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kach22i
05-15-2007, 11:31 AM
The Airplane:

John Stringfellow (1848), Sir Hiram Maxim (1893), and Samuel Pierpoint Langley(1898?)
http://oldenginehouse.users.btopenworld.com/flight.htm

Gustave Whitehead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustave_Whitehead
On August 14, 1901 in Fairfield, Connecticut Whitehead reportedly flew his engine powered Number 21 800 m at 15 m height, according to articles in the Bridgeport Herald, the New York Herald and the Boston Transcript. (See References below for a link to the full article.) No photographs were taken, but a sketch of the plane in the air was made by Dick Howell of the Bridgeport Herald, who was present. This flight precedes the Wright brothers' Kitty Hawk, North Carolina flight by more than two years.

The Wright brothers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Brothers
The Wright brothers, Orville (August 19, 1871 – January 30, 1948) and Wilbur (April 16, 1867 – May 30, 1912), were two Americans generally credited with building the world's first successful airplane and making the first controlled, powered and heavier-than-air human flight on December 17, 1903. In the two years afterward, they developed their flying machine into the world's first practical fixed-wing aircraft.



The Hovercraft:

Christopher Cockerell
http://www.hovercraft-museum.org/cockerell.html

Melville Whitnel Beardsley:
http://www.geneabase.com/ACV/acv.htm

Walter A. Crowley:
http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=7987

Charles J. Fletcher
http://www.njinvent.org/1993/inductees_1993/fletcher.html
While serving as a pilot in the U.S. Navy in Norfolk, Va., Charles J. Fletcher sketched the design for a vehicle envisioned to rise above the water or terrain (approximately 10 inches to two feet) depending on available horsepower. The vehicle would generate an airflow trapped against a uniform surface such as the ground or water, freeing it from the surface and eliminating friction. Positive control and movement would be attained using aircraft control techniques and the release of air. What Fletcher called the "Glidemobile" is known today ad the hovercraft. The hovercraft has proven to be a major advance in military land assault vehicles and modern inter-waterway travel. Hovercrafts are manufactured in the U.S. today and by Bell Aerosystems and sell for between $800,00 and $1.5 million each. Fletcher's claim as an inventor of the hovercraft, undocumented because the U.S. military suppressed the patent to keep the idea a secret, was recently validated during resolution of a lawsuit brought by British Hovercraft Ltd. against the United States, seeking royalties of $104 million. Attorneys for the U.S. Department of Justice found a 1960 edition of Design News which featured an article on Fletcher's hovercraft. Fletcher was tracked down and his records on the project which included 16 mm films of the "Glidemobile," documentation regarding his conceptual drawings, subsequent work, model flight trials, and various news articles proved easy to destroy the Hovercraft Ltd. case. Fletcher earned a bachelor's degree in aeronautical engineering from the academy of Aeronautics at New York University in 1950. He holds 17 aeronautical patents on vertical lift and rocket engines plus five additional patents for industrial products.


Vladimir Levlov
http://milparade.udm.ru/32/062.htm
On October 2, 1935, state trials of the L-1 air-skimmer (this was the official term adopted for the craft) began on the Pleshcheyevo Lake (the Jaroslavl Region, Russia).

http://milparade.udm.ru/32/0621.jpg

http://milparade.udm.ru/32/0622.jpg

http://milparade.udm.ru/32/0623.jpg


Sir John Isaac Thornycroft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovercraft
In the mid-1870s, the British engineer Sir John Isaac Thornycroft built a number of ground effect machine test models based on his idea of using air between the hull of a boat and the water to reduce drag.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hovercraft
DI Toivo J. Kaario
Finnish engineer DI Toivo J. Kaario, head inspector of Valtion Lentokonetehdas (VL) airplane engine workshop, began to design an air cushion craft in 1931. He constructed and tested his craft, dubbed pintaliitäjä (Surface Glider), and received its Finnish patents 18630 and 26122. Kaario is considered to have designed and built the first functional ground effect vehicle, but his invention did not receive sufficient funds for further development.

Frosty
05-15-2007, 11:45 AM
I think that Fred and Wilma Flintstone went on holiday in a flight in the stone age.

Although not a mechanical fight( is this relative) was however a contolled flight with inflight entertainment,-I seem to remember.

Braking was a little difficult needing passenger participation.

Bergalia
05-15-2007, 06:37 PM
A chap's really got to speak up for Australian initiative: John Keogh from Melbourne, in 2001 patented the wheel. However he says has, as yet, no plans to patent fire, crop rotation or other fundamental advances in civilization
Keogh wanted to prove the innovation patent system was flawed because submissions could be prepared without professional help and did not need to be examined by the Australian Patent Office. The name only has to be changed to "Registered Innovation" to avoid confusion with standard patents, he said.
He described his ‘wheel’ as a “Spherical object to facilitate smooth motion in non-stationery objects.”:)

lazeyjack
05-15-2007, 06:43 PM
Thankee for that, I was wondering what I was going to do this morning:)) interesting, ah BUT did you know, that ole Pute has the biggest Amphibian aircraft? If you can find pics of this , please do cos I,m busy working out how much plate I need for my new boat, which, has no wings and if you are real nice I may take you sailing

Frosty
05-15-2007, 09:06 PM
Berglia,-- thats probably true.

In Yorkshire we invented the fart,--simply because people at that time didnt know what it was.

Being unabled to measure it -see it or even prove it existed, was difficult.

Also knowing when one would come was some what of a surprise.

However it was as you would imagine that toilet paper was a direct progression of work in this field.

Bergalia
05-15-2007, 10:11 PM
[QUOTE=jack frost;140243] In Yorkshire we invented the fart.... Being unabled to measure it -see it or even prove it existed, was difficult/QUOTE]

I'm afraid you are confused again Jack, that's not a fart. It's a quark.....
God knows what they were eating in Yorkshire....:rolleyes:

The fart (naturally a Scots invention) is the elimentary note achieved and sustained by the bagpipes....:)

charmc
05-16-2007, 02:17 AM
Also knowing when one would come was some what of a surprise.

???? Sounds like you're changing the subject, there, jack ... :D :D :D

charmc
05-16-2007, 02:24 AM
The hang glider:

In 875 at an age of 65 years, Ibn Firnas built his own hang glider, and launched himself from a mountain. The flight was largely successful, and was widely observed by a crowd that he had invited. However, the landing was bad. He injured his back, and left critics saying he hadn't taken proper account of the way birds pull up into a stall, and land on their tails. He'd provided neither a tail, nor means for such a maneuver. He died twelve years later.

"Ibn Firnas was the first man in history to make a scientific attempt at flying."
—Philip Hitti, History of the Arabs.
As westerners teach their children about the Wright Brothers, the Islamic countries tell theirs about Ibn Firnas, a thousand years before the Wrights—though his flight was not powered. The Libyans produced a postage stamp honoring him. The Iraqis built a statue in his memory on the way to Baghdad International Airport, and the Ibn Firnas Airport to the north of Baghdad is named for him.

Ibn Firnas crater on the Moon is also named in his honor."
(J. Vernet, 'Abbas Ibn Firnas. Dictionary of Scientific Biography (C.C. Gilespie, ed.) Vol. I, New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1970-1980)

Bergalia
05-16-2007, 04:18 AM
[QUOTE=charmc;140289]The hang glider:
"Ibn Firnas was the first man in history to make a scientific attempt at flying."—Philip Hitti, History of the Arabs. QUOTE]

I see there are still doubters out there. It was of course that Highland lad Ian (misspelled in translation) McFirnas to whom Philip Hitti refers....

But it raises the question of Daedalus and his lad....:confused:

lazeyjack
05-16-2007, 04:27 AM
the Scuts neer invented oul bonny laddies
Frinstance, this is wot influenced my life out of USA, Cummins Engines and the engine brake, , Trace invertors,(indestructable) sivin sux sivin(kiwi for 767) Spectra low press desal plants, Bill Gates low press geek. Louis, high press trumpet blower.

lazeyjack
05-16-2007, 04:27 AM
But then porridge beats grits!

PI Design
05-16-2007, 04:48 AM
But it raises the question of Daedalus and his lad....:confused:

Yup, my money is on Icarus, even if he did have a crash landing.

westlawn5554X
05-16-2007, 06:31 AM
I think I am slightly addicted to all this baby talk... :D

Poida
05-16-2007, 07:23 AM
THree kids were trying to outdo each other.

The first said, "Yeah you guys, you know airoplanes?"
The other guys said,"Yeah."

The first kid said, "Well my Dad invented them."

The second kid said, "Well did you know that my Dad invented the television."

"Wow," said the other two.

Not to be outdone, the third kid said, "Well, you've heard about AIDS, haven't you."

"Gee" said the other guys, "Did your Dad invent that?"

"No," he said, "but he is the national distributor."

kach22i
05-16-2007, 08:44 AM
The hang glider:

One of the current hovercraft designers on the west coast also "invented" the modern hang glider (triangle wing). Others have tried to take credit for his work but he has moved on to bigger things. Like most inventive people he has had more than one good idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_flexible_wing_hang_gliding
Barry Palmer, 1961. First hang glider based on the Para Wing or Rogallo wing.

I think Barry Palmer was the first to power one to if I'm not mistaken.

As for the rest of this thread, thanks for the early morning laugh.:)

Bergalia
05-16-2007, 08:51 AM
Yup, my money is on Icarus, even if he did have a crash landing.


Aye, unfortunately that was before we Scots had invented the wheel.....;)

PI Design
05-16-2007, 08:55 AM
Aye, unfortunately that was before we Scots had invented the wheel.....;)

The Scots invent everything because its always too wet and cold to play outside. :rolleyes: I guess that's why the McWrights invented the plane - so you could emigrate to Oz!

Bergalia
05-16-2007, 07:56 PM
I guess that's why the McWrights invented the plane - so you could emigrate to Oz!

And who do you think invented Australia ? It's a Gaelic word meaning "Land as far away from the English as is possible to get...":)

lazeyjack
05-16-2007, 08:02 PM
tell you one thing, there is a new language evolving here, I can barely understand my sons, and sometimes can not understand a word the radio announcer utters, and as for those semi, literate league players!!
Sometimes I ask my foreign Eng speaking friends if they understand Australian English, and they say"not a word"

Bergalia
05-18-2007, 10:11 AM
[QUOTE=lazeyjack;140446...Sometimes I ask my foreign Eng speaking friends if they understand Australian English, and they say"not a word"[/QUOTE]

Strewthblue. Crackatinny 'n she'llberight...(meanwhile, just propel a further diminutive marine crustacia towards the alfresco culinary appliance...)

Bergalia
05-18-2007, 10:37 AM
...BUT did you know, that ole Pute has the biggest Amphibian aircraft? If you can find pics of this , please do...

Choice of two Stu: (1) - still under construction at the shipyard Volga, on the outskirts of Nizhni Novgorod. The construction process is top secret – the new aircraft does not have any analogues in the world and it is already considered to be an aircraft of the new generation. The technical parameters of the plane are unique; the cost of the project is some $90 million. It will be called Spasatel (Rescuer).

(2) The A-40 "Albatros" amphibious anti-submarine patrol aircraft developed by G.M. Beriev design bureau. It made it's maiden flight in December 1986 and entered service in limited numbers in 1990.
US intelligence in 1988 designated it as "Mermaid."
"Mermaid" carries a range of armament in it's internal weapons bay placed in the rear part of the fuselage, and is powered with two "Aviadvigatel" D-30KPV turbojets and two RKMB RD-60K booster turbojets placed over the wing. Booster engines are located beneath the main engines. "Mermaid" has a flying range with maximum fuel in 5 500 kilometers and with maximum payload - in 4100. Aircraft is completed with an in-flight refueling system. "Mermaid's" flight crew consists from two pilots, flight engineer, radio operator, navigator and three observers.

kach22i
05-18-2007, 10:45 AM
Spasatel
http://www.se-technology.com/wig/html/main.php?open=showcraft&code=&craft=27
After the accident of the Komsomolets nuclear submarine near Norway it was decided to transform the second, partly finished, Lun into a Search and Rescue (SAR) Ekranoplan. In 1990 and 1991 the Lun was used as a testbed for the Spasatel. Apart from the interior the Spasatel is currently finished and is waiting in a factory in Nizhny Novgorod for some money to finish it.

The Spasatel is designed to locate and rescue people at sea from ships, aircraft or oil rigs and platforms. It can transport up to 150 people, but it can hold up to 500 rescued people.

http://www.ikarus342000.com/VOLGA2page4.htm
http://www.ikarus342000.com/spasatel.jpg

http://www.ussr-airspace.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=5
http://www.ussr-airspace.com/catalog/images/al/49/04153334.jpg
http://www.ussr-airspace.com/catalog/images/al/49/04153348.jpg
http://www.ussr-airspace.com/catalog/images/al/49/04153359.jpg

Bergalia
05-18-2007, 10:57 AM
Thanks Kach - that'll really confuse Stu. Good additional material on his query. I love the note in the first pic: "The Albatros can now be ordered...." I'm having two - how about you ?:)

safewalrus
05-18-2007, 05:55 PM
Heres ten cents, go 'phone somebody who gives a 5h1t!

westlawn5554X
05-18-2007, 10:53 PM
And who do you think invented Australia ? It's a Gaelic word meaning "Land as far away from the English as is possible to get...":)

Australia in Ambon Indonesia meaning "Oh I have seen it..." It is a miss intrepreted name... I think.:)

JohnBeardsley
10-11-2010, 07:51 PM
I know this is a very old stream, but I'll update the link for info on Mel Beardsley, now at:
http://www.yatesriomar.com/acv/acv.htm
Also, any experienced naval architects' help is invited for my own canal-boat/yacht design at that Website. Thanks!

The_Escape_Plan
10-12-2010, 11:14 PM
http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/vinci.php

Raggi_Thor
10-13-2010, 12:43 PM
We use to say that a Norwegian invented the cheese slicer (as we know it), but the English Wiki says:

Cheese slicers have been in use throughout Europe and the Mediterranean for centuries[citation needed], although a patented version was invented in 1925 by Thor Bjørklund, a carpenter from the city of Lillehammer, Norway. The cheese slicer's mass production started in 1927. The design was based on the carpenter's plane.

This style of slicer is very common in the Nordic countries, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, France, and Switzerland. The success of the cheese slicer in these countries is based on the fact that cheese is eaten mainly sliced, on bread and that the most traditional cheese varieties in these countries are hard enough to be sliced.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6d/Osthyvel_20050723_001.jpg/800px-Osthyvel_20050723_001.jpg

Raggi_Thor
10-13-2010, 12:46 PM
A Norwegian myth (again, we think we are sooo clever!):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_clip
A Norwegian, Johan Vaaler (1866–1910), has erroneously been identified as the inventor of the paper clip. He was granted patents in Germany[13] and in the United States[14] (1901) for a paper clip of similar design, but less functional and practical, because it lacked the last turn of the wire. Vaaler probably did not know that a better product was already on the market, although not yet in Norway. His version was never manufactured and never marketed, because the superior Gem was already available.

Long after Vaaler's death his countrymen created a national myth based on the false assumption that the paper clip was invented by an unrecognised Norwegian genius. Norwegian dictionaries since the 1950s have mentioned Vaaler as the inventor of the paper clip,[15] and that myth later found its way into international dictionaries and much of the international literature on paper clips.

Raggi_Thor
10-13-2010, 12:50 PM
Rottefella (rat trap) ski bindings:

The original "rat trap" toe binding was invented by Bror With in 1927, and was the standard cross country binding for over 50 years until it was replaced by the NNN binding.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/2424935525_dcdd35579e.jpg

Raggi_Thor
10-13-2010, 12:53 PM
Explosive harpoons, Sven Foyn, 1870


In 1870, a Norwegian man named Svend Foyn successfully patented and pioneered the exploding harpoon and gun based on Erik Eriksen's idea and design. Together with the steam-powered whale catcher, this development ushered in the modern age of commercial whaling. Euro-American whalers were now equipped to hunt faster and more powerful species, such as the rorquals. Because rorquals sank when they died, later versions of the exploding harpoon injected air into the carcass to keep it afloat.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Whaling_harpoon.jpg/220px-Whaling_harpoon.jpg

Raggi_Thor
10-13-2010, 12:56 PM
Wiki:

The first aerosol spray can was invented in Oslo in November 23, 1926 by Erik Rotheim, a Norwegian chemical engineer.[1] The patent was sold to a US company for 100,000 Norwegian kroner.[2] The Norwegian Post Office celebrated the invention by issuing a stamp in 1998.

Ike
10-13-2010, 11:03 PM
Try this
The History of Aviation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_history

Just about every country or nationality makes claims to this, for instance the French claim

"In 1856, Frenchman Jean-Marie Le Bris made the first flight higher than his point of departure, by having his glider "L'Albatros artificiel" pulled by a horse on a beach. He reportedly achieved a height of 100 meters, over a distance of 200 meters."

People have been jumping off of towers, hills and mountain tops for centuries with all kinds of contraptions.

I also vote for Icarus, but then the Pterodactyl beat us to it by several million years.

Leo Lazauskas
10-14-2010, 01:02 AM
In the 15th century, Kiev was home to a huge industry producing religious icons for the Russian nobility.
At the end of every month, a bullock wagon was filled with the completed paintings and taken to Moscow.
The paintings were in such high demand that one family began using a series of horse-back riders to move them
to Moscow overnight. It is for this reason that Ukrainians claim that TV was invented, not by Logie Baird, but
by the family Televidenko.

Raggi_Thor
10-14-2010, 04:24 AM
Hmm, sorry if i misunderstood, this is mostly about aviation I guess..

WickedGood
10-14-2010, 09:02 AM
http://bighugelabs.com/output/motivatoredad40e5984e84969b5a9555f44cf5b5e2a66032.jpg

apex1
10-14-2010, 10:28 AM
Try this
The History of Aviation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_history

and take care that half of the info is wrong........

Just about every country or nationality makes claims to this, for instance the French claim
"In 1856, Frenchman Jean-Marie Le Bris made the first flight higher than his point of departure, by having his glider "L'Albatros artificiel" pulled by a horse on a beach. He reportedly achieved a height of 100 meters, over a distance of 200 meters."

That was a Kite flight, nothing else!

People have been jumping off of towers, hills and mountain tops for centuries with all kinds of contraptions.
I also vote for Icarus, but then the Pterodactyl beat us to it by several million years.

Karl Jatho was the first to conduct several manned and controlled flights under motor. All officially documented and photographed. And he started without the assistance of a catapult, like the Wrights did! Although his flights were much longer, higher and further engineered than the Wrights catapult crashes, he thought he failed! He was not satisfied with these short "jumps" and gave up.
In 2004 a replica, buit to the original plans and with the original materials has proven the historical correctness.

Regards
Richard

watchkeeper
10-18-2010, 12:37 AM
In May 1903 a south island New Zealand farmer/inventor Richard Pearce living in Timaru made the first of several power take offs and 100mt flights watched by local townspeople and photographed but not officially recorded, one year before Wright bros launched their powered glider. His aircraft built of bamboo had ailerons, a centre cockpit, a wheeled under carriage plus his own design/built twin horizontal opposed air cooled engine and 2 blade tin propeller.
He regularly corresponded with Popular Mechanics and shared his work with the Wright bros. While WB made some 400 glider take off flights they never made a powered take off as did Richard Pearce and other aviators.
In 1913 Richard Pearce designed and built a tilt engine (radial) vertical take off aircraft that could switch to forward flight. The plane still exists on display at MOTAP in Auckland. Richard Peace was eccentric loner, never sought recognition or money for his many inventions. He died 1963 in a Christchurch aged nursing home.

kach22i
10-20-2010, 07:57 AM
Hmm, sorry if i misunderstood, this is mostly about aviation I guess..
It's about anything you want it to.

Boats even.:p

dskira
10-20-2010, 07:00 PM
Nothing was invented, everything was there to grab when the moment came.
Daniel

masrapido
10-23-2010, 12:33 AM
Nothing was invented, everything was there to grab when the moment came.
Daniel

This deserves the points, but the system wouldn't let me unless I give poits to at least ten other people...

How is your boat progressing? Hope well. Just don't try and fix the wings on it.

: )

dskira
10-23-2010, 08:43 PM
This deserves the points, but the system wouldn't let me unless I give poits to at least ten other people...

How is your boat progressing? Hope well. Just don't try and fix the wings on it.

: )

Long time no see. thanks for the point, I take it as done. don't bother.
Take a look at my thread under:
Wooden Boat Building and Restoration
Then:Building the houseboat.
Come aboard and give me your thoughts, always appreciated.
Daniel

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