SmithCraft64
09-04-2006, 11:53 AM
May he rest in peace. He was a colorful character. And will be missed by many.
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Joe6
09-04-2006, 12:23 PM
Name sounded familiar so I yahoo'd it.
Crikey! This sucks!
He certainly will be missed. I have enjoyed the "Crocodile Hunter" for years, great personality!
R.I.P.
Joe
Crikey! This sucks!
He certainly will be missed. I have enjoyed the "Crocodile Hunter" for years, great personality!
R.I.P.
Joe
hansp77
09-04-2006, 08:48 PM
Who ever heard of a stingray barb through the heart?
Totally surreal.
old words- but he died doing what he loved,
and if it did have to be now, it is probably more fitting that it happened in this way rather than choking on a chicken bone or something.
Still- totally surreal.
Last night they showed a stingray barb on the news- about six inches long, really sharp thin and strong with serations and coverered in venom/toxin- a perfect blade. Apparantly boat hulls have been stabbed clean through by these. The toxin intself acts upon the heart, but it seems that the wound may have been the near-instantanous cause of death.
Missed by many but most of all his two kids and wife.
Totally surreal.
old words- but he died doing what he loved,
and if it did have to be now, it is probably more fitting that it happened in this way rather than choking on a chicken bone or something.
Still- totally surreal.
Last night they showed a stingray barb on the news- about six inches long, really sharp thin and strong with serations and coverered in venom/toxin- a perfect blade. Apparantly boat hulls have been stabbed clean through by these. The toxin intself acts upon the heart, but it seems that the wound may have been the near-instantanous cause of death.
Missed by many but most of all his two kids and wife.
Ari
09-04-2006, 10:21 PM
Who ever heard of a stingray barb through the heart?
Totally surreal.
Still- totally surreal.
Last night they showed a stingray barb on the news- about six inches long, really sharp thin and strong with serations and coverered in venom/toxin- a perfect blade. Apparantly boat hulls have been stabbed clean through by these. The toxin intself acts upon the heart, but it seems that the wound may have been the near-instantanous cause of death.
Missed by many but most of all his two kids and wife.
Base on my experience with rays..only one type have the sting at the end of the whip like tail..and this is the only type known to fisherman at my place to attack with the whip when hooked up and brought alongside, the others have double sting at the base of the tail close to the body.My own brother in law fainted after the sting pierce through his palm, 6 inches long sting.We heard about Steeve fatal incident last night on the news.He have very big group of followers in Malaysia.My family for sure will miss him.
May Steve 'the crocodile hunter' rest in peace.Amen
Totally surreal.
Still- totally surreal.
Last night they showed a stingray barb on the news- about six inches long, really sharp thin and strong with serations and coverered in venom/toxin- a perfect blade. Apparantly boat hulls have been stabbed clean through by these. The toxin intself acts upon the heart, but it seems that the wound may have been the near-instantanous cause of death.
Missed by many but most of all his two kids and wife.
Base on my experience with rays..only one type have the sting at the end of the whip like tail..and this is the only type known to fisherman at my place to attack with the whip when hooked up and brought alongside, the others have double sting at the base of the tail close to the body.My own brother in law fainted after the sting pierce through his palm, 6 inches long sting.We heard about Steeve fatal incident last night on the news.He have very big group of followers in Malaysia.My family for sure will miss him.
May Steve 'the crocodile hunter' rest in peace.Amen
Figgy
09-05-2006, 02:11 AM
The man died doing what he loved. I hope I'm that lucky.
R.I.P. Steve Irwin, my thought are with your family.
R.I.P. Steve Irwin, my thought are with your family.
antonfourie
09-05-2006, 08:27 AM
R.I.P Mr Crocodile Hunter
bilgeboy
09-05-2006, 11:19 PM
Loved your enthusiasm, Steve, your family is in my prayers. The world has lost a great environmental advocate.
I have been thinking alot about what happened. I stepped on a stingray in the Baha Peninsula of Mexico many years ago, and found the gradual onset of excruciating pain to be terrifying. I thought I might die on that beach as the cramping ascended my leg. It took me reading through a tourist guide while chugging rum to figure it out. If it has that effect on skeletal muscle, it might very well have the same effect on cardiac muscle as they are both striated, and pretty similar.
From what I hear on the news, the barb went into his heart directly, and they believe this direct trauma killed him. Thats a very different scenario than an envenomation, though. For the barb to puncture myocardium, it would have to first pass through a slippery, tough sac around the the heart called the "peri"cardium. Unfortunately, blood leaking from a punctured heart will fill the layer between the outside of the heart and the pericardium, and begin to compress the heart from the outside. This happens not too infrequently in chest trauma and is called a pericardial "tamponade". It can be deadly fast if you don't have a surgeon or ED doc handIy. I am guessing that this is what happened.
I don't mean to detract from the loss at all, but I think Steve himself would have been amazed at the physiology. He was curious and loved biology. I hope I have only honored him by thinking about how his death occured.
Mike
I have been thinking alot about what happened. I stepped on a stingray in the Baha Peninsula of Mexico many years ago, and found the gradual onset of excruciating pain to be terrifying. I thought I might die on that beach as the cramping ascended my leg. It took me reading through a tourist guide while chugging rum to figure it out. If it has that effect on skeletal muscle, it might very well have the same effect on cardiac muscle as they are both striated, and pretty similar.
From what I hear on the news, the barb went into his heart directly, and they believe this direct trauma killed him. Thats a very different scenario than an envenomation, though. For the barb to puncture myocardium, it would have to first pass through a slippery, tough sac around the the heart called the "peri"cardium. Unfortunately, blood leaking from a punctured heart will fill the layer between the outside of the heart and the pericardium, and begin to compress the heart from the outside. This happens not too infrequently in chest trauma and is called a pericardial "tamponade". It can be deadly fast if you don't have a surgeon or ED doc handIy. I am guessing that this is what happened.
I don't mean to detract from the loss at all, but I think Steve himself would have been amazed at the physiology. He was curious and loved biology. I hope I have only honored him by thinking about how his death occured.
Mike
hansp77
09-06-2006, 02:06 AM
Thanks Mike,
I found that rather interesting.
About honoring him, I think you could honor him even a little more if you get down real low to the computer screen while performing overdone facial exressions and dramatic hand movements to describe the prescise details of barb entering the heart...
no doubt he would do the same.
Apparantly the video footage of the incident shows him swimming over the ray, getting struck, and then quickly pulling the barb out of his chest- and then immeadiatly loosing consiousness (and probably dying).
It is quite amazing the media focus on Steve's death and life. In Australia he was not actually that famous. Nothing at least in comparison to his fame in America and elsewhere internationally.
In a way he was regarded a bit of a joke here- as a caricature of himself. There was something in his character that repelled the Australian mainstream, probably something that they repelled inside themselves. Irwin himself called it his "cringe factor".
The idea is that there is a bit of him in everyone of us, and as Australians (majority being urban-ites) we repress this...
In the papers today, we have had the complete spectrum of praise, greiving and celbration of Irwin, to critiscism and condemnation of the man and his practices, and also disgust at the media attention his death is recieving.
Even Germain Greer (the famed feminist writer of "the female Eunuch") did an article today critiscising him rather brutally.
In discounting his self-proclaimed environmentalism, Greer claims "the Crocodile Hunter was an entertainer, a 21'st century version of a lion-tamer, but with crocodiles."
"there was no habitat, no matter how fragile or finely balanced, that Irwin hesitated to barge into, trumpeting his wonder and amazement."
Anyway,
the media have hardly finished with this one yet...
Hopefully his family is managing to ignore the current mud-fight over his legacy.
I found that rather interesting.
About honoring him, I think you could honor him even a little more if you get down real low to the computer screen while performing overdone facial exressions and dramatic hand movements to describe the prescise details of barb entering the heart...
no doubt he would do the same.
Apparantly the video footage of the incident shows him swimming over the ray, getting struck, and then quickly pulling the barb out of his chest- and then immeadiatly loosing consiousness (and probably dying).
It is quite amazing the media focus on Steve's death and life. In Australia he was not actually that famous. Nothing at least in comparison to his fame in America and elsewhere internationally.
In a way he was regarded a bit of a joke here- as a caricature of himself. There was something in his character that repelled the Australian mainstream, probably something that they repelled inside themselves. Irwin himself called it his "cringe factor".
The idea is that there is a bit of him in everyone of us, and as Australians (majority being urban-ites) we repress this...
In the papers today, we have had the complete spectrum of praise, greiving and celbration of Irwin, to critiscism and condemnation of the man and his practices, and also disgust at the media attention his death is recieving.
Even Germain Greer (the famed feminist writer of "the female Eunuch") did an article today critiscising him rather brutally.
In discounting his self-proclaimed environmentalism, Greer claims "the Crocodile Hunter was an entertainer, a 21'st century version of a lion-tamer, but with crocodiles."
"there was no habitat, no matter how fragile or finely balanced, that Irwin hesitated to barge into, trumpeting his wonder and amazement."
Anyway,
the media have hardly finished with this one yet...
Hopefully his family is managing to ignore the current mud-fight over his legacy.
Frosty
09-06-2006, 08:21 AM
I just heard on the telly that he is being given a state funeral. His Father apparantly said not to as he was just a normal bloke. I think they are both wrong.
stonebreaker
09-06-2006, 10:10 AM
In a way he was regarded a bit of a joke here- as a caricature of himself. There was something in his character that repelled the Australian mainstream, probably something that they repelled inside themselves. Irwin himself called it his "cringe factor".
The idea is that there is a bit of him in everyone of us, and as Australians (majority being urban-ites) we repress this...
In the papers today, we have had the complete spectrum of praise, greiving and celbration of Irwin, to critiscism and condemnation of the man and his practices, and also disgust at the media attention his death is recieving.
Even Germain Greer (the famed feminist writer of "the female Eunuch") did an article today critiscising him rather brutally.
In discounting his self-proclaimed environmentalism, Greer claims "the Crocodile Hunter was an entertainer, a 21'st century version of a lion-tamer, but with crocodiles."
"there was no habitat, no matter how fragile or finely balanced, that Irwin hesitated to barge into, trumpeting his wonder and amazement."
Anyway,
the media have hardly finished with this one yet...
Hopefully his family is managing to ignore the current mud-fight over his legacy.
I never was much of a fan, but reading about the "cringe factor" actually makes me like him a little more. Being a displaced Texan, I get that sort of crap from my friends all the time. I've never worn cowboy boots in my life, but as soon as anyone finds out I'm from Texas, out comes the "Howdy, ya'll, yee-hah!" stuff. Especially from the Aussies.:D
I remember one episode where he went looking for rattlesnakes in the Shenandoah mountains. My kids dragged me to watch because he was on the same mountain we always went to. He was squatted down holding one rattler and going on in his usual way, when all of a sudden you hear another rattler start up and Steve just froze. I have to give him credit, he didn't say it out loud, but I saw him mouth the words before he looked down. The man didn't panic, either - his crew kept filming as he reached down between his legs and pulled that other rattler out and away from the -ahem- "sensitive area." You have to admire a guy who can keep his head when a 6 foot viper is poised to bite him in the nads.
As for that Greer gal, she couldn't write anything nice about him even if she wanted to. Irwin's about as macho as you can get, which, to a feminist, is like garlic to a vampire. One word of admiration from her and she's negated her whole existence. People like that, who base their beliefs on emotions rather than logical thinking, are to be dismissed out of hand anyway.
The idea is that there is a bit of him in everyone of us, and as Australians (majority being urban-ites) we repress this...
In the papers today, we have had the complete spectrum of praise, greiving and celbration of Irwin, to critiscism and condemnation of the man and his practices, and also disgust at the media attention his death is recieving.
Even Germain Greer (the famed feminist writer of "the female Eunuch") did an article today critiscising him rather brutally.
In discounting his self-proclaimed environmentalism, Greer claims "the Crocodile Hunter was an entertainer, a 21'st century version of a lion-tamer, but with crocodiles."
"there was no habitat, no matter how fragile or finely balanced, that Irwin hesitated to barge into, trumpeting his wonder and amazement."
Anyway,
the media have hardly finished with this one yet...
Hopefully his family is managing to ignore the current mud-fight over his legacy.
I never was much of a fan, but reading about the "cringe factor" actually makes me like him a little more. Being a displaced Texan, I get that sort of crap from my friends all the time. I've never worn cowboy boots in my life, but as soon as anyone finds out I'm from Texas, out comes the "Howdy, ya'll, yee-hah!" stuff. Especially from the Aussies.:D
I remember one episode where he went looking for rattlesnakes in the Shenandoah mountains. My kids dragged me to watch because he was on the same mountain we always went to. He was squatted down holding one rattler and going on in his usual way, when all of a sudden you hear another rattler start up and Steve just froze. I have to give him credit, he didn't say it out loud, but I saw him mouth the words before he looked down. The man didn't panic, either - his crew kept filming as he reached down between his legs and pulled that other rattler out and away from the -ahem- "sensitive area." You have to admire a guy who can keep his head when a 6 foot viper is poised to bite him in the nads.
As for that Greer gal, she couldn't write anything nice about him even if she wanted to. Irwin's about as macho as you can get, which, to a feminist, is like garlic to a vampire. One word of admiration from her and she's negated her whole existence. People like that, who base their beliefs on emotions rather than logical thinking, are to be dismissed out of hand anyway.
Frosty
09-06-2006, 10:43 AM
I thought he was great. I would always watch his documentaries. He did what he loved and loved what he did , that was plain to see, his enthusiasm was refreshing.
I am deeply saddened by by his death. I assume that the- 'jump on the band wagon others'-- that try to emulate him will be (and there seems to be a few) ready to take his place.
To those I say beware,- to emulate him in life is competition but to emulate him after death could be construed as something completely different.
I am deeply saddened by by his death. I assume that the- 'jump on the band wagon others'-- that try to emulate him will be (and there seems to be a few) ready to take his place.
To those I say beware,- to emulate him in life is competition but to emulate him after death could be construed as something completely different.
Toot
09-06-2006, 01:08 PM
I thought he was great. I would always watch his documentaries. He did what he loved and loved what he did , that was plain to see, his enthusiasm was refreshing.
I am deeply saddened by by his death. I assume that the- 'jump on the band wagon others'-- that try to emulate him will be (and there seems to be a few) ready to take his place.
To those I say beware,- to emulate him in life is competition but to emulate him after death could be construed as something completely different.
True. There's another guy Jeff Corwin. How's this for freaky...
3 nights ago, I was talking on the phone with my girlfriend, shortly after midnight. We were actually discussing who was better- Steve Irwin or Jeff Corwin. I voted for Corwin, but it was a very close call. I loved Irwin's enthusiasm and his aussie-isms. What I liked even more was that he wasn't made-for-TV. It didn't seem to be a persona, he was genuine and truly excited. I couldn't imagine a TV exec saying, "We need a knowledgeable and adventurous naturalist who acts like this..." He was who he was, and it was endearing. You don't see a lot of guys like that on television anymore.
By contrast, Corwin seems more of a made-for-tv type of cleancut personality. However, I also said that Corwin seemed to convey a little more respect for the animals... Not that Irwin wasn't respectful, but Corwin seemed to convey it, where Irwin sometimes looked like a circus sideshow.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather watch Irwin than Corwin. However, I could see Irwin sending a really bad message to over-imaginative young boys.
Anyway, the odd thing was, within a few hours of talking about this with my girlfriend, he was dead.
I am deeply saddened by by his death. I assume that the- 'jump on the band wagon others'-- that try to emulate him will be (and there seems to be a few) ready to take his place.
To those I say beware,- to emulate him in life is competition but to emulate him after death could be construed as something completely different.
True. There's another guy Jeff Corwin. How's this for freaky...
3 nights ago, I was talking on the phone with my girlfriend, shortly after midnight. We were actually discussing who was better- Steve Irwin or Jeff Corwin. I voted for Corwin, but it was a very close call. I loved Irwin's enthusiasm and his aussie-isms. What I liked even more was that he wasn't made-for-TV. It didn't seem to be a persona, he was genuine and truly excited. I couldn't imagine a TV exec saying, "We need a knowledgeable and adventurous naturalist who acts like this..." He was who he was, and it was endearing. You don't see a lot of guys like that on television anymore.
By contrast, Corwin seems more of a made-for-tv type of cleancut personality. However, I also said that Corwin seemed to convey a little more respect for the animals... Not that Irwin wasn't respectful, but Corwin seemed to convey it, where Irwin sometimes looked like a circus sideshow.
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather watch Irwin than Corwin. However, I could see Irwin sending a really bad message to over-imaginative young boys.
Anyway, the odd thing was, within a few hours of talking about this with my girlfriend, he was dead.
SamSam
09-13-2006, 04:24 PM
However, I could see Irwin sending a really bad message to over-imaginative young boys.
Saw him the other night on Animal Planet, he was waist deep in a muddy 12' diameter waterhole herding a submerged 8' crocodile into a net using a stick and his feet. Some of those nature guys are almost too spooky to watch.
South Park had him in an episode and sort of pegged him. He's got a huge croc in a headlock and then he says in his Aussie accent,"Now I'll jamb my thumb up his butt, that ought to piss him off!". He was unique. Sam
Saw him the other night on Animal Planet, he was waist deep in a muddy 12' diameter waterhole herding a submerged 8' crocodile into a net using a stick and his feet. Some of those nature guys are almost too spooky to watch.
South Park had him in an episode and sort of pegged him. He's got a huge croc in a headlock and then he says in his Aussie accent,"Now I'll jamb my thumb up his butt, that ought to piss him off!". He was unique. Sam
Frosty
09-13-2006, 09:58 PM
I read in the BBc (so it must be true) that some dopy Ausies are out killing Stingrays now in revenge for Steve.
Mind boggling isnt it.
Mind boggling isnt it.
Ari
09-14-2006, 02:15 AM
Shown on Malaysia TV3 last night.About ten rays actually.Kinda revenge ?
Yes it is mind boggling.
Yes it is mind boggling.
safewalrus
09-17-2006, 10:04 AM
your'e going to mess with nasties your going to get bit, easy ain't it?
guess the revenge is from nature who got rid of a 'nutter'. Anybody who charges around tapping up crocs with a baby in his other arm needs his head examined - anyone who supports this kind of stuff does too! Remember that freaks!:mad:
guess the revenge is from nature who got rid of a 'nutter'. Anybody who charges around tapping up crocs with a baby in his other arm needs his head examined - anyone who supports this kind of stuff does too! Remember that freaks!:mad:
Frosty
09-18-2006, 04:07 AM
Mr Walrus Do you make comments like this to get a reaction out of people or do you mean it.
Calling people freaks because they watch Steve Erwin ( who by the way is becoming a national hero) is going to leave you isolated. Im sure there must have been occasions in the past that you thought ,--- "Hmm thats strange no one agrees with me? well heres another.
Calling people freaks because they watch Steve Erwin ( who by the way is becoming a national hero) is going to leave you isolated. Im sure there must have been occasions in the past that you thought ,--- "Hmm thats strange no one agrees with me? well heres another.
Toot
09-18-2006, 04:31 AM
South Park had him in an episode and sort of pegged him. He's got a huge croc in a headlock and then he says in his Aussie accent,"Now I'll jamb my thumb up his butt, that ought to piss him off!".
Ha! I damn near spit coffee all over my computer screen... and this wasn't even the first time I read your post! Funny, funny stuff!!!
Ha! I damn near spit coffee all over my computer screen... and this wasn't even the first time I read your post! Funny, funny stuff!!!
SmithCraft64
09-18-2006, 05:50 PM
Mr Walrus Do you make comments like this to get a reaction out of people or do you mean it.
Calling people freaks because they watch Steve Erwin ( who by the way is becoming a national hero) is going to leave you isolated. Im sure there must have been occasions in the past that you thought ,--- "Hmm thats strange no one agrees with me? well heres another.
I'd like to hear your reply to jack frost. Did you make these comments for attention? Please explain.I don't know what else you could have gained by slamming Steve and his fans. I don't think you have all the facts about the incident with his son and the croc's. I don't want to start any trouble either it just couldn't be left "as is". signed, freak
Calling people freaks because they watch Steve Erwin ( who by the way is becoming a national hero) is going to leave you isolated. Im sure there must have been occasions in the past that you thought ,--- "Hmm thats strange no one agrees with me? well heres another.
I'd like to hear your reply to jack frost. Did you make these comments for attention? Please explain.I don't know what else you could have gained by slamming Steve and his fans. I don't think you have all the facts about the incident with his son and the croc's. I don't want to start any trouble either it just couldn't be left "as is". signed, freak
Frosty
09-22-2006, 10:13 PM
It has become obvious now that walruss posts on Fridays only. Have you noticed that ?
It is also obvious that he does not intend to reply to this one. He is playing dead. I have no trouble with that at all.
if I had said what he said I would do the same thing.
What he meant by his post will therefore be a mistery for ever. I personally try to keep away from the key board after a drink.
A lesson for us all there.
It is also obvious that he does not intend to reply to this one. He is playing dead. I have no trouble with that at all.
if I had said what he said I would do the same thing.
What he meant by his post will therefore be a mistery for ever. I personally try to keep away from the key board after a drink.
A lesson for us all there.
SmithCraft64
09-26-2006, 12:46 AM
One last farewell Mr.Irwin. I will miss you, your antics, wild entertainment, the animals that you brought to the attention of everyone around the world by putting yourself in harmsway. Gone but we will never forget you. God speed.
Gypsie
09-26-2006, 01:23 AM
I always thought that Steve was a "bit over the top" but through his death myself along with the rest of the world learnt about all the good he was doing. R.I.P mate
jimslade
09-28-2006, 06:04 PM
your'e going to mess with nasties your going to get bit, easy ain't it?
guess the revenge is from nature who got rid of a 'nutter'. Anybody who charges around tapping up crocs with a baby in his other arm needs his head examined - anyone who supports this kind of stuff does too! Remember that freaks!:mad: You have a problem .What happen to respect for the dead.
guess the revenge is from nature who got rid of a 'nutter'. Anybody who charges around tapping up crocs with a baby in his other arm needs his head examined - anyone who supports this kind of stuff does too! Remember that freaks!:mad: You have a problem .What happen to respect for the dead.
Frosty
09-29-2006, 12:43 AM
I will never ever go diving with out loads and loads of sun tan lotion rubbed well in, I guess poor ole Steve didnt have any on. It quite clearly says on the bottle 'to protect from harmfull rays'.
R.I.P Steve I thought you were great.
R.I.P Steve I thought you were great.
SmithCraft64
10-02-2006, 02:54 AM
There is no need in going any further with this thread good or bad comments lets let it rest. I love your humor though Jack don't stop with that. Just not on this thread please enough is enough. Lets get back to boats and the design of them. I promise this will be the last time posting on this thread for myself anyway. gooday SmithCraft64
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