What's been folks' experiences with dry and wet suits?

[Vermonter]

Warm weather is scarce here in VT.

I have lots of experience with keeping myself from going hypothermic on land. I've played a bit on Mt. Washington, where it can drop 30 degrees in 30 minutes. I always give it lots of respect. Now that I'm interested in learning to sail I need to learn about the right clothes for being in the water if stuff happens. I'm a strong swimmer but I know that cold water can kill you fast. I'll mainly be on Lake Champlain where it can be a couple miles to shore.

How cold can you realistically go with wet and dry suits?

Anybody know sources for custom sized ones? I'm 6'4". XL-Tall almost fits, but for a jumpsuit type setup I really need to be fit by actual measurements.

Thanks for any info. :)

[lazeyjack]

hah!!! seeing as I swim in tropical seas, albeit , my pool os 15c now!!
dry suits, big hassle to get into, , but if I were you, I would go to the offshore oil industry to search, maybe you could even try the North Sea offshore supply and salvage industry, suggest email Bourbon ,in Norway and ask who supplies them, This is not a disrespectful, play on Bourbon, just that they are the only name to spring to mind
To my way of thinking, there is nothing worse than a tight 8mm wetsuit, especially around the um er, thingies, It is suprising how much cold the body can tolerate, if one just wears a hood, in say 18 c waters,
Come to think of it, sry suits are mandatory on all Barents fishing boats, so there you have many avenues to explore

[Poida]

Scuba diving here we wear wetsuits.
Drysuits are used in very cold water such as under ice diving.

Wetsuits are named "wet" because they let the water in and in icy conditions you would probably be unconcious before the water warmed up.

As lazyjack said you also have to consider what you can move about in on board.

Poida

[Bergalia]

Dated by now Vermonter, but my crew and I managed to outfit ourselves with 'ex-Airforce' immersion suits from an Army Navy Stores back in the UK (roughly US$100 a piece - but that was umpteen years ago). Such items probably still exist - and are available as surplus gear to the public.
Big bright orange things, rubber-coated cotton, roomy enough to cover thermal underwear and a couple of sweaters. They had built-in 'feet' which fitted snugly into boots, elasticated cuffs and hood (which pinched the face so that the eyes bulged - but kept the water out). Biggest problem was the huge rubber-sealed 'zip' which ran across the chest. The wearer would struggle into the lower section through the zipper opening - then drag the head and arms in, pulling the top section up and over. Then the hardest part was 'zipping' yourself in - usually requiring the strength of two men.
However that said the suits proved damn near watertight, retained much of the body heat and allowed plenty of free movement.
The next problem was getting out of them.

[yipster]

on a cruise ship protection differs from that of a small sailcat
so type and size boat also determines your needs
and livejackets usually are mandatory

[timgoz]

Mustang makes both jackets and full one piece suits. These are types that give mobility and can be worn while onboard. Survival suits give the longest cold water lifespan but are to cumbersome for regular wear.

I have a Mustang jacket. They have built in floatation and are warm & rainproof.

We used wetsuits when I was a whitewater river guide. That combined with a wind sheilding layer and some wool worked OK. I've taken a 1/4 mile swim in mid 30's F whitewater and am still here.

Tim

[Bergalia]

....and am still here. Tim


We've only your word for that Tim? How do we know that you aren't Frosty in one of his many disguises hoping to sneak extra sympathy points....:)

After all - if you spell your name backwards 'Zogmit' you get the Thai word for: "I am in fact Frosty in one of my many disguises hoping to sneak extra sympathy points...":(

[timgoz]

Actually "Zogmit" comes from a now extinct Thai dialect. Ooops, now how would I have known that? :eek:


Back to clothing. The one piece Mustang float suits (not full survivor but general wear) are used by the govt. fisheries fellows on the Labrador Coast. At least when operating out of open boats. The water there, mid-summer, is never more than 35 F in the open sea.

Tim

[Poida]

Yep Tim, if you can read this I'm still here.

[timgoz]

Max might have something to say about that. Are any of us really here?

Tim

[Poida]

Spooky **** Tim

[timgoz]

You are in the 3 digit club now. :)

Tim

[Bergalia]

Yes - happy birthday Poida. A 'ton' up..HM was on the phone earlier on wondering how to word her telegram...Did I think "Good on yer blue..." sounded suitably colonial....:)

[Frosty]

You'de think a man with 100 points would have an avatar.

Errrrm I dont think the Queen would have the slightest interest in phoning an absconded sweaty living in Aus.

[the1much]

lmao,,,your in VT?,,new englanders dont scuba dive, thats why we build so many boats,,keep us on top of the water, less chance of drowning heh ; )

[Frosty]

This a a tricky question. having experience with both I would say that it depends on if you intend to get into the water or if it will be accidental.

A wet suit can be very uncomfortable out of water for long periods. You will sweat and stink. However if in the water they are more suitable for swimming in. The dry is a warmer suit and you can live in one for many hours without a problem, you will also be much more protected for long periods but is not good for swimming in.

Personally if this is for sailing and to protect you from the occasional dunk, I would go with the dry.

[Trevlyns]

All very valid points lads, but remember - never EVER fart in a wet suit :D

[the1much]

roflmao,,hahaha,,the "other" reason new englanders dunt scubah dighhhys lmao

[Bergalia]

All very valid points lads, but remember - never EVER fart in a wet suit :D


A prime example of 'global' warming....:(

[Frosty]

farting maybe ,--it will be of no cosiquence, unless you are smoking.

But pissing ahhhhhh boy you gotta try that. It is lovelly and warm and very naughty wich makes it more fun. The problem is is wich side do you dress. You have to wriggle about a bit to get even amounts down each leg or you will get one cold and one warm leg.

This is all very well but there is a price to pay,--- when you remove your suit you smell like a public Bangladesh toilet on a hot day.

It tends to linger too so lots of after shave might --just might overcome it or you will be down the pub smelling like a Greek jock strap.

[Trevlyns]

A little more information than we needed, Frosty :D