Fastest Atlantic Crossing....

[Bergalia]

It's a sort of adjunct to the 'Where is it' thread. (If you haven't discovered it yet...get to it. Great way of expanding your 'worldly' knowledge.

But meanwhile - anyone like to hazard a guess at where it's possible to make the fastest Atlantic Crossing (any mode of transport) - and the average time taken.


I'll supply the answer once forum boredom sets in.:)

[lazeyjack]

It's a sort of adjunct to the 'Where is it' thread. (If you haven't discovered it yet...get to it. Great way of expanding your 'worldly' knowledge.

But meanwhile - anyone like to hazard a guess at where it's possible to make the fastest Atlantic Crossing (any mode of transport) - and the average time taken.


I'll supply the answer once forum boredom sets in.:)
have you bin drinkin" or have I, I'm not sure wot you mean, like a satellite crosses in the blink of an eye Why are you not designing something?

[Bergalia]

Ah Stu my friend...how silly of me. I of course meant what's the fastest crossing of the Atlantic by a human being (and temporarily I'll include Queenslanders in this group...)

As to the designs...still struggling with the 'controls.' But I'll get there. Meanwhile, again thanks. Will return the flat round things early next week by next camel train.....:)

[lazeyjack]

Ah Stu my friend...how silly of me. I of course meant what's the fastest crossing of the Atlantic by a human being (and temporarily I'll include Queenslanders in this group...)

As to the designs...still struggling with the 'controls.' But I'll get there. Meanwhile, again thanks. Will return the flat round things early next week by next camel train.....:)

oh you man my curling stone, wondered what had happened to it, been in the family for generations, another fine Scotttish invention

[Raggi_Thor]

You mean crossing the atlantic in aboat, like from America to Europe?
Is Greenland Europe?

[Bergalia]

You mean crossing the atlantic in aboat, like from America to Europe?
Is Greenland Europe?

Two questions there Raggi. Yes the crossing's been done by boat.

And No, I believe Greenland considers itself seperate from Europe. :)

I've also seen the crossing done on a bicycle.....:)

[PI Design]

Russia to Alaska - the Bering Strait? 24hrs?

[Bergalia]

Russia to Alaska - the Bering Strait? 24hrs?

Nope.......:)

[timshwak]

Is it the Incat Cat Link-V @ 41.3kts?

[Bergalia]

Is it the Incat Cat Link-V @ 41.3kts?

Nope.....:) Much older technology..... :)

It's a 'silly' question. Needs 'peculiar' local knowledge - so I'll add some clues to hurry you along.
Genuine Atlantic Crossing times:On bicycle - 5 seconds.
On foot - one minute; Motor vehicle - 5 - 7 seconds....Boat slightly slower - 1.5 minutes....
Answer below:
This is the Atlantic Bridge. Built in 1792 after the disadvantages of ferrying large bodies of troops were highlighted in the 1745 Jacobite rebellion. A high single span bridge over a navigable channel between Seil Island and the mainland permitting sailing boats to pass under its span. It is south of Oban (West Coast of Scotland).

[timshwak]

Probably the shortest distance to cross is some where between Brazil and Sierra Leonne / Guinea / Liberia in Africa...~1700-1800nm. I remember reading a story about a very large plane in the early days of aviation that chose that route for crossing because it was the shortest overwater route. The plane flew very close to the surface to gain lift grom ground effect and conserve fuel. Of course I can't remember all of the details about speed...

This is a good one Bergalia. I am interested to find out the answer...

[Bergalia]

This is a good one Bergalia. I am interested to find out the answer...

Sorry Tim - I'd posted answer before your last 'mail'...That's the problem with Australian 'networking'. :)
But while I'm here I'll just add a few more details: On the Island side - and that strip of water in the picture IS the Atlantic; on the island side is a pub called in English) The House of Trousers...Where good highland/Island men would stop off before crossing the bridge to change from the kilt into trousers. The English occupation forces had forbidden the "apurtenences of all 'Irish' wear...ie The kilt or philibeg; swords; targes (shields) the household dirk, and the bagpipes - on pain of death..."
On returning from the mainland the Highlanders/Islanders would retrieve their 'apurtenences' and don the kilt. As another aside it was the late 'Lady Di's' mother's favourite pub (she had a cattle farm on the island) and would frequently beat the 'trousers' off locals at darts...:)

[timshwak]

Good one...

I was thinking about crossing the "pond" not a "stream".

Very good pub trivia though. That will be a pint sometime...

[PI Design]

I reckon I could row that in less than a minute and a half. I might try for a new transatlantic record this summer.

[Bergalia]

Trouble is PI there's a very strong tidal rip through the bridge....

[alan white]

One word...Trolls. for Pete's sake, don't use a trolling motor!

A.

[Bergalia]

No worries here Alan, we ate the last of them years ago...welcome change from haggis and soup made from tufts of wool plucked off the barbed-wire fences....:)

[Raggi_Thor]

The sailing club in Trondheim has a small cottage on an island in the fjord one hour by boat maybe, the place is called "Cuba", in the Langesund fjord we have a small island called "Capri", and a rock called "Denmark"...

[safewalrus]

Mainly caused by drunken Scotsmen peeing off the said bridge! which of course is why they don't use trousers, too complecated to operate when your in a hurry! but just lift your skirt and your away ;)

[Trevlyns]

Quote Walrus ... just lift your skirt and your away...

Hate correcting you old bean, but it’s “you’re” You Pommies are supposed to have taught us the language you know.

Mind you, I like the Scot skirt idea. Could come in pretty handy, having the old tackle available pronto… well, perhaps when I was a bit younger. :p

[safewalrus]

Point taken Trev, (something about smart arsed Afrikaans springs to mind!)

[Trevlyns]

Ouch! I deserved that! Couldn't resist the jibe though - all forgiven?

[Bergalia]

....Mind you, I like the Scot skirt idea. Could come in pretty handy, having the old tackle available pronto…


Ah Trev, if only you knew. Harsh winters in Scotland - but if you sit too close to the fire, yer rabbi burns....(poetic justice really):D

[Frosty]

I dont believe that the scotts did not wear something under thier kilts.

From personall experience wearing underpants and trousers in the north of England have I suffered frost bite or at least cold rashes in this area.

Those of you who believe that they do not, have either forgotten or not experienced the bitter cold of these places in a winter.

18 hours of darkness in winter time, a miserable damp cold environment that can not be imagined.

Absalute freezing hell.

[alan white]

It's nuts to consider.

[alan white]

Speaking of golf, Jesus, Moses, and an old man with a beard went golfing. Moses teed off and watched as the ball fell directly into a water pond. Jesus had no better luck, though his ball ended up on a lilly-pad in the middle of the pond. The old man took his turn, and the same thing occurred.
On approaching the water, Moses stood at the edge and raised his arms. The water parted and he walked down to the bottom and knocked the ball onto the green. Jesus got to the water, but didn't even stop. He simply walked across the water until he reached his ball, and a light swing sent it onto the green alongside of Moses' ball.
Now it was the old man's turn. He hobbled up to the water and smacked his iron onto the water. This apparently surprised the fish who happened to have his ball in his mouth, who surfaced, only to be seen by a sharp-eyed hawk, who swooped and snared the fish. Flying overhead, the hawk circled until, in a moment of inattention, he crashed into a tree, causing the ball in the fish's mouth to dislodge and bounce to the ground. A squirrell, seeing what he thought must be a new kind of nut, raced over to the still bouncing ball and took it into his cheek pouch. Nervously looking around, he immediately spied the nearby !st hole. There he deposited the ball into the hole.
The old man grinned. "Hole in one!" he called.
Moses shook his head, turned to Jesus. "Jeez!" he complained, "I hate it when you you insist on bringing your dad along!"

[Guillermo]

I dont believe that the scotts did not wear something under their kilts.
They wear.....

[Bergalia]

...18 hours of darkness in winter time, a miserable damp cold environment that can not be imagined.

That, my dear Jack is why the Scots' nether regions - both male and female - are covered in a thick pelt of fur....(often mistaken for a sporran).:)

And Guillermo - I'm impressed with your collection of kilted figures...is there something we should know about your weekend hobby :D

And of course I couldn't end this note wthout once more repeating those hoary old chestnuts:(1) "Tell me Jock, what's worn under the kilt...?"
"There's nothing worn under the kilt - it's all in perfect working order...."

(2) "Tell me Jock - what do Scotsmen wear under their kilt...?"
"Stick yer hand up and feel..."
(In horror)"Och Jock...It's gruesome...."
"Aye, stick it up again...It's grew some more....":(

[alexlebrit]

Of course they didn't wear anything under their kilts - if a Glasgow girl can go out clubbing in January in a micro-mini skirt and a halter top - then a big butch scots man can stride around the highlands in a kilt with no trews on.

[Bergalia]

Of course they didn't wear anything under their kilts - if a Glasgow girl can go out clubbing in January in a micro-mini skirt and a halter top - then a big butch scots man can stride around the highlands in a kilt with no trews on.


Explain yourself Axel... I think your fellow members have a right to know - did you learn this fact from the micro-skirted Glasgow girl...or the big butch Highlander....:p

[Frosty]

Have you ever been skiinig in Avimore,--skiing on the Cairngorms ( spelling there).

Horizontal icicles, freezing fog, sheet ice, the most horrendous weather I have ever seen .

It was like bieng on the wrong side of Mars.

I had thermal underwear with skiing gear on and I was frozen to the bone,

I do not ,or will not believe any one could survive this weather with thier tackle exposed.

I am not talking about some bird In a mini skirt standing outside a disco for 5 minutes.

[Bergalia]

Have you ever been skiinig in Avimore...

Nice Freudian slip there Jack. Skinning is the right term for Aviemore. But no, never went skiing there - tried to avoid it (as did most 'locals' during 'the season') Too many English. But used to go rockclimbing on the crags behind the centre, and with the visiting shinty teams from the west. :)
Again touching upon Highland genitals...(oops another Freudian slip) if you browse Guillermo's 'private collection' of kilt pictures I think your fears will be laid to rest...And remember that Cameron of Lochiel revels in the title - 'Cock of the North'...need I say more.... ;)

[alan white]

It does all prod one to ask why. I imagine early inhabitants of a cold and clammy environs centuries ago sitting around the fire after the hunt in thick wool pants, teeth achattering, and one of them says, "Hey, I've got an idea. Tomorrow, let's all wear short plaid skirts!"
"Short skirts??", says another, "Last night you came up with that idea about the musical instrument that only plays one note! Two money saving tips in one week! Mark my words, McKilty, one day you'll lead this clan!"

[Bergalia]

..."Short skirts??", says another, "Last night you came up with that idea about the musical instrument that only plays one note! Two money saving tips in one week! Mark my words, McKilty, one day you'll lead this clan!"

Yes, another page from Scots history. Unfortunately McKilty went on to invent America.....:P

[alan white]

...And he leads our clan.

A.

[Frosty]

teeth achattering, and one of them says, "Hey, I've got an idea. Tomorrow, let's all wear short plaid skirts!"

This just hits the nail on the head.

Why would you sit there on a rock out in the freezing Highlands with your tackle dangling in the ice and think that was a good idea.

Having frozen tackle is very serious, its surprising they could pass on thier jeans. It would have been a bit warmer for them if they had a pair of jeans.

Maybe not fashionable but good sensible clothing would have been warmer.

Far warmer than a mini skirt (I would presume)

Look at Mel Gibson when he made that Scotish movie --he was so cold his face was blue. His tackle would have been the same colour,---almost purple.

It took 15 takes for Mel to shout FREEDOM, when he really wanted to shout F-F-F-FREEZING.


Freezing your tackle like this could make you impudent.

[alan white]

Word origins are fascinating. Take impudent for example. Im, from the Germanic in, pud needs no translation, and dent, originating from the Latin for tooth. Thus, impudent more precisely means in-pud-teeth, or, having ones pud out in the teeth of a gale.

[Bergalia]

...Thus, impudent more precisely means in-pud-teeth, or, having ones pud out in the teeth of a gale.

Could have been worse Alan - could have been interpreted as "Having ones pud out in the teeth of a Gael....":(

[alan white]

True. After writing it I realized it wasn't bad enough. Too lazy to edit.

We won't get into the origin of the word bagpipe then.

[Bergalia]

We won't get into the origin of the word bagpipe then.

Perhaps not. Similar to the word for the end of a trawl net - the 'codpiece'...Could never find one big enough to fit....:P

[alan white]

You can get waist extensions from a company in Idaho, I think. Otherwise, you might try a piece of rope to extend the waistband.

[Bergalia]

....Otherwise, you might try a piece of rope to extend the waistband.

I suppose that would make me 'well hung...'

[alan white]

Yes. That is what they all meant. The derivation of "well hung" comes from the Chinese, in fact. Originated when a particularly gifted suitor named Hung ask the question, "Why not??"

[Bergalia]

Never thought to see it...bested by an American:D :D :D

[charmc]

Never thought to see it...bested by an American:D :D :D

Alan: Well done!


Oops, sorry. Forgot that was what jack frost said after he got too close to the fire trying to thaw out his tackle after skining in Avimore.:D :D :P :P

[alan white]

(Deep bow, "shucks" look on face)---- Well, word origins are my thing ("thing" meaning vocation, hobby, or interest). I could have been a contender. Instead, I bought myself a one-way ticket to Palookaville.
Believe me, you little people aren't missing much. The thing (vocation, hobby, interest) can be a huge burden at times, and that's when support is most appreciated, when the monumental weight of the world seems to hang on you.

A.

[charmc]

(Deep bow, "shucks" look on face The thing (vocation, hobby, interest) can be a huge burden at times, and that's when support is most appreciated, when the monumental weight of the world seems to hang on you. A.

Easy there, Alan, don't go looking for a larger hat. All you did was one up a transplanted Scot, no big thing.

Hmmmm .... on second thought, maybe you have earned some bragging rights. Bergalia's literate, which makes him a more worthy opponent than the average Scot ... :P :P :D :D

[Bergalia]

... and that's when support is most appreciated, when the monumental weight of the world seems to hang on you.A.


Ah, we're back to my 'codpiece problem....' :)

[alan white]

We could go on and on with this subject. Me with the big hat down around my scrawly neck, you with the overstretched codpiece (waistband). We should call this thread the fastest Atlantic-crossing fashions for men.
That doesn't mean attempting to toss your codpiece over the bridge to my side, mind.

A.

[Bergalia]

That's True Alan...Pretty soon we'll have Wilma wading in with suggestions ...'ease of handling, correct useage, possible colour schemes, and tuck-away storage....' :(

[alan white]

Katherine Hepburn did it to Humphrey Bogart in the African Queen. Is that our destiny?
"Well, now Missy, you can't just weld a propeller out here in the jungle! Why, you'd need a forge, and coal and..."
"Well c-c-c-c-ouldn't you make a forge, Mr. Alnut?"
"Sure! If I had a bellows and a..."
"C-c-c-c-couldnn't we make a bellows out of your pants, Mr. Alnut?"

Yeah, Right!

[Frosty]

Jeees you guys are in for it if Wima sees this.

You had better lock your rep points. I dont know how to do it but Berg does.

Damn good film that, I had it on the boat but now ive lost it .I can only assume its dropped down the back of the wardrobe , that means BILGES. Its gonna have to stay there.


Did he get the prop welded--I cant remember.

[Bergalia]

Not quite sure Jack. Some time since I saw it...but didn't the German cruiser appear and start shelling them about that time, and didn't the African Queen 'sink' only to reappear drifting towards the end...
I'll check it out at the local video store and let you know...:)

[Frosty]

Was there a sex scene in it?

Did kate and Hump ever get it together.

As long as it ended happily ever after.

Ah those were the days-- a film without a black man with a gun in it.

[safewalrus]

Whoops Jack, again you gets it wrong - there were lots - of both!

[Frosty]

Morning walrus what you doing up so early its 6,48 am get back to bed.

Oh youve pissed in it,-- oh Ok

[alan white]

Was there a sex scene in it?

Did kate and Hump ever get it together.

As long as it ended happily ever after.

Ah those were the days-- a film without a black man with a gun in it.

Yeah, good movie. Gotta see it again soon. Yeah, they got it together in the end, in the water of all places. Bogie's got that perfect expression throughout the movie, that shell-shocked look. Especially when he has to go back into the leech infested swamp to pull the boat through. The only time he lightens up is when the two of them are about to be hanged. Then he looks like he's in seventh heaven. Go figure.

[Frosty]

So they got hanged? --Who hung em? ze Germans?

So Hump was well hung? In the water??? what with those leeches?

If I had to have sex with an ole sour puss like kate I would look forward to my hanging, providing it was before sex not during or after.

[Bergalia]

Have to disagree with you Alan. African Queen was set in the WWI period - before sex was invented. I know that my grandparents never had sex - nor did my parents...Come to think of it....Not sure if I ever did....:(

[alan white]

I went to the zoo once. I think if we're ascended from apes, I can see what did it. That explains the hair as a reminder. Maybe you're family didn't get the drift. Check out the zoo. Monkey cage, not the male-only one. That one's just for kids, to keep them out of trouble. I mean the other one, with the peep-hole. Yeah, I know. I didn't know about it either until last year when my kid showed me. Internet, of course.

[Bergalia]

I went to the zoo once. I think if we're ascended from apes, I can see what did it.

Proves my point Alan. Can't remember either my grandparents or parents swinging about in old motor tyres...Though now I think of it I did once but didn't like it - so never did it again....:)

[alan white]

Mmmm. Okay... um...alright, second round to you. The big hat's in the mail.
Better still, I'll toss it across at the bridge. Wait--- hang on til Jack has weighed in. Unfair to leave him out. A formality, of course, but best to go through the motions for propriety's sake.