimeters. Quite enough for technical reading people.
- I did not fgo throug all 18 pages of post, but this boat CAN NOT be build form just few sheets of paper, except you have some experience. if not, go to nerest bookstore (or web) and find some popular book about amateur boatbuilding in plywood.

-at last , it is obvious that more enthusiastic builders have problem: keel and rudder; realy Alik, you miss to add rudder shape , and kell and keel box material.I am almost sure that keel and keel box should be from stell or even lead (did not make volume-to- weight calculations, but for that sail plan...)

- and, if anyone from you go deeper in web, you can find that K800 is some amateur-build version of Alik's Pluto 800. And there, position and construction of keel is so obvious.

- and, I am with Alik 100% : for free it is too much to expect all details to be covered. Sercing over the webb wil help you to find many varios solution for keel retracting, rudder hardware etc.

- Personaly, I am more concerned in one: how she sails?

A lot of wrong statements.

There are more than ten boats built and launched to K800 design. Keel box material is specified - it is a pack of steel plates joined together. Some boats are built with bulbkeel - drawings also available.

Level of details of drawings is enough for amateur builder with experience, but not enough for 'dummy builder'. These designs are not intended for people with zero experience.

As with many amateur-built boats, the quality is not to top level, but some boats look really nice and built to high standard. They also sail well, though some 'family boats' use shortened mast.

People who really build the boats are getting the support, those who only dream and ask thousands of questions - no, sorry... So, continue Your monitoring :)

[zoranb]

Wow, this was fast!
I thought that no one reads K800 Posts!

Despite your first sentence oposing to me, I am more than satisfied with answers!
first of all; one big AHA!
So, there are lot of boats build world wide!
Where are pictures! All fathers like to show pictures of own childs. Boatbuilders even more! Last evening, before send my post, I pass all 17 pages of this post looking for pictures ( one picture speaks more than 1000 words) .
But without result.

Did somone have idea to make some web-ring?
i.e Didi 26 builders have it, with lot of pictures, and links.

In other items, I think we speking same lenguague.
Sorry, I did not find any description of keel and keel box on original web-site.
To be sure, I just downloaded plans from site, again. I have also all availble documents: magazine article , blue-boat building pictures, even all available material about Pluto 800,

By the way, I did not see your comment about K800 and Pluto 800 simmilarity.
Are they "relatives" ?
And , finaly, I(we) will be happy to have some links to other K800 builders.

And, about building: it is not problem wheather I will monitor or build. But, prior to start anything, I (and many other potential builders) need to have at least, some reference.
Belive me it is not question of price-for-plans. All serious builders knows that price of plans is neglectable comparing to all other costs. But, I, and many other visitors of this site simply likes lines of K800. more than some other (available) plans.

I have feeling that you "marked" me as some web-site builder, not real one .
Maybe, but I do not know why I than make comaprison table between K800 and other competitors (based on available data), why I try to make lines for round bilge version (for strip planking i.e) etc,etc.

Again, I have feeling that there are so many people, just need some proof , to start building.
Like pictures, speed reference....


Your turn..

[Alik]

If You have Russian version from magazine, You should be able to read this:

Киль
Плавник киля изготавливается сварной конструкции – набирается из вертикальных пластин, либо литым. Общий вес плавника (без шверта) должен составить 300 кг. При необходимости, в корпус можно уложить дополнительный внутренний балласт.

Drawing of keel is available also.

For web-ring - K800 is not commercial project as Didi26, and I do not really have resources to coordinate K800 builders.

K800 and Pluto800 - the last one is purely racing boat, 2 units built. The red boat which one You can see on photos is active racer. There is nothing common in these two designs excerpt they are both 8m class.

[peppe]

Hello,
I'm building K800, could you give me some information about mobile keel (materials and weigth)
Thanks

[peppe]

these are some pictures of my k800 under construction, if someone is intersted to exchange information can contact me by e-mail: peppeprete@libero.it