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jdodsonpa
09-18-2006, 10:18 AM
I am looking for some information about the Herreshoff 28 Ketch. I am considering buying one that is in definite need of restoration. Since I am not an old hand with lots of experience, it would be helpful to know if there are any readers who have experience. It is quite a project to consider without some idea of the plans and specs on the boat.

The boat is supposedly built in the late 60's. It has a Yanmar Diesel. The engine has been dis-assembled in place. The wiring harness is detached. A lot of the wood work needs restoration. The cockpit needs rebuilding. I know it sounds like a lost cause. And there is no doubt the project is not just one weekends worth of effort. But I believe the boat is a sound vessel and worthy of a better life.

If you can point me to some resources on line or other threads, I would appreciate it.

By the way, I have sold my IONA 23'

Thanks

Jeff

wet feet
09-18-2006, 04:20 PM
I think you would do well to go to the Woodenboat forum.A very useful resource if you keep out of the political issues that occasionally surface.

Gilbert
09-19-2006, 01:07 AM
Hereshoff's SENSIBLE CRUISING DESIGNS has a section which I believe contains all the information that was included in the original articles in the RUDDER magazine series.

jdodsonpa
09-19-2006, 01:49 AM
Thanks to "Wet Feet" and "Gilbert" for responding to my thread. Pardon the "tenderfoot" question, but where would I find the woodenboat forum and is the Herreshoff SENSIBLE CRUISING DESIGNS a book, magazine, website?

I will try to find these on my own, but would appreciate some more direction if possible.

I will continue to post on this thread to keep it current. Thanks again.

Gilbert
09-19-2006, 01:58 AM
SENSIBLE CRUISING DESIGNS is a book. Snoop around, maybe eBay or Amazon or????

jdodsonpa
09-19-2006, 02:03 AM
Wow. Thanks for the quick reply.

Would you like to see some pictures of this "project"?

Gilbert
09-19-2006, 02:16 AM
Why not? Visual aids are always welcome here. And the H28 is a very pretty boat.

jdodsonpa
09-19-2006, 02:32 AM
I posted on my page. Not sure how you view it. But I would be happy to email you some if you want.

jdodsonpa
09-19-2006, 02:37 AM
I posted some pictures of my former sloop IONA 23' and the latest interest, the Herreshoff 28 on this page:<br>
<a href="http://community.webshots.com/user/chimneyrocks?action=favoritePhotos">
http://community.webshots.com/user/chimneyrocks?action=favoritePhotos
</a>
<br>
on Webshots. Check it out. On the home page, choose the pull down menu "my shots" and then choose "album". The "boat" one has the pictures on the second page. BTW, DreamWeaver was a boat I almost bought two years ago.

Gilbert
09-19-2006, 02:42 AM
Why not post them here by attaching them to your next post. You never know who might spot them and have a helpful suggestion for you. It is best if they are not really large. Really large pictures make it so text and everything has a wider page which requires scrolling back and forth making it tedious to read. I'll be looking for them. Thanks.

Gilbert
09-19-2006, 02:45 AM
I see you have a link. That should do it, Thanks.

an2reir
09-19-2006, 07:05 AM
We just completed a total re-build and restauration of 1963 Camper&nicholsons Rocquette.
First thing you may be willing to undertake: get boat out of water and thoroughly surveyed.

jdodsonpa
09-19-2006, 10:22 PM
I hear you about getting the boat out of the water. Oh, if I only had a backyard..... But, alas, I live in a townhouse. I have been checking Craig'sList for a trailer that would hold a boat with a deep keel. If you know of any for sale in the LA area, let me know.

Otherwise, hauling the boat out to have it surveyed would cost about $800. I'm not sure if I can do that. But better safe than sorry.

an2reir
09-19-2006, 11:56 PM
you may build a wooden cradle for the boat.are you planning to do the restoration yourself?
a survey has to be carried out by a pro , to allow an estimate of work&money boat needs.
by the way she's looking chances are lower area framing and planking needs replacing.
send me pics of inside and outside hull out of water and i'll eventually help.

here's the restoration we just completed
http://www.yacht.ro/frame.php?lang=en&linc=race

PAR
09-20-2006, 12:36 AM
You should have the boat surveyed before you do anything else. The current owner may be helpful in this, but often times, knows what they aren't telling you and are just what the problem to go away.

The boat will need to be on the hard and the yard can put her in the slings for the survey. Find a well respected wooden boat surveyor in your area and check with the yard and insurance companies to get a feel on his reputation.

It's much like buying a "fix it upper" house. Unless you have a great deal of experience looking at worn out houses, you need a pro to come in and make an evaluation, so you can make an educated decision. Yes, it will cost you money, but a lot less then buying wreck that you wish you had performed a survey on before purchasing.

jdodsonpa
09-20-2006, 01:11 AM
Thanks for the words of wisdom.... And I could not agree more. It is clear that there is a lot of "up front work" needed before any decision to buy is made. The person who owns the boat at present has considered my initial offer to become a partner, rather than an outright purchaser. I am inclined to think that may be a good idea in as much as he already has a good deal of sweat equity in the boat and should therefore be committed to seeing the project through. He also needs a willing partner who wants to also invest some sweat equity in the project. My initial sense is this could be a good way to have some fun working on a really neat boat, learning a lot about the process, sharing the expenses and slip fees, and maybe, just maybe, actually seeing this thing through to a happy finish and some really great local sailing.

Keep passing on those tips and words of wisdom, encouragement or warning. All thoughts are welcome.

I will post more photos as we progress. Certainly the first step is getting it hauled. That ought to be a picture taking adventure in itself.

PAR
09-20-2006, 09:14 PM
If he can't afford to have an H-28 hauled, he should sell the boat. This is an annual event and part of yacht ownership. Even in warm climates like yours and mine, the boat should have yearly haul outs to inspect the planking, fittings, seams, etc.

jdodsonpa
09-29-2006, 02:05 AM
Time flies when you are searching for answers. I do appreciate the couple of hints I got on the Herreshoff. But I am looking for more information all the time. Anyone else out there have input, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

jdodsonpa
10-03-2006, 12:41 AM
Thanks for the recent posts and advice. I will be looking for a surveyor with wooden boat experience. And I will post to this thread from time to time.

jdodsonpa
10-19-2006, 10:46 PM
Time flies. Haven't made much progress on whether or not to move forward on this boat. So far, I thing a sweat equity partnership is in order to see how serious the owner is in restoring the boat. The future of the project is yet to unfold. If you have any information, please feel free to share.

Thanks

Jeff

jdodsonpa
11-07-2006, 10:11 AM
It's been awhile since I've worked on the boat. Still need the survey done and getting her to the hard deck in the yard. This past weekend we inventoried her sails and found a very serviceable main and mizzen. The jib seems in good shape too. And there are a number of other sails that seem to be from other vessels. Some could be adapted for use as Genoa's or storm jibs. The bilge is remaining dry. I think that is a good sign. The interior has a lot of work needed just to remove the previous owners "Stuff" that makes it look junky. So now we start the serious discussion after the survey as to whether or not this restore is even possible within the limits of our budget. She is a pretty lady under all that struggle. Hope to set her free again.

thanks for looking in on us from time to time.

Jeff

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